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Fisting anyone?


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Posted by: John H.

Has anyone been fisted or been into fisting?

It can be a tremendous variation - IF - you know what to do. YOU MUST KNOW all about it BEFORE you ever even think about going through with it. You could end up being killed or killing someone. It is said that the most tremendous orgasms result in this form of Sex-play.

There are books available on this subject.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: ihateschoolmt

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
Has anyone been fisted or been into fisting?
Um....no.


Posted by: John H.

Here is information about one title I am aware of:

ANAL PLEASURE AND HEALTH: A GUIDE FOR MEN AND WOMEN, by Jack Morin, 275 pages, 3rd edition, ISBN: 0940208202.

Other titles available are at Amazon.com

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: crazy_enough

Its not for me, but I do know people who enjoy it.
I dont think its devient or weird, I mean, since the beginning of time, people have been sticking whatever they manage to fit up any orifice in their bodies, whether for sexual purposes or not...I personaly dont find erotism in any way shape or form in that practice.


Posted by: I Are Baboon

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
It is said that the most tremendous orgasms result in this form of Sex-play.
Yeah, maybe if you're a friggin retard.


Posted by: rockgazer69



see if this will fit. or maybe you can just use it to poke your guts back up in.

okay let's vote who on im is the most likely to have had to have a dr. remove something from his rectum?


Posted by: Shae

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69


see if this will fit. or maybe you can just use it to poke your guts back up in.

okay let's vote who on im is the most likely to have had to have a dr. remove something from his rectum?
Sheesh! Who has the crab in her panties now?


Posted by: musclepump

ew


Posted by: craig777

I can't even imagine, nor would I want to, having someone cram their fist up my ass.


Posted by: bio-chem

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69


see if this will fit. or maybe you can just use it to poke your guts back up in.

okay let's vote who on im is the most likely to have had to have a dr. remove something from his rectum?
not much of a vote when only john boy is running for that coveted title. ewwww.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy_enough
Its not for me, but I do know people who enjoy it.
I dont think its devient or weird, I mean, since the beginning of time, people have been sticking whatever they manage to fit up any orifice in their bodies, whether for sexual purposes or not...I personaly dont find erotism in any way shape or form in that practice.
Hi Crazy,

There IS NO DAMN WAY I WOULD DO THIS WITH SOMEONE WHO IS NOT C L E A N A N D H E A L T H Y!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But IT IS - TRULY - a manner of expressing to someone you TRULY CARE ABOUT and getting to the "heart of your feelings and theirs"....

I CAN NOT IMAGINE someone doing this with a "casual acqaintance" or someone they bearly know. This is RESERVED for those you TRULY CARE ABOUT and THEY YOU. In MY OPINION>



Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69


see if this will fit. or maybe you can just use it to poke your guts back up in.

okay let's vote who on im is the most likely to have had to have a dr. remove something from his rectum?

Rock,

If you are hinting at me you would BE VERY WRONG. In fact YOU COULD NOT BE - MORE - WRONG.

(Where's that "cross icon"? I can't find it. AND I want to use it)

John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by craig777
I can't even imagine, nor would I want to, having someone cram their fist up my ass.

Hi Craig,

There have been others who thought the very same thing UNTIL they had it done to them by SOMEONE WHO CARES ABOUT THEM TRUTHFULLY. You never forget it and never want to. And always want this aspect and variation BECAUSE IT WORKS.

There IS a period of learning and getting used-to but once you become "fine" with it in your mind YOU TRULY UNDERSTAND. And APPRECIATE IT being done to you.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: Pepper

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
Hi Crazy,

There IS NO DAMN WAY I WOULD DO THIS WITH SOMEONE WHO IS NOT C L E A N A N D H E A L T H Y!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But IT IS - TRULY - a manner of expressing to someone you TRULY CARE ABOUT and getting to the "heart of your feelings and theirs"....

I CAN NOT IMAGINE someone doing this with a "casual acqaintance" or someone they bearly know. This is RESERVED for those you TRULY CARE ABOUT and THEY YOU. In MY OPINION>



Take Care, John H.



Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Are Baboon
Yeah, maybe if you're a friggin retard.
Hi I,

I would TOTALLY AGREE with you IF the person was doing this with someone they barely know, a person that is UNhealthy, a person that is UNclean... And with a person you are "just using" - THAT would BE the ULTIMATE in DISRESPECT AND DISHONOR to someone - I CAN ABSOLUTELY ASSURE YOU I DO NOT NEVER USE PEOPLE - in ANY way, shape, or form EVER!!!

This aspect or variation of Sex can be just as SACRED as any other form or variation WITH SOMEONE YOU TRULY CARE ABOUT AND THEY YOU. SEX IS SACRED AND HONORABLE.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepper
Hi Pepper,

I can TRULY UNDERSTAND that (the icon). IF like some you have never tried this aspect. It DOES take getting used to but the end results ARE TREMENDOUS.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

This aspect or variation of Sex DOES take getting prepared for - mentally and physically and emotionally and spiritually. Like anything worthwile you MUST WORK FOR IT.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: rockgazer69

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
Rock,

If you are hinting at me you would BE VERY WRONG. In fact YOU COULD NOT BE - MORE - WRONG.

(Where's that "cross icon"? I can't find it. AND I want to use it)

John H.
any smilies you want or any other pic just right click n save to your pc then host w imageshack when you want to post them. here's the other.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69
any smilies you want or any other pic just right click n save to your pc then host w imageshack when you want to post them. here's the other.
Rock,

I ADMIT IT - I am a computer dummy.

Ya've got to walk me through that - I sounds Greek to me.

Sorry....

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: rockgazer69

put your pointer over what you want to save and right click. select save image as. it will open files on your pc. make a new folder in pictures called smilies and open it then click save. try that with this cross icon n tell me when you get that far. i'll wait.


Posted by: rockgazer69

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
Greek
me.




Take Care, John H.
sorry i couldn't resist.


Posted by: rockgazer69

once you have pictures saved on your pc. you go here. http://imageshack.us/ hit the button that says browse and a box will open where you can select the right folder on your pc, open it and click on the pic you want to use. doing that will load the code for it into the bar by the browse button. then you hit host it. wait a few seconds depending on the speed of your pc n a new page will open. highlight and copy the bar that says hotlink for forums one. then all you have to do is paste that in your reply box.


Posted by: rockgazer69

it's extremely simple don't let the directions make you think it's complicated. our banter should get even more interesting now


Posted by: Muscle_Girl

Ok, well I defended ya on the last one, but this one is plainly stupid. You have been watching way too many pornos. I can't even get more than 2 fingers up there myself lol.


Posted by: rockgazer69

up where? i think john is talking the pooper.


Posted by: Muscle_Girl

Ohh. lol, Well I dont know about that, but that makes it even more stupid! Never tried fingering my ass.. sorry, not my thing.


Posted by: maniclion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepper
So Pep, are you saying your into vomitorium orgies?


Posted by: maniclion

I'm not one to put down peoples sexuality, but this one leaves you all stretched out and no fun for regular sex, I'd hate to have to fuck a woman who been taking fists for a while, it'd be like throwing a sausage down a hallway.


Posted by: crazy_enough

Quote:
Originally Posted by maniclion
I'd hate to have to fuck a woman who been taking fists for a while, it'd be like throwing a sausage down a hallway.
OUTSTANDING analogy!!!

Oh my thats funny!


Posted by: Muscle_Girl

Quote:
Originally Posted by maniclion
it'd be like throwing a sausage down a hallway.



Posted by: rock4832

Please tell me John H. how having someone cram their fist up your ass says "I love you"? I'd rather get flowers and some chocolates


Posted by: min0 lee

Look at what I found in John H. gym locker.



Posted by: maniclion

Quote:
Originally Posted by min0 lee
Look at what I found in John H. gym locker.
Nah, his whole glove would be brown according to this thread.


Posted by: min0 lee

Quote:
Originally Posted by maniclion
Nah, his whole glove would be brown according to this thread.
He was baby sitting my puppy.


