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Posted by: Twin Peak

FYI, DS's new anti-e is now for sale. I have been using it about a week now and I am rather impressed.

It *seems* to be rather potent as I am breaking out like crazy (6-oxo never did this to me) and I have had a gyno flare up that nothing has helped (oral and dermal 6-oxo, mega dose tamoxifen, armidex) and its almost gone now -- though I am double dosing it. And my joints as of yesterday are really starting to dry up.

I have no idea whether this will be an impressive test booster in the real world, though on paper it looks rather good.

Posted by: Du

Youre saying this over-the-counter stuff is stronger than nolva??

Posted by: musclepump

You must of have some bunk nolva.

Posted by: Prince

what the hell is the ingredient?

Posted by: ericnb_98

They have the write up on the DS web site. i've heard good things about it
and will probable try it.

Posted by: ZECH

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Originally Posted by du510

Youre saying this over-the-counter stuff is stronger than nolva??

Sldge says yes

Posted by: ZECH

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

what the hell is the ingredient?

Exemestane

Posted by: tucker01

Any Profiles done?

Posted by: Prince

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Originally Posted by dg806

Exemestane

correct me if I am wrong but isn't that an Rx drug?

Posted by: maze

Exemestane is an Anti-aromatase not an anti-estrogen ... and it has been compared in favor with tamoxifen for Breast Cancer pacients. It is often used on-cycle and not post.

Posted by: Prince

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Originally Posted by maze

Exemestane is an Anti-aromatase not an anti-estrogen ... and it has been compared in favor with tamoxifen for Breast Cancer pacients. It is often used on-cycle and not post.

yup, and as far as I can find just like Tamoxifen is an Rx drug so is Exemestane.

Posted by: Du

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Originally Posted by maze

Exemestane is an Anti-aromatase not an anti-estrogen ... and it has been compared in favor with tamoxifen for Breast Cancer pacients. It is often used on-cycle and not post.

How would an AI help in pre-existing gyno (as TP said he used it for in his first post)??

Posted by: Twin Peak

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Originally Posted by du510

Youre saying this over-the-counter stuff is stronger than nolva??

Just giving you my experiences. Tis all.

Nolva actually isn't that effective for me. Dermal 6-oxo has proven better in the past.

Posted by: Prince

I would still like to know how they are able to manufacture (or have manufactured) an Rx drug and market it as an OTC supplement.

Posted by: Twin Peak

Rob, how do you know its an rx drug? What classifies something as such? (I am asking honestly here).

Posted by: rrgg

Sledge said it's structure is BASED on exemestane.

Posted by: brodus

It's not Exemestane, but a metabolite, therefore not an Rx drug, per se. Most likely it's a slightly altered and much more potent form, as exemestane's close cousin, formestane, has very poor bioavailability.

I would guess it is an orphaned drug that is not under any patent restriction for this specific application.

Posted by: rrgg

Those poor orphans!

Happy to adopt.

Posted by: Robboe

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Originally Posted by Twin Peak

FYI, DS's new anti-e is now for sale. I have been using it about a week now and I am rather impressed.

It *seems* to be rather potent as I am breaking out like crazy (6-oxo never did this to me) and I have had a gyno flare up that nothing has helped (oral and dermal 6-oxo, mega dose tamoxifen, armidex) and its almost gone now -- though I am double dosing it. And my joints as of yesterday are really starting to dry up.

I have no idea whether this will be an impressive test booster in the real world, though on paper it looks rather good.

Must be good shit if it's doing something for Mr Non-Responder[TM].

Posted by: brodus

I'm most interested in his no-shutdown anabolic and "Meltdown," his "safe" uncoupler. He's also going to release something as good or better than ALRI's Ergomax LMR, which is possibly DMT (desoxy-methyl-testosterone).

Posted by: Prince

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

Rob, how do you know its an rx drug? What classifies something as such? (I am asking honestly here).

because I looked into it, Exemestane is a drug.

Posted by: brodus

Correct, Exemestane is a drug, which, like Formestane, is used (injected) to control certain cancers. It works better than Formestane,which is why Formestane was orphaned, and hence, available at your board sponsor.

Posted by: Twin Peak

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Originally Posted by brodus

I'm most interested in his no-shutdown anabolic and "Meltdown," his "safe" uncoupler. He's also going to release something as good or better than ALRI's Ergomax LMR, which is possibly DMT (desoxy-methyl-testosterone).

I am looking forward to the uncoupler too, though its "Melting Point." Which anabolic are you referring to?

Posted by: ZECH

I tend to agree with Rob. Just like with PH's, it was not a drug but something that converts to a drug. I believe very soon, you will see the FDA halt all sells of research chemiclas as they are technically illegal anyway. They just stopped Matt from getting his synephrine HCl as they deemed it a drug just like ephedra. They are cracking down hard.

