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Stus MDien Cycle

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Posted by: Stu

Just a basic log of my MDien cycle for anyone that might be interested

Aim of cycle: to lose body fat while maintaining current weight

CYCLE:

wk1: MD 12mg
wk2: MD 16mg
wk3: MD 16mg

may do another week depending on sides

PCT:

wk1: Novla 40mg
wk2: Nolva 30mg
wk3: Nolva 20mg

Additional Sups: L-Arginine, Now Foods Liver Support, Now Foods Super Antioxidants

STATS:

Height: 5'8
Current weight: 172lbs
Bodyfat: 14-15%

TARGET:

Height 6'0 (j/k)
Weight: 174lbs
Bodyfat: 11%

Current Cals 3500+ tapering down to 3000 by the end of the cycle

Training Split - HIT

Monday: Chest, Tris, Bis

Wednesday: Back

Friday: Legs, Shoulders

Sat: Core, Abs, Cardio



Posted by: Stu

Trained chest, bis, tris today. Gym was pretty much empty so got a free personal training session from one of the guys who works there. He absolutely killed me on the dips.

Recovery seems to have improved a bit but nothing significant to report yet.



Posted by: Luke9583

I ran one cycle at 8-12mg. I think 16 might be alittle high man. G'luck with the cycle though. You're goals like VERY acheivable.



Posted by: Robboe

Quote:
Originally Posted by stu21Ldn
STATS:

Height: 5'8
Current weight: 172lbs
Bodyfat: 14-15%

TARGET:

Height 6'0 (j/k)
Weight: 174lbs
Bodyfat: 11%
Not trying to sound the pessimist here, but based on your targets, you want to drop 5lbs of fat while adding 7lbs of LBM. I'm not sure i see you dropping the fat on over 3000kcals over three weeks.

But good luck in trying all the same. This'll work more as a recomp which is a good thing.



Posted by: Stu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke9583
I ran one cycle at 8-12mg. I think 16 might be alittle high man. G'luck with the cycle though. You're goals like VERY acheivable.
There are guys on AM running higher doses for longer than me but if you think 16s too high ill stick at 12

Quote:
Originally Posted by TCD
Not trying to sound the pessimist here, but based on your targets, you want to drop 5lbs of fat while adding 7lbs of LBM. I'm not sure i see you dropping the fat on over 3000kcals over three weeks.

But good luck in trying all the same. This'll work more as a recomp which is a good thing.
3000 cals is about maintanence for me do you think it would be worth aiming for a bit lower than that?



Posted by: Robboe

Your maintenance level is 17kcals/lb BW?

Jesus H. Christ on a moped driving through Brixton in a KKK outfit. You must have some badass partitioning. You musta really let yourself slip to get up to 14-15%!

If that is true what you say, then just ignore me and go for it.



Posted by: Luke9583

You won't add 7lbs of LBM, but you'll hit your target weight. The goal looks realistic to me.



Posted by: Stu

Quote:
Originally Posted by TCD
Your maintenance level is 17kcals/lb BW?

Jesus H. Christ on a moped driving through Brixton in a KKK outfit. You must have some badass partitioning. You musta really let yourself slip to get up to 14-15%!

If that is true what you say, then just ignore me and go for it.
Beer, pizza and xmas is what helped to get me to 14-15%

lol Ive had to walk to the underground station in brixton at about 5am its not a nice place in the day, its even worse at night. Mind you some of Newcastle and Sunderland aint that great either.



Posted by: Robboe

He wants to hit the target weight, but also reduce his bodyfat by 3-4%. That is what is not realistic in three weeks. At least not on MDien.



Posted by: Robboe

Quote:
Originally Posted by stu21Ldn
Beer, pizza and xmas is what helped to get me to 14-15%

lol Ive had to walk to the underground station in brixton at about 5am its not a nice place in the day, its even worse at night. Mind you some of Newcastle and Sunderland aint that great either.
I don't know much about Scumderland really, other than they're all tramps.

There are about 7-8 really bad parts of Newcastle. I live in and around 4 of them.



Posted by: Luke9583

Quote:
Originally Posted by TCD
He wants to hit the target weight, but also reduce his bodyfat by 3-4%. That is what is not realistic in three weeks. At least not on MDien.
I'm saying he'll drop the fat, and hit the target weight (but with mostly water). It's up to him wether or not he builds the muscle.



