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Do you give advice at the gym?

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Posted by: vegman

I have seen so many people using such bad form, and I want to say something but I never do because I don't want to offend them. Have you ever given advice?

Posted by: Vieope

I laugh and roll my eyes while wishing they break a bone and never walk again.

Posted by: ihateschoolmt

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Originally Posted by vegman

I have seen so many people using such bad form, and I want to say something but I never do because I don't want to offend them. Have you ever given advice?

I would, but the people at my gym wouldn't listen.

Posted by: Robin Hood

I give advice if the person looks like they'd accept it. I'm a woman, so if its another female and she clearly doesn't know what she is doing, I'm more than happy to help her out. Men are a bit less likely to accept weight lifting advice from a woman.

Posted by: PreMier

No, because they are obviously smarter, and dont need to listen.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

I would, but the people at my gym wouldn't listen.

That's probably every gym.

Posted by: musclepump

I let guys do their thing. Ego always clouds the attempt at help.

Posted by: CursedOne

i found that 99% of the time people dont want unsolicited advice, they think that those 135 pound back curls they are doing in their hour long bicep routine are the golden road to bigness. if someone asks me i always i give what pointers i can.

Posted by: Robert D.

only if asked, I am not one to give out unsolicited advice, especially if I do not know them.

Posted by: Du

Ive given RobertDiMaggio lifting advice at the gym. He is the only one will listen.

Posted by: Vince2005

I only give advice to people I know and only if I know there gonna listen.

Posted by: mrguy

Nope!

It's none of my business why people do what they do...

I don't want advice and I don't give it.

I especially don't want advice from some one who is really not built enough to be giving it.

Besides, I can't hear a damn thing with Metallica blasting in my head phones anyway!!

Now, if Arnold, Zane Grey, Dave Draper or one of those types of people came in and started offering advice, I'd be all ears!!

Posted by: Flex

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Originally Posted by vegman

I have seen so many people using such bad form, and I want to say something but I never do because I don't want to offend them. Have you ever given advice?

I do to my little high school kids, cuz they just don't know the whole ropes yet. I try to teach them proper form and the mind to muscle thing, cuz i would've greatly appreciated if someone would've done that for me when i started. instead, i had a few years of not quite "wasted" training, but not nearly "maximized" training either.

then of course there's the douchebags that throw on way too much weight and have no idea what they're doing. those guys i get a feeling of hatred and pity for. i think i hate them b/c they all think their the shit for loading up the bar. but hell, i could 3-inch squat 750lbs to their 400. i feel pity b/c these poor lost souls will be doing the same half ass exercizes with the same weight and have the same physiques till they quit bodybuilding due to frustration.

Posted by: Flex

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Originally Posted by Flex

then of course there's the douchebags that throw on way too much weight and have no idea what they're doing. those guys i get a feeling of hatred and pity for. i think i hate them b/c they all think their the shit for loading up the bar. but hell, i could 3-inch squat 750lbs to their 400. i feel pity b/c these poor lost souls will be doing the same half ass exercizes with the same weight and have the same physiques till they quit bodybuilding due to frustration.

i don't help these guys, and try to avoid them as much as possible.
Actually I refrain myself from killing them (which i guess you could call "help"

Posted by: PreMier

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Originally Posted by mrguy

I especially don't want advice from some one who is really not built enough to be giving it.

Just becase someone isnt built, doesnt mean they dont know anything. Take Arnold for instance. He thinks you can build your 'upper' chest. He obviously knows nothing about human physiology.

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Now, if Arnold, Zane Grey, Dave Draper or one of those types of people came in and started offering advice, I'd be all ears!!

See above. These guys are oldschool, and even though they were big, they werent the sharpest tools in the shed.

Posted by: Flex

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Originally Posted by PreMier

Just becase someone isnt built, doesnt mean they dont know anything. Take Arnold for instance. He thinks you can build your 'upper' chest. He obviously knows nothing about human physiology.

So do i

Posted by: PreMier

Im not debating you, go away!

Posted by: DamnHardGainer

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Originally Posted by PreMier

See above. These guys are oldschool, and even though they were big, they werent the sharpest tools in the shed.

Especially Arnold. He's such a dumbass it's a wonder how he became so successful in life. Reknown for being a shrewd businessman and investor? Luck! And as for becoming governor of the most populous state in the union, I guess everyone in California are idiots too for electing him. Wow, what a moron he is.

Posted by: soxmuscle

If you were judging solely on his Bodybuilding encyclopedia, you would think he was a dumbass.

