Originally Posted by gococksDJS

It took me longer than PCT to get my libido back up, but it will happen.

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

With 1-AD, I only experienced very mild libido loss, but with M1T it was gone big time...

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

It took me longer than PCT to get my libido back up, but it will happen.

Originally Posted by cfs3

Actually, my labido is just fine. I was wondering how long it would take before I could life more than a six year old girl. When does the strenght start to come back?

Originally Posted by crazy_enough

How cardio on M1t? I guess I mean the stamina/cardio vascular capacity and maybe even will power to do cardio! Better, same worst?
I guess bp can be a little high, dyou find it interferes?(sp)

Originally Posted by cfs3

Cardio during PCT is a no-no. That's a pretty much universally accepted. Right now I have zero test in my system and I can overtrain very easy.

Originally Posted by MTN WARRIOR

Agreed that you will lose some, but not all of your gains in strength. I have been trying a new twist (for me anyway). I stop taking creatine and workout boosters while on PHs. M1T in particular holds water enough as it is that I dont need creatine doing it as well. Then, during PCT, I start taking those two supps again. I dont know if I build up a tolerance while taking it for so long, then after going back on, I am renewed or what. I notice it instantly upon starting those two supps back up. It helps me lift more and keep my "lifting libido" up. IT could all be mental, but it works every time. If I bench 275 on cycle, then I only drop to about 265-270 during PCT. I was almost as "jacked" during PCT as I was on cycle. Just my experience. ALthough you don't have to cycle creatine, I have to imagine that you build a tolerance to it like you can for any substance.

Originally Posted by crazy_enough

That makes sense...But how bout on cycle?

Originally Posted by cfs3

If you're goal is to bulk, it would be counter productive. My understanding is that intensive cardio has no place during a bulk (PH induced or otherwise). Some would disagree though.

Originally Posted by thatguy

This is good to here, GC, because I'm in my last week of PCT and I'm SO close to being where I was, but not quite. It's good to hear that it might take a little longer than PCT even with something as mild as 1-AD/4-AD.

Originally Posted by cfs3

If you're goal is to bulk, it would be counter productive. My understanding is that intensive cardio has no place during a bulk (PH induced or otherwise). Some would disagree though.

Originally Posted by young d

i do HIIT cardio all year round, it kicks ass... why would low intensity cardio be better if bulking?.. high intesity is in every sense superior to regular cardio regardless of cutting or bulking

Originally Posted by cfs3

Some advice for you cycle crazy enough. First off, everyone is different, so feel free to ignore my advice.

When I was on my M1T cycle I doubled up the number of workouts on every muscle group except the legs. I still did those only once a week with the exception of my calves. I did those three times a week and they exploded in size (I gained a couple of inches, cold).

Food, food, and more food. Take a weight gainer if you need to. East about six or seven times a day. I'm 5'10" at 210 (pre-M1T) and I ate 4000 cals a day. I think I over did that though, I picked up a few pounds of fat.

Even though I upped the number of workouts, I still don't think I was pushing it as hard as I could. I aware that overtraining is a worry, but I never felt any of the symptoms.

Sleep. Get lots of sleep. About 7 to 8 hours per day.

The M1T really kicked in on the 10th day. The pumps became outrageous and the growth really kicked in.

Eat as clean as you can, but don't beat yourself up if you cheat a bit. You'll be constantly hungry and will eat anything that gets to close. My neighbor lost a cat that way... Make sure to eat a slow digesting meal before bed or get up after four hours of sleep to get a snack or you'll wake up ravenous and risk binging. I know I did.

Make sure that you are taking your multivitamin and multimineral supplements. Take an extra dose of vitamins C & E after your workout. Get plenty of EFAs.

Well, there are a few tips for you.

Originally Posted by crazy_enough

thanx very much!! I think I already have much of that down , especially the diet part, with my current 6 meals/day...Currently cals are around 2900,(40-40-20) maintenance for me is 2300-2400 and my diet is cleaner than a nuns ass! I didnt intend on upping that count much more during my cycle, but I might reconsider this...but I am just (just..lol thats funny)5 foot 6 3/4 and 175 so...
I cant survive without a minimum of 8 hours/sleep so Im good here and supplement wise Im already on track....like way on track!

its good to know I seem to be doing things right to make the most of my cycle... thanx again cfs3

Originally Posted by crazy_enough

Wicked man!

Originally Posted by cfs3

. My voice is very deep

Originally Posted by du510

Be careful of joint/tendon/ligament pain too. Muscle will grow wicked fast, but these wont adjust as quickly, makes for a good way to get hurt.

Id recommend glucosamine/chondritin for joints, but definitely be careful of injuries there.

Originally Posted by crazy_enough

I had imagined a high pitched voice on you...that damn avi of yours is misleading!lol

Originally Posted by cfs3

Oh yeah, and love me for my posts, not my GIF!

Originally Posted by cfs3

Thanks du510!

I've learned about this before my cycle, so I've been taking Glucosamin/Chondritin (joints), Calcium/Magnesium (bones), and MSM (joints and ligaments). I started taking them a month and a half before I started my cycle and have had zero problems.

Now my big worry is overtraining.

Originally Posted by du510

Not a problem. While on anabolics though, its tough as hell to overtrain. That, my friend, is good news.

Originally Posted by crazy_enough

Guilty!
Guilty!
Guilty!
Guilty!

I promise to get to know the real YOU hiding behind the fake boobies!

Originally Posted by cfs3

On a side note, I'm no longer able to wear ...... and a half a dozen pairs of socks......and socks are too tight to be comfortable.

Not that I'm complaining.

Originally Posted by du510

Your feet grew? Fucking weirdo.

Originally Posted by cfs3

Hey, you know what they say about large feet...











Large shoes...

Originally Posted by du510

Your feet grew? Fucking weirdo.

Originally Posted by cfs3

Well, as of last Sunday I started PCT. I decided not to go an extra week on my cycle. My next goal is to cut and I didn't want to wait. Plus, I wasn't getting enough sleep and the lethargy was killing me.

I understood before hand that my test levels would be equal to that of a six year old girl. I just didn't stop to think that so would my lifting. Now I'm worried that the little down the block is going to kick my butt. As least, that's the word on the street.

Anywho...

My PCT will be four weeks long, but how long will it take for my nads to start producing any level of test again? Does it take the whole PCT or some subset of time?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by du510

Even with 4ad, lethargy is near impossible to avoid while on m1t.

Originally Posted by largepkg

M1T = :o No way to avoid it. I'm taking 8 sprays x 2 ED and still very tired, but I want to hump everything in sight.

Originally Posted by Revolution Max

really bro that sucks, maybe I got lucky

PS: Lets put it this was, 4AD helps alot with lethargy, it might not stop it totaly for some people but it deff. helps control it.

Originally Posted by largepkg

I'm sure everyone reacts a little different. I go up to 20mg ED as well so I'm sure that doesn't help. All in the name of

Originally Posted by Revolution Max

PS: Lets put it this was, 4AD helps alot with lethargy, it might not stop it totaly for some people but it deff. helps control it.

Originally Posted by du510

exactly my point. 4-ad mitigates, not eliminates.

At the same time, everyone responds differently.

Originally Posted by Revolution Max

Your 100% right, I misunderstood you. I thought you ment it doesnt work at all.