Posted by: Stu

Scumderland - You must be a newcastle fan

Be interesting so see if Bellamy is still on your books by the end of the day. I hear he just turned down the offer from the Brummies



Posted by: Luke9583

I am a newcastle fan.... and guiness






Posted by: Stu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke9583
I am a newcastle fan.... and guiness


This is a cutting cycle mentioning the word guiness in my log again an il have to ban you



Posted by: Luke9583

mmmmm Guiness


That glass looks so lonely. We should fill it with that COLD stout








O ya, have a great cycle man



Posted by: Robboe

Quote:
Originally Posted by stu21Ldn
Scumderland - You must be a newcastle fan

Be interesting so see if Bellamy is still on your books by the end of the day. I hear he just turned down the offer from the Brummies
Get serious, i'm not gonna have Newcastle as my location and be supporting the mackums.

Born and bread here.

Yeah, i hear he's hoping Celtic will come and get him on loan.



Posted by: Stu

Half my families mackum. thankfully im from the better half. I was seeing a brough girl for a while, damn northern girls are goers! shame she was married



Posted by: Robboe

Haha.

P.s. I hate half of you.



Posted by: Stu

Quote:
Originally Posted by TCD
Haha.

P.s. I hate half of you.
Yeah well i inherited the northern ability for drinking but i mananaged to avoid that accent

I can translate geordie into english quite well

Quote:
Originally Posted by Myself
Recovery seems to have improved a bit but nothing significant to report yet.
Gonna have to retract this statement recovery aint up at all. In fact chest and tris ache more than usual



Posted by: Robboe

You'd have trouble interpretting my accent if i really turned it on.



Posted by: Stu

Did back today, i think the stuff is starting to kick in seemed to be able to add a couple more reps on some exercises. nipples are a bit puffy today so i guess thats a sign that somethings happening



Posted by: Stu

After feeling pretty good yesterday things kind of went down hill last night woke up feeling rough as hell this morning. I feel the likely hood of me chucking today is fairly high. I don't think the Mdien has anything to do with it but i do not feel well at all



Posted by: Luke9583

Quote:
Originally Posted by stu21Ldn
After feeling pretty good yesterday things kind of went down hill last night woke up feeling rough as hell this morning. I feel the likely hood of me chucking today is fairly high. I don't think the Mdien has anything to do with it but i do not feel well at all
If you have alot of drainage, sinus pressure and an iffy stomache.. that's a common symptom with MD and M1-t. Lower the dosage.



Posted by: Stu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke9583
If you have alot of drainage, sinus pressure and an iffy stomache.. that's a common symptom with MD and M1-t. Lower the dosage.
Yeah stomach is iffy, and i got a nice headache no sinus problems tho

Ill see how i feel by the end of the day if im still rough il drop it to 8mg. It seems a bit pointless being on cycle if i cant eat anything



Posted by: Luke9583

Quote:
Originally Posted by stu21Ldn
It seems a bit pointless being on cycle if i cant eat anything
Exactly! This was the problem i had with mD.

Higher Power MD?



Posted by: Stu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke9583
Exactly! This was the problem i had with mD.

Higher Power MD?
no its UL

its not even really done anything for me either i know im only seven days in but still



Posted by: Luke9583

Quote:
Originally Posted by stu21Ldn
no its UL

its not even really done anything for me either i know im only seven days in but still
With MD and M1t, I don't see any positive results until at least 18 days into the cycle. But the neusia and sinus effects hit me within the first day.

So that's another reason i'm on my last cycle. A cycle to me, means at least a month of feeling like I have the flu. And I still force myself to eat 4000cals

I'd rather have fun



Posted by: Stu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke9583
With MD and M1t, I don't see any positive results until at least 18 days into the cycle. But the neusia and sinus effects hit me within the first day.

So that's another reason i'm on my last cycle. A cycle to me, means at least a month of feeling like I have the flu. And I still force myself to eat 4000cals

I'd rather have fun
At least i didnt spend loadsa money on this stuff, if i dont get better im just gonna sell this shit off, iv got finals comming up i cant be dealing with feeling ill



Posted by: MTN WARRIOR

Almost all PHs/PS have given me some sinus issues, but MD gave me it from the start. Dont care though, I am still eating like a madman, though gaseous also (wife hates that). They all have some sides, a little sinus shit is nothing.



Posted by: MTN WARRIOR

Alright Post #500!!!



Posted by: Luke9583

Quote:
Originally Posted by MTN WARRIOR
Alright Post #500!!!
I turned over #5000 today

About the sinus thing, it got so bad on an m1t cycle for me that I was vomitting. (that much drainage.)



Posted by: vellanator

That's gnarly - hope I don't have problems like that when I give it a shot...



Posted by: Stu

Quote:
Originally Posted by MTN WARRIOR
Almost all PHs/PS have given me some sinus issues, but MD gave me it from the start. Dont care though, I am still eating like a madman, though gaseous also (wife hates that). They all have some sides, a little sinus shit is nothing.
Its not the sinus shit thats the problem i dont think my stomach agrees with this stuff



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