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Posted by: DDan16

an owner of a local nutrition store gave me 2 bottles of dhea that he didnt need. do you think its worth it to run dhea with a 1ad cycle for increased test levels. would there be any difference between a 1ad cycle with dhea and without?


Posted by: Prince

no.


Posted by: redspy

Don't bother with DHEA, 4-AD (transdermal) is a better option.


Posted by: seven11

ddan16 arent you like 15... if yes then u shouldnt even think bout using any of that stuff


Posted by: musclepump

Give it five years, and when the stuff is good and expired, then think about using it.


Posted by: LAM

1-AD @ 15. WTF is wrong with these kids ?


Posted by: musclepump

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Originally Posted by LAM
1-AD @ 15. WTF is wrong with these kids ?
They want big guns like you brother... they don't mind the limp dick or closed plates!


Posted by: Tha Don

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Originally Posted by musclepump
They want big guns like you brother... they don't mind the limp dick or closed plates!
lol exactly, WTF is wrong with them, don't they realise how stupid they are gonna look when they get the girl of their dreams in bed and then they can't get it up!


Posted by: gococksDJS

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Originally Posted by LAM
1-AD @ 15. WTF is wrong with these kids ?
he has run several PH cycles in the past and even though everyone warns him of the possible side effects, he thinks if he can't see any sides, then there arent any sides.


Posted by: DDan16

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Originally Posted by gococksDJS
he has run several PH cycles in the past and even though everyone warns him of the possible side effects, he thinks if he can't see any sides, then there arent any sides.
come on man, lets not jump on me again..

ive run a single 1ad cycle, and i know of the possible side effects.

but i personally belive that if taken correctly, i will not be harmed.

i eat right, i lift hard, i take 1ad and i treat it with respect because i know what it does and what it can do so i use it to my advantage.

i dont get stupid with it, i dont get cocky with it, i use it correctly and i dont think there is anything wrong with it.


Posted by: gococksDJS

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Originally Posted by DDan16
come on man, lets not jump on me again..

ive run a single 1ad cycle, and i know of the possible side effects.

but i personally belive that if taken correctly, i will not be harmed.

i eat right, i lift hard, i take 1ad and i treat it with respect because i know what it does and what it can do so i use it to my advantage.

i dont get stupid with it, i dont get cocky with it, i use it correctly and i dont think there is anything wrong with it.
no offense bro but you are very wrong and are getting stupid when taking 1-AD at the age of 16.Your test levels have not peaked yet, and despite what you think, you are not done growing, and when you provide your body with an exogenous hormone, you are disrupting your HPTA, which, like I said earlier, have not peaked yet. You are taking a big gamble messing with PH/AAS's at such a young age. You don't have to listen to everyone who is telling you to be careful, and I seriously doubt you will, but diet and training can not stop the potentially permanent side effects that can come with anabolic use at your age. You aren't playing it smart or being cautious, so don't tell others that you are.


Posted by: Tha Don

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Originally Posted by DDan16
i personally belive that if taken correctly, i will not be harmed.
so what part of 'do not take if under the age of 21' don't you understand?

you are not taking them correctly or safely, you are abusing them at a very young age and setting yourself up for all sorts of long-term damage, at 15 you shouldn't even be lifting weights let alone running steroids! (i don't know if its the same over there, but in the UK kids under the age of 16 are not even allowed in gyms, so a 15 year old running anabolics is ridiculous!)


Posted by: SlimShady

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Originally Posted by gococksDJS
no offense bro but you are very wrong and are getting stupid when taking 1-AD at the age of 16.Your test levels have not peaked yet, and despite what you think, you are not done growing, and when you provide your body with an exogenous hormone, you are disrupting your HPTA, which, like I said earlier, have not peaked yet. You are taking a big gamble messing with PH/AAS's at such a young age. You don't have to listen to everyone who is telling you to be careful, and I seriously doubt you will, but diet and training can not stop the potentially permanent side effects that can come with anabolic use at your age. You aren't playing it smart or being cautious, so don't tell others that you are.
Cocks is 100% right on the money! You should listen to him, cause he knows his shit. You got more natural test flowing through your veins right now than anyone here. Take advantage of it, don't fuck it up.


Posted by: DDan16

i dont really know what to say, i mean i guess it just comes down to how it is my personal belief that if used responsibly i wont be harmed. i mean i wont sit here and tell you stupid shit like "im a hard gainer", i started benching 105 max in the middle of freshman year, and by the end of summer going into sophmore year i was benching 200 for reps, so i know i can do it without the 1ad. it was simply temptation, i saw 2 kids who used it and got bigger, faster then i was doing it, faster then anyone esle and i wanted that too. (even tho they lost there gains in the weeks after cycle because a lack of post cycle therapy) I searched the internet for studies, and proven cases where 1ad posed real threats to a teenagers body, and all i found was speculation and scare tactics, so i went with it and did it. thats all i can say, im not going to argue because its pointless.


Posted by: LAM

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Originally Posted by DDan16
I searched the internet for studies, and proven cases where 1ad posed real threats to a teenagers body, and all i found was speculation and scare tactics, so i went with it and did it. thats all i can say, im not going to argue because its pointless.
there is no medical purpose for pro-hormones or pro-steroids. that's why there are no medical studies on those topics.


Posted by: DDan16

this may be true, but that doest change what lead me to my decision.. i dont regret it.


Posted by: Tha Don

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Originally Posted by DDan16
i dont regret it.
haha, you say that now! give it a few years.. "why was i so stupid? why didn't i listen to young D? i have no balls left now and i haven't had an erection since i was 15!"




