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Posted by: slowranacher

i just ordered 2 bottles before the deadline.my question is will this at the suggested dosage shut down natural test and is 60xy alright for pct at the suggested dosage?


Posted by: simbh

Well , what most people do as a dosage is 300mg/day which is considered a moderate-low dosage. Yes , it will shut down your natural testosterone because 1-ad converts to 1-test as it gets throught the liver. For your natural test level to get back to normal after a cycle, you must do a proper pct. 6-oxo is fine for 1-ad but I would still recommend nolva as it is cheaper and easy to get. To help bring back your natural test level , you may also take a tribulus supplement.


Posted by: thatguy

And, as you probably already know, you can ease the symptoms of low test (lethargy, libido loss) through 4-AD. If you forgot to/didn't by 4-AD, don't worry about it. 1-AD is relatively mild.


Posted by: Tha Don

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Originally Posted by thatguy
And, as you probably already know, you can ease the symptoms of low test (lethargy, libido loss) through 4-AD. If you forgot to/didn't by 4-AD, don't worry about it. 1-AD is relatively mild.
I would never run a cycle without a test base (in this case 4ad), IMO it is essential unless lethargy, depression, testicular shrinkage and libdo loss do not concern you, in which case you haven't got much to worry about, but i'm running 400mg w/ 300mg transdermal 4ad ed and i can still feel the lethargy (i would up the dose to 500-600 if i had enough bottles but i don't)

just my .02


Posted by: DOMS

young d, have you ever done 1-Test?


Posted by: slowranacher

well,i thought hard about getting the 4ad also,and saw that some did 1-ad alone and i thought i would try this as a first.but you are saying that i will get shut down?i plan on also the recomended dosage on the 60xy,will that be enough?


Posted by: gococksDJS

I did 1-AD alone, and it wasn't that bad. I only had mild libido loss but 4AD is not going to make or break your cycle.


Posted by: thatguy

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Originally Posted by gococksDJS
I did 1-AD alone, and it wasn't that bad. I only had mild libido loss but 4AD is not going to make or break your cycle.
Agreed. And, not having 4-AD pretty much eliminates the possibility of gyno as well.


Posted by: simbh

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Originally Posted by slowranacher
well,i thought hard about getting the 4ad also,and saw that some did 1-ad alone and i thought i would try this as a first.but you are saying that i will get shut down?i plan on also the recomended dosage on the 60xy,will that be enough?
It's not that bad if you don't take a big dosage. I'm taking 300mg a day and its livable ...


Posted by: slowranacher

simbh,have you had any noticable side effects?


Posted by: darek22

I am on the 1-ad 4-ad stack. I think the only thing you might notice is feeling a bit more exhausted in the end of the day then usual.


Posted by: thatguy

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Originally Posted by darek22
I am on the 1-ad 4-ad stack. I think the only thing you might notice is feeling a bit more exhausted in the end of the day then usual.
Definitely. I didn't have too much libido loss, but the lethargy was very noticeable.


Posted by: simbh

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Originally Posted by slowranacher
simbh,have you had any noticable side effects?
Not that bad , actually ... I did feel more exhausted at night and during the morning . I never seem to get enough sleep even though I get like 10 hours of sleep ...

But thats pretty much it.


Posted by: darek22

10 hours of sleep WOW. .. you might be over-sleeping and this is the cause of your morning weakness.


Posted by: gococksDJS

Try some M1T, 23 hours of sleep a day isn't enough.


Posted by: simbh

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Originally Posted by darek22
10 hours of sleep WOW. .. you might be over-sleeping and this is the cause of your morning weakness.
Don't worry , I'm not ... Even if I sleep my usual 7-8 hours of sleep I feel tired ... It's jsut a normal side of 1-ad .


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