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steroid.com cycle for a first cycle good or bad


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Posted by: hotwiebeo

Im just wondering what people think of this cycle from steroid.com for a first injection cycle. Ive done prohormones before but want to get into something alittle more serious like injectables and i want to keep water retention low, please tell me what u think of this for a first cycle. http://steroid.com/novicecycle1.php.



Posted by: hotwiebeo

i forgot to tell you it is cycle #1-4



Posted by: gococksDJS

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Originally Posted by hotwiebeo
i forgot to tell you it is cycle #1-4
A test/deca/winny cycle for your first? That is not a good first time cycle. I know veterans who won't touch deca because of what it does to your HPTA.
Just run test at 500mg/week for your first cycle.



Posted by: Cardinal

I don't like any of those cycles! There are quite a few good boards out there with good sample cycles. You just picked some less than ideal examples.

Like gococksDJS said

Testosterone only or
Testosterone + Kickstart steroid for first four weeks

followed by Nolvadex pct



Posted by: LAM

Quote:
Originally Posted by hotwiebeo
Im just wondering what people think of this cycle from steroid.com for a first injection cycle. Ive done prohormones before but want to get into something alittle more serious like injectables and i want to keep water retention low, please tell me what u think of this for a first cycle. http://steroid.com/novicecycle1.php.
1st cycle:

test enanthate or test cyp for 10 weeks. with nolva on hand for gyno and for PCT. that's all you need.



Posted by: hotwiebeo

with this test am i going to have heavy water retention, because that is the main thing im worried about. I know there will be some of course.



Posted by: hotwiebeo

should i take nolvadex with my cycle to avoid gyno or should i just wait until the end for pct



Posted by: LAM

you can take 10-20 mg of nolva ED or EOD to help keep bloat down



Posted by: Pirate!

I wouldn't do ten weeks without HCG either throughout the cycle or just before pct.



Posted by: Mudge

Some people pull in lots of water, some dont. I know a guy that looks like a chipmunk on a mere 15mg of dbol ED, that doesn't happen to me. When I do drol I do pickup a lot of fast weight, it all hits my legs.



Posted by: Mags

Is nolvadex the only thing to run whilst on/after your cycle. Okay so that'll clear any gyno, water retention etc bu I thought it only deals with the imbalance of estrogen after the cycles finished. That won't help you keep your gains as much as running HCG as well will it?



Posted by: hotwiebeo

Would 10 weeks be to long for a first cycle of 500mg a week tho, maybe do 8 at 500 or 10 at 250 then pct, when doing pct should i take HCG and nolva or just nolva cause i want to make sure i maximize my gains and keep it. Im 5'11 at 200 pounds with around 7 percent body fat, my main goal is to hit around 225 + with one or 2 cycles and shred down to a hopefully ripped 215. Fat isnt really an issue with me since i have a very lean muscle structure. Would this cycle be the optimum way to accomplish my goal?




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