Posted by: Twin Peak

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Originally Posted by dg806

I tend to agree with Rob. Just like with PH's, it was not a drug but something that converts to a drug. I believe very soon, you will see the FDA halt all sells of research chemiclas as they are technically illegal anyway. They just stopped Matt from getting his synephrine HCl as they deemed it a drug just like ephedra. They are cracking down hard.

There is a lot technically and legally wrong with this paragraph.

And I was not agreeing or disagreeing with Rob, I was inquiring how something got classified as a drug.

Posted by: ZECH

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Originally Posted by Twin Peak

There is a lot technically and legally wrong with this paragraph.

And I was not agreeing or disagreeing with Rob, I was inquiring how something got classified as a drug.

Legally what?

Posted by: Mudge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

I was inquiring how something got classified as a drug.

All I know is probably what you already know. If something is marketed as a supplement, but drug-like claims are made - the FDA can pull it. If it is noted for health concerns (L-Tryptophan for instance) because of bad batches being made or abuse, then the FDA can again step in and pull it off the market for analisys.

If they deem it to need forms of control, then it can become a drug. Ginkgo Biloba in some parts of Europe is prescription, as is St Johns Wort.

Posted by: Robboe

As is Kava Kava, which is quite ridiculous.

Posted by: gopro

A stronger anti aromatase than Arimidex?? No way.

Posted by: Du

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Originally Posted by gopro

A stronger anti aromatase than Arimidex??

Like femara?

Posted by: Prince

Quote:

Originally Posted by brodus

It's not Exemestane, but a metabolite, therefore not an Rx drug, per se. Most likely it's a slightly altered and much more potent form, as exemestane's close cousin, formestane, has very poor bioavailability.

I would guess it is an orphaned drug that is not under any patent restriction for this specific application.

He (or they) really like to ride on the fine lines, hope they do not find themselves out of business, or worse.

Posted by: ZECH

First hand word from a guy who used to sell research chemicals said it won't be long before the hammer drops. Take it as you will.

Posted by: redspy

I'm puzzled why people would consider this over Nolva, which has lots of clinical support, is cheaper, and a history of being effective.

Sledge's uncoupler on the otherhand sounds great.

Posted by: brodus

Because Nolva is a carcinogen.

Posted by: Designer Supps

First off it is not exemestane (but based off the 1,4,6ene structure) and it is legal and naturally occuring just as DSHEA wants. Exemestane is methylated, Rebound XT is not.

Second it has a Ki value of .24 or .26 (by pubmed standards making it a very potent anti-aromatase), Ill have to look through my notes to double check it. Either one is better then Nolva, Arimidex, 6-oxo or formestane. Its suppression of E is 97% in 3 days at 50mgs per day. Exemestane is the perferred treatment when Nolva fails (which is more common then you may think), Exem. is very safe with a low amount of side effects and although this isnt Exesmestane its structure is very similar and so are it effects.

3rd, the reason it can also be used for pct (as well as off cycle use) is that it boosts natural T and LH levels which is probably why TP as well as myself broke out with its use.

Its orally available and is best absorbed when taken with a faty meal or something like Sesathin.
This is not a research chem, it is cheaper then nolva as well as being stronger.

Posted by: Designer Supps

Melting Point will hopefully be ready by April, as long as my sample is pure and alpha testing goes well, it has a ton of potential.

The non-hormonal anabolic (NHA) works by a pathway no one for whatever reason has even thought of using. It wont supress HPTA, it will boost Test by hundreds of %'s not just a few points and it is also DSHEA compliant. That will hopefully be ready by the end of March.

Posted by: Jodi

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Originally Posted by Designer Supps

Melting Point will hopefully be ready by April, as long as my sample is pure and alpha testing goes well, it has a ton of potential.

I can't wait for this one

Posted by: Twin Peak

Sounds like Sledge should use you as an alpha tester.

Posted by: rrgg

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It wont supress HPTA, it will boost Test by hundreds of %'s not just a few points and it is also DSHEA compliant.

Maybe you should call it Holy Grail XT

Posted by: Designer Supps

haha, thats good, I need a name for it. it wont be like steroids, let me make that very clear. It will without a doubt boost test by that much, but it doesnt mean youll blow up overnight.

Jody Ill keep you in mind for alpha testing, as long as they send me enough.

Posted by: Jodi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Designer Supps

haha, thats good, I need a name for it. it wont be like steroids, let me make that very clear. It will without a doubt boost test by that much, but it doesnt mean youll blow up overnight.

Jody Ill keep you in mind for alpha testing, as long as they send me enough.

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