Originally Posted by LittleKid

Will marijuana affect your gains? If so how bad?

Originally Posted by PreMier

Arent you 15? WTF are you doing smoking dope?

There is a HUGE thread here on MJ and its effects on your training. Searh peeps

Originally Posted by derekisdman

I thought heroin was dope

Originally Posted by LittleKid

Will marijuana affect your gains? If so how bad?

Originally Posted by Cold Iron

Like I said in the bigger thread , one of my buddies blazes a minimum 4/day and one before EVERY workout and is more shredded that anyone in my gym.

I'll try to get some pics up of him...

Originally Posted by LAM

it effects everyone different. I made great gains in HS and college and I smoked pot daily.

Originally Posted by LittleKid

this week will be my first, i'll see how it goes.

Originally Posted by njc

Your first week training? Your first week smoking? Or your first week combining?

Originally Posted by CowPimp

There is really no conclusive evidence that it negatively affects one's training. There are some studies that suggest it may lower testosterone levels, but that's about it.

I smoke a few times a week, and I still make good gains. The munchies are the hardest thing to overcome, but I have that under control at this point.

Originally Posted by TopProducer

My brother lifts 5 days a week and smokes all day everyday. He even smokes before he goes to the gym. Do you guys think this will reduce his explosiveness and ability to put up more weight and more reps?

Originally Posted by PreMier

Arent you 15? WTF are you doing smoking dope?

There is a HUGE thread here on MJ and its effects on your training. Searh peeps

Originally Posted by PreMier

Answer my question!

Originally Posted by ACEOUTDOOR

Contrary to popular belief, marijuana is addicting to some people. Not everyone. But I know plenty of people hooked on the bud.

Originally Posted by ACEOUTDOOR

Contrary to popular belief, marijuana is addicting to some people. Not everyone. But I know plenty of people hooked on the bud.

Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

I don't understand how people can train while stoned or drunk. I've never had a drink before a workout, a bike ride, or a hockey game. I need to have all my wits about me when I train.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

What question? You didn't ask a question...

Originally Posted by LittleKid

Yea, I realize it can be laced, and I hope it doesn't come anywhere near me. I'm just gettin' my stuff from a few friends that are regular smokers (and they will be with me), so i'm pretty sure it won't be.

Man I dunno where you guys that say chicks don't like smokers live... cause i've had quite a few girls offer me a BJ just if they can smoke with me and fuck its been.... 3 days now? Ahahah, granted they were all whores but fuck this is HS, i don't care anymore..

i don't believe M.J. is a gateway drug AT ALL, it's not even been proven..
if anything alchohol is the "gateway drug" most will have tryed it before M.J. (i did) and once i've started drinking i've wanted to explore M.J.

btw CowPimp thats some kickass hair man, nice!

Originally Posted by njc

Dude if girls wanna give you a BJ its cuase they wanna give you a BJ, not for your pot. I cant imagine someone being so hard up for pot that they would suck d*** for it.

Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait

WHAT THE HECK!!! SOMEBODY SHOULD SMACK YOUR DAD!!!

What are you doing smoking dope?!!

Ive got a good question for ya'll, instead of what harm will the pot do,

WHAT GOOD WILL IT DO?!!??!!

Plus, it might give you gyno, (MAN BREASTS)

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Originally Posted by njc

It does me good in that it reminds me to not take life so seriously and it makes me happy and I do it at the end of the day when all my shits done. And I am 245% convinced that it will not give me Gyno. Plus it keeps me from abousing a far more dangerous and unhealthy drug, alcohol. Youre a musicain right? Me too. Theres nothing like toking and then jamming. Nothing. Pot and music were meant for each other. If you dont like pot, great. But understand that all you can do is speak for yourself and that you have no idea what effects it has on me.

Originally Posted by MuIzdeIzuz

Im a performer also... And agreed, I write better high. Tupac for example, everything he wrote, he said himself, he was either high, drunk, or fucked up anyway. BUT, i'd rather be on teh good side of the law, and focus on bodybuilding and strength competitions than where I can get the next dime at. And skinny dude, I noticed you said "Man this is HS, I dont give a fuck anymore" Man, this is the most ignorant statement Iseen in awhile. Granted, I just dropped out, but I also have my GED, and enrolled in CAD and computer/networking specialist degree programs in college. Everything you do is HS follows you, I learned the hard way. Im not your father, ive smoked, ive drank, ive done everything possible. Its how you let it affect your life is what really matters kid. Just keep your head up, and think long term, twenty years or so ahead, on what your life will an wont be like on dope.

