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Posted by: Trusted Employe

people say eat 500 calories less, in 1 week if you eat 1000 less you will loose 1 pound


Posted by: stu21Ldn

a pound of what muscle, fat, water?


Posted by: TCD

Huh?


Posted by: stu21Ldn

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Originally Posted by TCD
Huh?
im glad im not the only one who didnt understand this post


Posted by: DDan16

if you want to lose weight, you need to lower your caloric intake. if you manage to lower you intake by 3500 calories/week then you will lose a pound of weight/week. wether it is fat, water, or muscle depends on your diet. among other things.

3500 calories = 1 lb not 7000


Posted by: stu21Ldn

Quote:
Originally Posted by DDan16
if you want to lose weight, you need to lower your caloric intake. if you manage to lower you intake by 3500 calories/week then you will lose a pound of weight/week. wether it is fat, water, or muscle depends on your diet. among other things.
this also does not make sense


Posted by: Musclebeach

Easy... eat 500 cals less a day and in a week you will lose 1 pound... if your a bodybuilder you better hope to god its not muscle. You have to keep in mind water retention and weigh yourself at the same time of day and such.

500 x 7 = 3500 = 1lb

-Jeff.


Posted by: DDan16

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Originally Posted by stu21Ldn
this also does not make sense
how does it not make sense?


Posted by: Vieope

2 + 2 = 4


Posted by: Trusted Employe

oh it is 3500 my mistake... I guess i learned something so dropping it 500 calories is good enough then


Posted by: stu21Ldn

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Originally Posted by Musclebeach
Easy... eat 500 cals less a day and in a week you will lose 1 pound... if your a bodybuilder you better hope to god its not muscle. You have to keep in mind water retention and weigh yourself at the same time of day and such.

500 x 7 = 3500 = 1lb

-Jeff.
hmm not really
well for a start if your on a bulking bulking you would shoot for over 500 calories over maintenace so reducing that by 500 cals would put you at about maintenace in which case you should not lose any weight.

and because you calorfic intake is only a partial factor in weight loss. it also depends on your training. if you drop your calories by 500 and sit on your arse all day your not going to lose as much weight as someone who does an hour of cardio every day.


Posted by: Maynard Keenan

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Originally Posted by DDan16
if you want to lose weight, you need to lower your caloric intake. if you manage to lower you intake by 3500 calories/week then you will lose a pound of weight/week. wether it is fat, water, or muscle depends on your diet. among other things.

3500 calories = 1 lb not 7000
AGREES 3500 CALORIES IS 1 LB. EAT 500 LESS A DAY AND IN A WEEK YOULL LOSE A LB. (OF FAT I DONT KNOW)


Posted by: KarlW

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if you drop your calories by 500 and sit on your arse all day your not going to lose as much weight as someone who does an hour of cardio every day.
Yeah but you will lose weight, so long as sitting on your arse is what you've always done.


Posted by: stu21Ldn

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maynard Keenan
AGREES 3500 CALORIES IS 1 LB. EAT 500 LESS A DAY AND IN A WEEK YOULL LOSE A LB. (OF FAT I DONT KNOW)
so training and cardio dont come into it at all? bullshit


Posted by: Maynard Keenan

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Originally Posted by KarlW
Yeah but you will lose weight, so long as sitting on your arse is what you've always done.
OH ITS TRUE....... ITS TRUE


Posted by: stu21Ldn

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Originally Posted by KarlW
Yeah but you will lose weight, so long as sitting on your arse is what you've always done.
the point im trying to make is that diet is not the only factor in weight loss


Posted by: KarlW

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AGREES 3500 CALORIES IS 1 LB. EAT 500 LESS A DAY AND IN A WEEK YOULL LOSE A LB. (OF FAT I DONT KNOW)
Not quite true, if you are currently eating maintenance and so not losing or gaining weight then yes. If however,like many you are actually slowly gaining weight cause your'e eating too much even without consciously being on a bulk then you may not lose weight, you'll just slow down or stop putting it on.


Posted by: KarlW

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Originally Posted by stu21Ldn
the point im trying to make is that diet is not the only factor in weight loss
agreed.


Posted by: Maynard Keenan

It Depends If Your An Ecto, Meso Or Endomorph. If You Want To Get Down To The Nitty Gritty.


Posted by: stu21Ldn

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Originally Posted by Maynard Keenan
It Depends If Your An Ecto, Meso Or Endomorph. If You Want To Get Down To The Nitty Gritty.
along with other factors including your skeletal muscle mass and your base metabolic rate


Posted by: Maynard Keenan

But Of Course......and In My Case How Much Herb I Smoke A Week. Lol


Posted by: ST240

?!?! theres a formula between the amount of calories you intake and your weight?? how does this work exactly?

please tell me what this formula is cuz i am having one hell of a time gaining weight that isnt food in my stomach.