Posted by: maniclion

Could you imagine the echo when you'd go down on a fisted woman?

Hello Hello Hello Hello


Posted by: Vieope

What about being footed?


Posted by: Shae

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieope
What about being footed?
No dude.

Rather have a dong in me than a hand or foot. That shit is just gross.


Posted by: cappo5150

I came late to this thread, but anyways I've tried fisting only once with this one girl that I met in vegas. I think I could of gotten my entire hand in there but the limo ride was over. I don't think I would try this on someone I was with.

P.S. Remember what happens in vegas stays in vegas.


Posted by: LW83

Quote:
"Fisting anyone?"
Are you CRAZY!?! You can't just fist 'anyone' You have to ask first


Posted by: rockgazer69

lol.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69
sorry i couldn't resist.

Hi Rock,

I understand - ANYTIME!!!

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69
put your pointer over what you want to save and right click. select save image as. it will open files on your pc. make a new folder in pictures called smilies and open it then click save. try that with this cross icon n tell me when you get that far. i'll wait.
Hi Rock,

Sorry I missed ya...

I'll try it.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69
once you have pictures saved on your pc. you go here. http://imageshack.us/ hit the button that says browse and a box will open where you can select the right folder on your pc, open it and click on the pic you want to use. doing that will load the code for it into the bar by the browse button. then you hit host it. wait a few seconds depending on the speed of your pc n a new page will open. highlight and copy the bar that says hotlink for forums one. then all you have to do is paste that in your reply box.
Hi Rock,

Thanks. I'll try it.

On another note that just popped in my head - how do you think it would look for someone to use this as a costume for Halloween?

I'm sorry but I can NEVER take seriously a "religious zealot". It is NOT that I am running THEM down but that THEY ARE THEMSELVES. By their actions. And their extremism. It is so blatant what they do I envision them doing this themselves in their everyday actions. I WISH I did not have to say this...


Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69
it's extremely simple don't let the directions make you think it's complicated. our banter should get even more interesting now

Hi Rockgazer,

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can SEE the "possibilities"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muscle_Girl
Ok, well I defended ya on the last one, but this one is plainly stupid. You have been watching way too many pornos. I can't even get more than 2 fingers up there myself lol.
Hi Muscle_Girl,

It is NOT something you do with EVERYONE and it is NOT something you learn to do "overnight". But the experience WITH SOMEONE WHO TRULY LOVES YOU AND YOU THEM is UNFORGETTABLE. And you are DRAINED - and FILLED - COMPLETELY - after.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by maniclion
So Pep, are you saying your into vomitorium orgies?

Hi Maniclion,

SEE - EVEN Pep is into VARIATION in Sex.

I guess there ARE some who do even that!

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: MTN WARRIOR

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
Hi Rock,

Thanks. I'll try it.

On another note that just popped in my head - how do you think it would look for someone to use this as a costume for Halloween?

I'm sorry but I can NEVER take seriously a "religious zealot". It is NOT that I am running THEM down but that THEY ARE THEMSELVES. By their actions. And their extremism. It is so blatant what they do I envision them doing this themselves in their everyday actions. I WISH I did not have to say this...


Take Care, John H.

You cant take them seriously and you want us to take you seriously? A man who is willing to have another man "he loves" shove a hand up his ass> Are you kidding me you fucking flamer? BTW fisting is for womens vaginas, not mens asses. It is supposed to bring on phenomenal orgasms because of the pressure put on the g-spot (whatever that is).


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by maniclion
I'm not one to put down peoples sexuality, but this one leaves you all stretched out and no fun for regular sex, I'd hate to have to fuck a woman who been taking fists for a while, it'd be like throwing a sausage down a hallway.

Hi Maniclion,

That is true too.

