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Posted by: M.J.H.

Today is my 3rd day of under 30g of carbs per day. And this is killing me! I can't manage to focus for shit, I am completely foggy-minded, lethargic, etc.

Any helpful hints? I weighed in at 243 lbs. and I know that a ketogenic diet will help me get down to 220 or so where I would like to weigh.

Just tough dealing with the diet.

Posted by: soxmuscle

why are you trying to lose massive amounts of weight?

Posted by: PreMier

Keto's arent good for you.. Do you not see the cycle you are constantly going through? Binge/diet/binge/diet etc. You should start eating balanced Mike. Diets the hardest part of the game, and if you cant get it down, then you wont go anywhere.

Posted by: LittleKid

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Originally Posted by MonStar

Today is my 3rd day of under 30g of carbs per day. And this is killing me! I can't manage to focus for shit, I am completely foggy-minded, lethargic, etc.

Any helpful hints? I weighed in at 243 lbs. and I know that a ketogenic diet will help me get down to 220 or so where I would like to weigh.

Just tough dealing with the diet.

Really nothing I can suggest, carbs are basically your energy, and from what I know and heard the first week of Atkins is the hardest because your really cutting down on carbs.

Posted by: min0 lee

I hate Atkins. It's a bad diet.

Posted by: Arnie's left nu

Why you on that Atkins crap bro...you should know better

Posted by: LittleKid

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

I hate Atkins. It's a bad diet.

I've heard from a few people that the first week their mouth tastes and smells like ass.

Posted by: Robert D.

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Originally Posted by MonStar

Any helpful hints?

yeah, stop doing this rediculous diet.

Posted by: nikegurl

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Originally Posted by LittleKid

I've heard from a few people that the first week their mouth tastes and smells like ass.

it's part of being in ketosis and as long as you're in ketosis it's likely to stay that way.

i'm in the "hate atkins" camp as well. you can drop weight quickly but you can also rebound damn fast as soon as you reintroduce carbs back into your diet plus all that fat makes me want to

Posted by: LittleKid

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Originally Posted by nikegurl

You can drop weight quickly, but some of it being muscle..

and why are you dieting anyways? your pics look great, your bench squat and deadlift look great to.

Posted by: M.J.H.

Wow, lots of quick responses. Thanks for all of the feedback guys.

Jake hit it right on the nail when he said that I go through this ridiculous cycle all the time of binge/diet/binge/diet. But honestly, the biggest problem is that I don't seem to have the determination to follow a clean diet. I always want to cheat. And not only just cheat, but binge excessively. I mean I hit 243 lbs. now. I have never weighed this much as far back as I can remember.

Ketogenic style dieting seems to be the quickest in terms of fat-loss. So that's the biggest reason I am going that route.

Posted by: min0 lee

My friend was on it, he lost weight but gained it all back and then some. The lazy fat slob looks worse now.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Ketogenic style dieting seems to be the quickest in terms of fat-loss. So that's the biggest reason I am going that route.

For some reason most people seem to gain more weight than they had before they started dieting.

Posted by: Pylon

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Originally Posted by MonStar

the biggest problem is that I don't seem to have the determination to follow a clean diet. I always want to cheat. And not only just cheat, but binge excessively.
Ketogenic style dieting seems to be the quickest in terms of fat-loss. So that's the biggest reason I am going that route.

OK, first, cutting the carbs out will kill your energy, so you shouldn't be suprised. I know a competitive bodybuilder who eats nothing but fish before a contest (and I mean nothing) and he is almost non-functional.

Second, Atkins, like most other diets, is mostly a way to get you to eat less calories. Yes, you can eat whole sticks of butter if you want, but you will tire of them eventually and lose your taste for them. After a few days, you will eat less or down 2 dozen Krispy Kremes, which ever comes first. (No offense to Dunkin Donuts, by the way.)

If willpower is the problem, crash dieting is not the answer. Fix the root cause, not the sympton. If your car was riding rough because it had a flat tire, you wouldn't look for a smoother road, right? You'd get the tire fixed. Stop looking at your food as a diet or a set of restrictions, and start looking at it as fuel for your machine. Garbage in, garbage out. No, not easy, but WAY better in the long run. (Trust me, I've been there...and am still working my way out of it.)

Posted by: Robert D.

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Originally Posted by MonStar

Wow, lots of quick responses. Thanks for all of the feedback guys.

Jake hit it right on the nail when he said that I go through this ridiculous cycle all the time of binge/diet/binge/diet. But honestly, the biggest problem is that I don't seem to have the determination to follow a clean diet. I always want to cheat. And not only just cheat, but binge excessively. I mean I hit 243 lbs. now. I have never weighed this much as far back as I can remember.