Originally Posted by LittleKid

That was directed towards the women, no offense to the ladys on these boards but i think women (in hs) can be really stupid & don't know what they want sometimes.. This is just from personal experience though.

I think HS IS important.. but i'm not gonna hit the books everynight to prepare for that big test. I want to pass to be elligible for football, and thats worked for quite a while

Originally Posted by brodus

This is true to an extent, until you grow out of that. I won't argue that pot makes music more vivd when you're younger or less experienced. This is true.

But after the initial "turned on" curve, your ability to rapidly progress on the instrument declines, for a variety of reasons. Your ability to "jam," or more precisely, feel good about what you're doing increases, but your complexity of ideas and your advancement and retention of idiosynchratic musical methods does not. This is a topic very near to my heart, and I think about it constantly.

Not to mention it's a bitch to play two sets while high. You have to keep smoking or do speed or something. You go backstage at setbreak, blaze, come out all geeked, and you rock the first four songs super hard...and then you start to rapidly lose steam. And your higher register notes of your voice start sucking...

Ever wonder why great "jam bands" start sucking ass as the years go by? Don't people normally get better with practice?

Isn't there a part of you that says, if I need to do a drug to enjoy doing something, maybe I'm not really cut out for it? You know, there is such a thing as a true artist. The time-worn stereotype of the druggie-musician is as valid as saying all black men play basketball.

And sometimes feeling good for no reason is a bad thing. Sometimes being "cool" with certain people is a bad thing. I love Dave Chappel's line about why he stopped smoking weed--he was gettin' high with the KKK.

And sorry, Keith Richards bangs a few chords on a five-stringed Telecaster. You may like his music, but if that's as good as I got after decades of playing, I'd just OD and get it over with.

I took a permanent break from dope, moved to the middle of nowhere, and practiced guitar non-stop. In one-year I went from a decent college-town player to a full-time professional player in a large city. I am 100% sure this wouldn't have happened if I was still smoking daily (and growing ). There just isn't enough time to fit real practicing in with heavy partying and the social life that goes with it, the amotivational syndrome, etc. Can you get good while smoking? Sure. Can you lift weights while being a stoner? Of course. But I don't think you'll ever reach the upper echelon unless things like getting high are your absolute last priority, if even on the map.

Music is so much more of a high when you don't need to get ripped to be amazing. To be totally straight and feel like an electric cable is plugged into your spine when you close your eyes and take a solo is amazing, and its free if you work for it.

It's like the difference between doing acid to have a "spiritual experience," versus being truly enlightened 24x7. After a while you get tired of looking over the fence at something that looks cool, but you can't take back with you...and so you figure out how to grab what it is that turns you on naturally.

I have yet to see someone I respect who smoked a good amount of pot daily for decades and didn't have a host of issues I would rather not have. And on the flip side, everyone I know who doesn't smoke has a much more varied persona, many more dimensions, interests, etc. Think about it--if getting high truly made people better at things, then the very top in every field would be major stoners: If you asked a theoretical physicist how he came up with Superstring theory, he'd say, "Wicked dank nugs, bra." Instead he speaks fluently in a language everyone is free to learn, yet most would consider foreign. If you asked a physician how he was able to sever the corpus collusum of a patient with severe epilepsy without killing him/her, he'd say "Northern Lights Number 5 and a four-foot phatty bubbler." Instead he rapidly exhausts the normal person's attention span with an explanation of his theories and their applications.

Its a drug that alters your perceptions. It's not a smart drug. It's an empathogen to a degree. But it doesn't increase performance. Steroids increase performance. Speed increases performance. Better sleep increases performance.

Oh, one other thing. I believe very strongly in situation-specific memory, and I use this to explain why you remember some things only when you're high, and also why test-takers usually suck when stoned, and why classroom retention is lower when you're high. In other words, marijuana doesn't destroy your memory, it just puts it in the "stoned" memory file cabinet, which remains locked until blazing re-occurs. This also is in line with the brain cell research...marijuana seems to leave a "film" of fatty-type deposits on your brain. I have seen many photos.

BTW, high school sucks. Everyone worries so much about what everyone else is doing...people get in your shit for no reason...no one is responsible for their rent, bills, etc., but most are "adults" by law. If you're smart people hate on you.

In the end I do agree that pot is less harmful in the end than alcohol. But having to chose one or the other is a false dilemma. Sell the weed, buy a good metronome and a good instructional book, and practice the shit out of your instrument of choice. Or lift like a banshee.