Originally Posted by bio-chem

look kid your too damn young to screw with pro-hormones. use a shit load of food, protien supps, and a little creatine to get ready for football. if you dont your dick will fall off, you will stop growing and you will grow hairy palms.

Originally Posted by young d

firstly don't start this cycle till your 19-20! at 17 theres a high chance that you'll really fuck yourself up

to answer your questions your best running it with 4derm man, you can run it on its own but your cycle won't be a plesant (due to low libdo, lack of appitite.. etc)

6-oxo would be alright, nolva would be better

peace

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

Man there is NO reason to waste your money on 4Derm with such a mild cycle like 1-AD. Your libido won't be that low, and i never experienced appetite suppression while on 1-AD. Save the 4Derm for harsher shit like M1T.

Originally Posted by young d

i hear what your saying, but putting money issues aside for a moment.. i'd rather stack 1-ad with 4-ad than just run 1-ad straight, it might be mild compared to the likes of m1t but it is still suppressive and therefore the extra test in your system is gonna be beneficial, plus if you enjoy your sex then your gonna want the 4-ad for the libdo! i couldn't imagine losing my libdo, for some of us guys its VERY important - i'd say thats a pretty big reason right there!

peace

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

Man there is NO reason to waste your money on 4Derm with such a mild cycle like 1-AD. Your libido won't be that low, and i never experienced appetite suppression while on 1-AD. Save the 4Derm for harsher shit like M1T.

Originally Posted by Pepper

1-AD absolutely kills my libido.

I wouldn't touch the stuff without 4Derm.

Originally Posted by RCfootball87

I know it's good to run this with 4-AD to counteract the sides, but have any of you run 1-AD alone and how did it work out for you? And would 6-oxo be good for PCT

Originally Posted by RCfootball87

Thanks Y.D. Fuck the rest of you guys.

Originally Posted by PURE ICE

respect your elders little boy..

Originally Posted by PURE ICE

Listen to me you little shit, I didn't say I know more then anyone about anything, its just common sence...

I used to beat the shit outta punks like you on a daily basis...

my friend is 21 and I call him boy, I always do that, anybody smaller then me, younger then me, I call boy...

call me bitch, lol..

I wish you were from montreal, I would slaughter you in the street, I promise you that

Originally Posted by RCfootball87

Montreal! Oh shit! In that case I better get my guns out, there's some big time OG's hanging out up there in Canada huh? What's your crime rate up there, two murders a year? I guess if you beat up a "little shit" (way to be creative!) on a daily basis, the few you killed must've boosted it huh? That city's so clean you could eat dinner off the floors of the subway. Stop frontin, you're just another big dumbass who thinks he's a G cause he can handle a fistfight. Well guess what man, fist fights were 30 years ago, those days are over. Better watch yourself, even the city of waterfalls and CN towers must have a commanding respect.

Originally Posted by RCfootball87

That guy getting his popcorn read for the flame war was pretty funny though.

Originally Posted by Pepper

1-AD absolutely kills my libido.

I wouldn't touch the stuff without 4Derm.

Originally Posted by RCfootball87

So I suppose since your the rype old age of 23 (younger than two of my siblings...) you're the one to be calling me little boy? I would figure someone of your stature wouldn't need to hype himself up by fucking with a young buck to feel like a big man, but I guess maybe you don't have any self confidence? You're the kinda cat I would call 'dude' or 'bro' if I saw you on the street, not 'sir.' What makes me laugh is you probably know little, if anything, about pro-hormones/supplements that I do not, and for your ten posts, you act like you've made ten-thousand. It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog, so go get some high heels and a handbag, bitch.

Originally Posted by Curlingcadys

maybe reality is somebody else has some confidence issues looking to PH's 2 days after he gets his 1st pube?

Originally Posted by RCfootball87

That was about 5 years ago. When did you hit puberty dog?