Ketogenic style dieting seems to be the quickest in terms of fat-loss. So that's the biggest reason I am going that route.

Sounds like you need to gain some discipline bro...we all like to eat junk food, but I keep it to one or two days per week, the rest of the time I eat clean.

Like someone else said, yeah you can drop the weight quickly, but it's not healthy, it's a terrible idea for an athlete because you need carbs for training, and chances are when you get off of it you will gain the weight back, and probably quickly.

Posted by: M.J.H.

Great post Pylon, and you too Rob.

I am tossing up in the air the idea of NHE. NHE for anyone that doesn't know is Natural Horomonal Enhancement---the book by Rob Faigin. The diet in a nutshell is:

Days 1-7 - No more than 20 grams of active carbs/day, high protein, moderate fat. Once you complete this you never have to do it again (unless you stray from the diet later down the road).

Days 8-9 - Same thing but you can have 30-60 grams of active carbs/day

Day 10 - Carb load day. Last 2 meals have at least 60 grams of active carbs each (Men) Women have at least 40 grams each meal. Each of the carb loads must not contain more than 20 grams of added protein or 20 grams of added fat, in order to enhance the absorbtion of glycogen. Up until the last two carb load meals have under 30 grams of active carbs along with high protein/moderate fat that day.

During my refeeds usually honestly I do them more binge style. As much low-fat food as I can possibly eat in an hour, and call it a night.

Now after this you cycle your carb load days would be every 3/4 days. So your next carb load day would be day 14, then 17 then 21, etc.. with all days in between mirroring days 8 and 9.

Posted by: calalily1972

There are no quick fixes.

Learn to eat properly and you are less likely to binge. It's as simple as that!

Now every go tell Sara the same as you said here because she is insistant upon doing a form of keto diet too and she goes through the same damn cycle: diet/binge/diet/binge etc.

Posted by: M.J.H.

I know that there are no quick fixes, but at the same time I think that some ways of eating are easier than other ways of eating.

Posted by: Cardinal

If you are trying to get through the first few days of a stringent diet, you can always drug yourself up appropriately. Has never failed me in the past

50-75 mg Ephedrine wipes out quite a few of the low carb problems
Grab a box or two of nictotine patches and some gum
Devour tons of water and fiber and you should be good to go.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by Cardinal

If you are trying to get through the first few days of a stringent diet, you can always drug yourself up appropriately. Has never failed me in the past

50-75 mg Ephedrine wipes out quite a few of the low carb problems
Grab a box or two of nictotine patches and some gum
Devour tons of water and fiber and you should be good to go.

Posted by: aggies1ut

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Originally Posted by MonStar

Jake hit it right on the nail when he said that I go through this ridiculous cycle all the time of binge/diet/binge/diet. But honestly, the biggest problem is that I don't seem to have the determination to follow a clean diet. I always want to cheat. And not only just cheat, but binge excessively. I mean I hit 243 lbs. now. I have never weighed this much as far back as I can remember.

How many journals have you started on here, how many threads on CKD/TKD/Atkins have you started on here and over at Avant........It's taken you this long to realize that these are not the type of diets for you?

They are completely too restrictive, especially for a person with binge tendencies. People have told you this same thing over and over. I know that this is easier said than done, but Jesus, it just takes some discipline. If you want something badly enough, you can achieve it.

Posted by: Minotaur

Atkins is not designed to be a diet, but a lifestyle change. If you look at it as a diet, you will fail. It is not a temporary solution to a permanent problem.

You eat the Atkins way if your body cannot tolerate carbs from grains, corn, rice or potatoes. If you can tolerate those, you don't cut them out, you cut them down. Some people are genetically predisposed to not being able to tolerate starchy carbs (wheat, rice, oats, corn, potatoes, etc.).

I wish I could eat oatmeal, sweet potatoes, white potates, rice, etc. But I can't. So I cut them out. But I still eat vegs, more than I ever did. And fruit. And my energy is none the worse for wear. In fact, I feel better and my weights are increasing because my body is not reacting to substances it can't handle properly.

There is no right or wrong or One-Size-Fits-All diet for everyone. So before anyone bashes Atkins or anything else, walk in someone else's shoes and learn something of the subject.

Posted by: Pylon

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Originally Posted by Minotaur

So before anyone bashes Atkins or anything else, walk in someone else's shoes and learn something of the subject.

I think the point most were trying to make is that it is probably not the right choice for MonStar and his issues. It doesn't matter what plan you are on, good, bad or indifferent, if you can't reign yourself in when the dessert cart passes, it's no good.

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