Posted by: Mudge

ST240 its called BMR, then you factor in your activity rate. Start Here

3500 calories is about a pound of FAT, 1800 calories for about a pound of MUSCLE. Does that factor in water weight, or pure muscle alone - I dont know.

If I drop 1000 calories from my daily diet, I will lose way more than 1 pound a week, no doubt about it. Water weight shifts quickly, if I miss one meal (~650 calories right now) I will lose .5-1.0 pounds.


Posted by: LW83

Although I understand what Mudge is saying, I must be confused on the phrasing of the first post.

There's no conversion. Energy does not equal mass.

I could show you 1,000 different ways to make up 3,500calories and they would all weigh different amounts.

You are disregarding digestion and the many other processes in your body that will vary in their caloric needs.


Posted by: Mudge

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Originally Posted by LW83
You are disregarding digestion and the many other processes in your body that will vary in their caloric needs.
We could get into thermogenic foods (foods that when digested raise body temperature), Chris Aceto covers this in his fat loss book. Fat requires virtually no energy to digest and then store, carbs require some depending what they are, then there is protein which is even more thermogenic, and then there are negative calorie foods and things like hot peppers.

But, these are all things that get more complex. I am talking about slicing a pound of fat off your ass, it will give you about 3500 calories. Take off a pound of muscle, it will give you about 1800 calories worth of heat in a lab setting. How we all arrive there wont always be the same, but BMR and factored activity level will help you get there. Tweaking your diet and such, is outside of the scope of the TRAINING FORUM, so why this thread is even here I dont know


Posted by: Dale Mabry

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Originally Posted by Mudge
Tweaking your diet and such, is outside of the scope of the TRAINING FORUM, so why this thread is even here I dont know

Good catch, you should move this thread and ban anyone who posted in it.


Posted by: LW83

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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
and ban anyone who posted in it.

Dale wants to be banned


Posted by: westb51

Quote:
Originally Posted by LW83
Energy does not equal mass.
energy = mass X acceleration



Posted by: LW83

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
I am talking about slicing a pound of fat off your ass, it will give you about 3500 calories. Take off a pound of muscle, it will give you about 1800 calories worth of heat in a lab setting. How we all arrive there wont always be the same, but BMR and factored activity level will help you get there. Tweaking your diet and such, is outside of the scope of the TRAINING FORUM, so why this thread is even here I dont know

Why is a pound of fat not 4082.3 calories, and a pound of muscle 1814

453.5924g/1lb
9calories/g of fat
4calories/g of protein.
Water excluded


Posted by: LW83

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Originally Posted by westb51
energy = mass X acceleration

bastard.


Posted by: Maynard Keenan

Quote:
Originally Posted by ST240
?!?! theres a formula between the amount of calories you intake and your weight?? how does this work exactly?

please tell me what this formula is cuz i am having one hell of a time gaining weight that isnt food in my stomach.
your weight devided by 2.205 multiplyed by 30.4


Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally Posted by LW83
Why is a pound of fat not 4082.3 calories, and a pound of muscle 1814
No clue, thats just how I've seen it. Maybe there is a damn lot of cell structure in the subject that was used, or who knows I remember 454g per pound though thanks to Mac n Cheese boxes


Posted by: Trusted Employe

say you are maintaining your weight eating 3000 calories a day, if you then for 1 week only eat 2500 you will loose a pound


Posted by: stu21Ldn

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trusted Employe
say you are maintaining your weight eating 3000 calories a day, if you then for 1 week only eat 2500 you will loose a pound
its not as simple as that there are too many other factors


Posted by: JoeR.

I think this is all pointless, but to add to this confusion:

If you could actually just straight burn off fat, it would take 454 grams which is 4086 cals of pure fat. So I guess it would be safe to say in order to burn 1 pound of fat off in a week you must burn more than 4000 calories more than you take in for the week. Problably need some overhead there because the chances of just straight burning off fat and not glycogen aren't good.


Posted by: L Armstrong

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Posted by: ST240

how does that BMR thing work when people have varying metabolisms.

using my weight of 70 kg my bmr was around 1600 cal
me being moderately active (1.55) and adding the max amount 600 for weight gain yielded 3100 cals.

man i need a hellllllllll of a lot more than that. i donno if i even have gained body fat ever. i remember this one time when i pounded 2 mass gainer shakes (1000cal 253carb 53protein) ON TOP of my "diet" per day for a month and a bit. but i got a gut.... didnt really gain quality mass. maybe i just have shitty genetics.... ah well.

can anyone post their stats (weight/height) and what their daily intake needs to be to gain weight?



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