It is kinda like "throwing sausage down a hallway" - you just have to be VERY careful not to "run into the 'walls' TOO hard because it could cause injury or even DEATH to the person. This IS a VERY SENSITIVE place and VERY RESPONSIVE - the "hallway". You take your time - DRIVE THEM COMPLETELY NUTS and BE VERY PASSIONATE AND DELIBERATE in action - which IN ITSELF IS MIND-BLOWING to both involved but ESPECIALLY the "receiver"... The walk down it is TREMENDOUS for BOTH.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rock4832
Please tell me John H. how having someone cram their fist up your ass says "I love you"? I'd rather get flowers and some chocolates
Hi Rock,

If you ever have it done to you or do it to someone you LOVE you will NEVER have to ask this question - TRUST ME. It IS HEAVEN. Now flowers and chocolates are "up there" but not TOTAL HEAVEN.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: maniclion

I'll give you a fisting John H. with these Twins



Is your mouth big enough?


Posted by: rockgazer69

manic these work well on him.


Posted by: bio-chem

john boy just said that it can possibly cause death. personally i think that would be a horrible way to die. or does this post belong on another thread? damn it now im confused. ha ha ha


Posted by: rockgazer69

yes butt according to john h you would already be in heaven when you die.



Posted by: bio-chem

how do you explain that to the authorities?

"well officer it all started out when............"


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by min0 lee
Look at what I found in John H. gym locker.
Hi minO,

Well ya do have to give 'em the "white-glove" test FIRST. NO WAY can they be "dirty" - not for them and not for you. "White cotton gloves" are too abrasive here though and can cause injury and even death. This is an aspect where "sanitary conditions" MUST exist. Once that can be established you work on them very carefully and methodically and your intention and ultimate goal IS to DRIVE THEM COMPLETELY OUT OF THEIR MIND and PASSIONATELY!! This is a VERY erotic area of the body. Mens and Womens. Either can benefit from having this done to them by someone that CARES about them.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by maniclion
Nah, his whole glove would be brown according to this thread.
Hi Maniclion,

Not so. That is why I said you MUST KNOW BEFOREHAND what to do and how to do it. It is NOT something you do with a "casual partner" - you do this with someone that you KNOW and they YOU. And CARE about.

This IS one place where a person MUST DO THEIR "HOMEWORK".

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vieope
What about being footed?
Hi Vieope,

I have never heard of this. I suppose somewhere it happens. But I would think there would BE REAL PROBLEMS here - just the possibility of infection would I hope want anyone to SAY NO to this aspect.

I would think anyone would want to THINK REAL HARD BEFORE they even considered this.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: rockgazer69

people have probably done it. check ogrish.com they'd have um "footage" if it exists. they have some really weird stuff on there.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cappo5150
I came late to this thread, but anyways I've tried fisting only once with this one girl that I met in vegas. I think I could of gotten my entire hand in there but the limo ride was over. I don't think I would try this on someone I was with.

P.S. Remember what happens in vegas stays in vegas.
Hi Cappo,

I saw a film where this was done to a Man by a Man. The film was THE OTHER SIDE OF ASPEN and starred Al Parker. I think Al Parker is the Man that introduced this aspect of Sexuality to the Men who are either BiSexual or Homosexual. In the film it looks as if almost his entire arm is into the Man he is with (at least up to his elbow). And the Man having it done to him seems to be in TOTAL HEAVEN. Al Parker takes his time and is very methodical and has as his intention to drive his Buddy Sexually crazy which he certainly does. Al Parker studied medicine for awhile. He was thinking of becoming a Doctor. He was a smart Man. Very intelligent. So he had a medical background that could help him succeed in this aspect of Human Sexuality.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LW83
Are you CRAZY!?! You can't just fist 'anyone' You have to ask first
Hi Luke,

You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. And HOW you (meaning anyone here) "ask" is in the method you use to get your partner "ready". You stimulate them all over - their ENTIRE body - through VERY SENSUAL body massaging. You (meaning anyone so engaged) end up in the anal region AFTER spending a LOT of time getting their ENTIRE body "prepared" through massaging and caring. There is a term for this: it is called "relaxing" the person about to be entered. You stimulate the anal region outside in a VERY CARING and CAREFUL and PURPOSEFUL way and slowly and carefully begin to enter this area a little at a time paying VERY CLOSE ATTENTION to the responses you receive from your partner. You do NOT FORCE your way into this area but INTRODUCE yourself into this area in a very CARING way. You REASSURE your partner YOU DO LOVE THEM and that BOTH of you WANT this aspect of LOVING each other. As a person gets accustomed to this they do begin to relax and allow entry. This can take a lot of foreplay and practice for both involved and REQUIRES TRUST by ALL involved. It IS a form of "asking first" and can take a lot of "trial and error" on the part of both involved. But anyone CAN SUCCEED. And those that do are ALWAYS DAMN GLAD they did this aspect of Sex and Loving each other.