Posted by: ChrisROCK

I have on a few occassions...but it totally depends on the person in need. I once saw an older guy attempting to squat, and he was using the squat rack wrong, and really really risking injury...so I asked him if he minded some advise...and he said "YES, PLEASE". I've also given females advice on multiple occassions when they clearly looked like they wanted and needed it.

Posted by: Flex

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Originally Posted by DamnHardGainer

Jealousy does breed hatred

Posted by: X Ring

Chris I got some advice for you!!! Send that smoking woman in your sig over this way!!

I will give advice and criticism to my little brother until his ears bleed, but other than that I dont say much, unless I see some young kid (appearing to be under 14 or so) doing something that is sure to cause injury.

It just doesnt seem to be worth the time or effort to try to help others regardless of how good your intentions are. I welcome it on my my form b/c it helps me stay strict

Posted by: rockgazer69

i would really appreciate it if someone were truly being helpful. i don't see y anyone would be offended.

Posted by: Robert D.

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Originally Posted by DamnHardGainer

lmao, yeah he is a real idiot.

Posted by: QuestionGuy

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Originally Posted by DamnHardGainer

you have a moron name also mothersucker! what the fuck you talking shit for anyways, you are in a bodybuilding forum and arnold is the greates bodybuilder in the world...so shut the fuck up asshole, i dont like you, i dont like you at all hillbilly

Posted by: seven11

hey hardgainer.... i shit in your momas shoes so she thinks those are nikes

hahahah

Posted by: seven11

and no i dont give advise because nobody listens to me anyways

Posted by: QuestionGuy

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Originally Posted by seven11

hey hardgainer.... i shit in your momas shoes so she thinks those are nikes

hahahah

it just doesnt sound right, dont translate jokes form other languages it just doesnt work

Posted by: seven11

its still funny so shut tha fuck up

Posted by: crazy_enough

pffffff, Ive been "burnt" enough just trying to give my wife some advice, screw strangers...(not litteraly of course! pervs!)

Seriously, unsollicited advice is never kewl to give or receive. I would hate to be annoyed in the middle of a set, so I try to offer the same courtesy! Now the gym I go to has recently opened and there are a big time newbies in there, and little staff (mostly long time, knowledgeable BBers train there) so Its always funny to catch a glimpse of some kid, watching u, then trying to replicate after ur done.

Posted by: Yunier

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Originally Posted by PreMier

No, because they are obviously smarter, and dont need to listen.

Yeah. People at the gym KNOW everything so I don't bother.

Also, when I lift I put my headphones on and turn my MP3 player next to the max. I am such a state that a bomb can go off outside I won't lose focus. So I care two shit about people when I lift.

Posted by: vegman

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Originally Posted by DamnHardGainer

I think that is sarcasm, at least I hope it is.

Posted by: CancerNV

Ive been going to a gym for 4 months now and a few people have given me tips. One of them is that benching thing you do after your skull crusher while keeping elbows in...

Anyway I appreciate all the advice I can get.

Posted by: ponyboy

I give advice because I work there and if I see someone doing something wrong I think it's my job to help them out. I don't have to worry about annoying anyone because they all know I work there and they have seen me train myself as well as others.

Posted by: mrguy

If somebody asks for advice, that is one thing. If you walk up to someone and start giving advice when not asked that is another.

People might think I don't benches well or don't push enough weight, what they don't know is my shoulder is jacked up and I can't do normal benches no matter how much I want to. I've also got jacked up knees so there are certain leg excerises I can not do. I had one trainer giving me all kinds of leg advice even though I told him I can not do hacks. They really hurt my knees and will put me out of commission if I try them. He kept trying to tell me about low weight and perfect form won't bother them. Sorry, just bending down bothers them. That is how I jacked them up in the first place. The funny thing is the guy giving me the advice had legs half my size.

That is my biggest problem with people giving me advice that I did not ask for. They don't know my body or the injuries that I have to live with.

Posted by: CaptainDeadlift

Like RD said, I give advice only if asked.

Posted by: Jay-Budaman

I will only try to give advice if someone looks like they're in serious danger of hurting themselves or someone else. Right after winter break when the new years body builders come in is usually when this becomes a problem.

Posted by: Yunier

On the flip side of the coin when I first started to lift my Squat and Deadlifts forms were horrible. Lucky for me, some older powerlifters came over and said kid this is how you squad and deadlift. They gave me honest advice before I got injured and I thank them for that. Ever since then, I can't do the close squats...My stance has to be wide but it has worked well for me. And I thank em for teaching me and making my legs my strong point.