Posted by: SlimShady

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Originally Posted by DDan16
this may be true, but that doest change what lead me to my decision.. i dont regret it.
Whats done is done man. Don't worry about it now. If you want to do some gear, then wait till you get a little older. Here is the thing about PH's - most guys who make claims to huge gains from PHs also went on their first good bulk during the cycle. They brag that "I gained 25 lbs from PHs", but they forget that they also ate 4000 calories for the 1st time in their lives. So how much of the gains were from the bulking? ... No one ever says, cause no one knows.

You are at the perfect age for BBing. You have a ton of natural test in your veins now. It is like your body naturally produces it's own gear! .. If you start messing around with PHs, you run the risk of shutting it all down. Will that hurt you? No one knows. It might not, but why risk it? Eat huge, lift huge and get huge. You will be in your twenties before you know it, and you got a whole lifetime to mess with gear.


Posted by: brogers

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Originally Posted by young d
haha, you say that now! give it a few years.. "why was i so stupid? why didn't i listen to young D? i have no balls left now and i haven't had an erection since i was 15!"
Maybe he wouldn't listen because all he gets is stupid comments like this?


Posted by: Tha Don

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Originally Posted by brogers
Maybe he wouldn't listen because all he gets is stupid comments like this?
stupid comment? how is it a stupid comment.. i was being dead serious! so you think that fucking around with AS at 15 is a good idea? hes a stupid kid maybe he will understand the stupid comments coz we all gave him legitimate advice and he ignored it, disrespecting me and all of the other PH/steroid experts on this forum, we are trying to help the kid unlike idiots like you


Posted by: DDan16

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Originally Posted by young d
stupid comment? how is it a stupid comment.. i was being dead serious! so you think that fucking around with AS at 15 is a good idea? hes a stupid kid maybe he will understand the stupid comments coz we all gave him legitimate advice and he ignored it, disrespecting me and all of the other PH/steroid experts on this forum, we are trying to help the kid unlike idiots like you
your not a very nice person.. ive never fucked around with steroids. what the heck are you talking about dude, what advice? you must have me mixed up with someone esle! when i started posting here, i was already into my first cycle! you are the one who is disrespecting me! i never did anything to you!

i never ignored anyone, ive taken in all the advice ive gotten and used it. as far as dieting and training is concerned i know what im doing.. as for the PHs i was allready a week and a half into my cycle before i started posting here so you dont know what you are talking about!


Posted by: brogers

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Originally Posted by young d
stupid comment? how is it a stupid comment.. i was being dead serious! so you think that fucking around with AS at 15 is a good idea? hes a stupid kid maybe he will understand the stupid comments coz we all gave him legitimate advice and he ignored it, disrespecting me and all of the other PH/steroid experts on this forum, we are trying to help the kid unlike idiots like you
It wasn't stupid? Telling him he's "not gonna have any balls" because of a 1-AD Cycle is "advice"? Please dude. People are smart and they will discount your retarded "advice" (insults) as nothing more than mindless bullshit.

Also, your ridiculous grammar makes you look like a 12 year old.

Calling me an idiot for pointing out how stupid you sound? Another intelligent remark from an obviously intelligent person. I didn't say using a PH at 15 was wise, I never made any comments regarding it at all. I don't see how I'm the idiot, when I'm not the one spewing out propaganda-style misinformation that is more exagerrated than my 9th grade health class


Posted by: NEW_IN_THE_GAME

i used to think bout andro, but no way to many bad sides. i stick with creatine, aminos, methoxy, ecdy, ipra, stuff like that, and my doctor ok's all this. and does checks on my kidneys and stuff . but i would stay away. just these supps, 2 gals of water a day and alot of good food. i cant supp like i used to cause i am in job corps but i get by. even though i might be done growing since i am 6'5 and i am 17, but i will not even try em.


Posted by: Tha Don

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Originally Posted by brogers
It wasn't stupid? Telling him he's "not gonna have any balls" because of a 1-AD Cycle is "advice"? Please dude. People are smart and they will discount your retarded "advice" (insults) as nothing more than mindless bullshit.

Also, your ridiculous grammar makes you look like a 12 year old.

Calling me an idiot for pointing out how stupid you sound? Another intelligent remark from an obviously intelligent person. I didn't say using a PH at 15 was wise, I never made any comments regarding it at all. I don't see how I'm the idiot, when I'm not the one spewing out propaganda-style misinformation that is more exagerrated than my 9th grade health class
do you have a fucking clue what steroids do? they provide your body with synthetic hormones which mimick (or in some cases replace) you bodies own testosterone production, therefore suppressing natural test production, suppressing natural test results in shrunken testicles! its not "mindless bullshit" the concequences of steroids are REAL

ridiculous grammar? please enlighten us!


Posted by: Tha Don

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Originally Posted by NEW_IN_THE_GAME
i used to think bout andro, but no way to many bad sides. i stick with creatine, aminos, methoxy, ecdy, ipra, stuff like that, and my doctor ok's all this. and does checks on my kidneys and stuff . but i would stay away. just these supps, 2 gals of water a day and alot of good food. i cant supp like i used to cause i am in job corps but i get by. even though i might be done growing since i am 6'5 and i am 17, but i will not even try em.
glad to hear that bro! stay smart


Posted by: DDan16

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Originally Posted by young d
do you have a fucking clue what steroids do? they provide your body with synthetic hormones which mimick (or in some cases replace) you bodies own testosterone production, therefore suppressing natural test production, suppressing natural test results in shrunken testicles! its not "mindless bullshit" the concequences of steroids are REAL

ridiculous grammar? please enlighten us!
i never took anabolic steroids! i know what steroids do, i dont know everything, but i dont pretend to. the consequences of steroids, yes.. are real. the consequences of gear and PHs like 1ad however are very different and you should know that.



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