There are books on this subject readily available. It is PARAMOUNT -ABSOLUTELY SO - that people considering this READ ALL THEY CAN - FIRST - and DISCUSS this totally and openly with their partner. This is NOT something that "takes away from" another, that is, for example, with Men, it DOES NOT make a Man "less that a Man" in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM to have this done to him by another - Male and/or Female.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: Maynard Keenan

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
Has anyone been fisted or been into fisting?

It can be a tremendous variation - IF - you know what to do. YOU MUST KNOW all about it BEFORE you ever even think about going through with it. You could end up being killed or killing someone. It is said that the most tremendous orgasms result in this form of Sex-play.

There are books available on this subject.

Take Care, John H.
What the hell does this mean.....


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MTN WARRIOR
You cant take them seriously and you want us to take you seriously? A man who is willing to have another man "he loves" shove a hand up his ass> Are you kidding me you fucking flamer? BTW fisting is for womens vaginas, not mens asses. It is supposed to bring on phenomenal orgasms because of the pressure put on the g-spot (whatever that is).
Hi Mtn,

Trust me. It IS for BOTH - Men and Women. EACH can AND DO achieve TREMENDOUS ORGASMS from this aspect of Sex. It IS meant for MEN and for WOMEN and CAN be done very successfully by those that CARE ABOUT YOU whether that person be a Man or a Woman.

Phenomenal Orgasms? ABSOLUTELY TRUE - for MEN and for WOMEN. BOTH.


Take Care, John H.


Posted by: rockgazer69

have you ever thought of applying for like a security job at an airport?


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by maniclion
I'll give you a fisting John H. with these Twins



Is your mouth big enough?
Hi Maniclion,

NOT bragging, ONLY saying by way of explanation. When I am with a Lady for example I FEEL this BIG while inside her. And they tell me I AM even before I enter. I let them focus on what THEY focus on and I focus on MY work at hand FOR TOTAL SUCCESS for EACH person involved - Men and/or Women.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: rockgazer69

stop writing stuff and learn how to post pics.


Posted by: rockgazer69

i can't wait to see your posts with illustrations.


Posted by: rockgazer69




Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bio-chem
john boy just said that it can possibly cause death. personally i think that would be a horrible way to die. or does this post belong on another thread? damn it now im confused. ha ha ha
Bio,

It WOULD BE MOST CERTAINLY A HORRIBLE WAY TO DIE.

IT CAN CAUSE THE DEATH OF THE PERSON. ABSOLUTELY. IF - IF - YOU DO NOT KNOW FIRSTHAND WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND HOW TO DO IT PROPERLY. It is VERY easy to violate (injure) the lining, the wall of the anus and this CAN AND DOES cause infection which can KILL. It is also very easy to GO TOO FAR so you have to exercise restraint in passion while doing this or you could (meaning those so involved) KILL the person by rupturing the wall. KNOWING what to do AND HOW TO DO IT IS PARAMOUNT- ABSOLUTELY PARAMOUNT. This is a VERY EROTIC and SENSTIVE area of the body and successfully done BY SOMEONE YOU CARE ABOUT AND THEM YOU AS WELL can bring EXTREME PLEASURE and KNOWING of each other. AND CARING. But you (meaning anyone here) CAN NEVER - NEVER - be reckless or overzealous in the pursuit of this aspect of Sex. A person MUST ALWAYS BE VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE HEALTH AND WELFARE of the person this is being done to. ALL THE TIME. WITHOUT FAIL.