Posted by: Missfit4all

If i were a gym trainer, (Best damn Job in the World in my Opinion!!!!!) I would smile

and get to know them by their 1st names and wave hello.

B4 U know it, i know them and their goals and available 2 help out...if they ask?

However....using Weights in the wrong way could hurt 1 and we don't want that?

so i would would step up 2 the plate and kindly Guide with a smile.

Posted by: Velvet

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

only if asked, I am not one to give out unsolicited advice, especially if I do not know them.

Ditto!

Posted by: DamnHardGainer

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Originally Posted by Flex

Jealousy does breed hatred

Indeed. Which would explain you and your cohorts' disdain for the greatest ever.

Posted by: DamnHardGainer

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

lmao, yeah he is a real idiot.

LOL! I know what you mean. Kind of like the people in this thread who can't recognize sarcasm for the life of them.

Here's some context to catch up on: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=44851

Posted by: CowPimp

No, but man am I tempted to sometime. I always want to say, "Stop wearing that damned belt your entire workout!"

Another one that crossed my mind this morning in the gym, "Why are you doing one armed preacher wrist curls when you are obviously flabby, out of shape, and have no experience with resistance training. Go squat."

Posted by: Kracin

sometimes advice is unwanted, but in other cases like mine. id be glad to receive advice from someone who actually knows what they are doing, im all ears if its going to help me out, even if they stopped me in the middle of a set to tell me what i was doing wrong and how to correct it. as long as its knowledgeable information that truly will help then im fine with it and all the better to know sooner.

Posted by: CowPimp

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Originally Posted by Kracin

sometimes advice is unwanted, but in other cases like mine. id be glad to receive advice from someone who actually knows what they are doing, im all ears if its going to help me out, even if they stopped me in the middle of a set to tell me what i was doing wrong and how to correct it. as long as its knowledgeable information that truly will help then im fine with it and all the better to know sooner.

You're more open minded than most. It's hard to discern whether or not the person advising is actually knowledgeable about what they speak of though.

Posted by: BiggerNstronger

I give NO advice unless asked, even to the Mrs. I have seen a few things that I wanted to SCREAM about in my gym. One day i was riding the stationary bike and I was watching this old guy go from machine to machine. He stood there stairing at the incline bench (picture this in your mind) and instead of sitting on it correctly so he could do an incline bench he sat on it FACING backwards with the seat half crammed up his butt-crack and was attemting to some sort of military press....and the actual military press machine was RIGHT NEXT to him!

Posted by: LAM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

No, but man am I tempted to sometime. I always want to say, "Stop wearing that damned belt your entire workout!"

that shit kills me. especially when I see people wearing a belt doing leg extensions.

wearing a belt all the time is the BEST way to create a weak spot in your low back

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by LAM

wearing a belt all the time is the BEST way to create a weak spot in your low back

My brother in law used to wear wrist wraps 24/7 in the 70's, never took them off.
He now has weak wrists and I am guessing the wraps were the cause.

Posted by: Machher

naw im to shy lol

Posted by: westb51

i advise people to not drop the dumbbells.

Posted by: ihateschoolmt

I hate when people give wrong advice.

Posted by: Cardinal

I rarely give advise. If anyone asks me specifically, I tell the the simplest possible thing that will likely work.

I have found that most people I train with have fairly logical reasons for doing things the way they do and are relatively happy with their progress. They aren't necessarily that strong (nor am I), but tend to have a good work ethic and are quite dedicated. Of course a lot of the gym-goers I train with play college ball, so the situation is a tad bit different.

Posted by: BabsieGirl

Only if asked.

Posted by: sgtneo

i have seen loads of kids usually with bad form and just generally making beginners mistakes but i never want to say anything as most people are likely to take offence from it, me i love critique as i know i will only improve from it.

Posted by: KentDog

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Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

I hate when people give wrong advice.

Yeah, I dislike this too and see it every once in a while.

I know when I was first starting to lift, actually for probably the first year or so, I had been doing certain lifts incorrectly (or not with the best form) myself so I definately appreciate getting lifting advice. However, this goes back to how I don't like to socialize when I'm at the gym, so if you give me advice, don't expect me to talk with you all the time

Posted by: Maynard Keenan

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Originally Posted by PreMier

No, because they are obviously smarter, and dont need to listen.

I agree with premier on this one. We are far superior.

Posted by: Pizzer

I tried giving out advice for a little while here and there, but then I just said screw it... I wouldnt want it unless I asked for it, so why would anyone else.

But lately I have had alot of guys and girls asking me how to do certain movements correctly and where I got my workout from...

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