John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69
yes butt according to john h you would already be in heaven when you die.
Hi Rock,

"Yes BUTT".....

This is NOT for the "faint of heart" or "reckless".

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: rockgazer69

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
overzealous in the pursuit of this aspect of Sex.
John H.
fisting zealots?


Posted by: rockgazer69

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
Hi Rock,

"Yes BUTT".....

This is NOT for the "faint of heart" or "reckless".

Take Care, John H.



Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bio-chem
how do you explain that to the authorities?

"well officer it all started out when............"
Bio,

This IS where "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" - YOU MUST ABSOLUTELY - ABSOLUTELY - KNOW - what you are going to do and what you ARE DOING BEFOREHAND. AND WHILE you are doing it!! NEVER EVER try this without KNOWING ABOUT EVERY ASPECT of this variation of Sex. NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And as for the "authorities" - HOW would you FEEL if this ended up this way? I PERSONALLY WOULD BE DESTROYED if I caused harm or the death of someone I LOVE. I WOULD NEVER want that to happen or do anything to cause this in the first place. The "authorities" would be the "easiest" aspect of this IF that happened. I WOULD NEVER WANT THAT FOR SOMEONE I LOVE.

John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maynard Keenan
What the hell does this mean.....
Hi Maynard,

"Fisting" is a sexual variation. A method of having Sex with someone you love (meaning anyone here).

"Fisting" is the act of ultimately putting your entire hand and some of your arm into the anus of your partner stimulating them sexually to achieve an extreme orgasm FOR THEM. This can also cause you too to achieve such an orgasm just by the response of the person you are fisting. You - without even being conscious of it yourself - would be SO INVOLVED in the work "at hand" to your partner you would yourself BE EXTREMELY AROUSED - AIR - EVEN AIR - around you and your "equipment" could cause you to BLOW ENORMOUSLY WHILE SO ENGAGED with the person you are fisting.

This "fisting" involves EXTREME sexual communication between BOTH involved. And trust and care and BEING VERY CAREFUL. YOU MUST KNOW what to do and how to do it BEFOREHAND and EARN the TRUST of EACH person physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, etc.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69
have you ever thought of applying for like a security job at an airport?
Hi Rock,



This is possible BUT: how would you handle the OVERCROWDING at the airports? It is bad enough now. This could be considered a "good form" of "terrorism"

Can you imagine how much better your flight would BE AFTER this "inspection"?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As long as the government could tax us on this as "entertainment" I would think this country would be OUT OF DEBT REAL FAST AND STAY OUT OF DEBT.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69
stop writing stuff and learn how to post pics.
Hi Rock,

I can not myself post pictures.

I CAN tell you that IF you SEE the film THE OTHER SIDE OF ASPEN starring Al Parker (the Male porn star) you would SEE what and how it is done to some extent. It IS very GRAPHIC. AND CARING. But is BETWEEN MEN.

There is another film I saw - I can not remember the name of the film right now (I'll have to try to find out) where one Woman and two Men are having Sex and SHE enters one of the MEN with a dildo however the end result is that BOTH MEN in the film end up having Sex with EACH OTHER VERY PASSIONATELY and she ends up being left out of it all completely. The Men in the film sure seem to CARE HONESTLY about each other during this "exercise".

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69
Hi Rock,

Well I have to say that God Himself must have placed this "idea" into the heads of Human Beings. How else would they have "found out"?

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69
fisting zealots?
Hi Rock,

I WILL say that when people DO get "involved" in this aspect - variation - of Sex they DO tend to BECOME "zealous" - to the point of being RAVENOUS.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69
Hi Rock,

Yes, that TOO. Or "however, however, however" BUT: BUT BUT BUT BUTT - sure sounds better doesn't it?

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

It is said that Men think of Sex every few seconds.

I wonder if this thread proves that theory?

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: rockgazer69

there'd be litte puddles of anal juice on all the seats. you could smell your planes arriving. a mix of splooge and shit. what would they call it? scatt air? cram air?

meanwhile over at rock air 69 all cavity searches will be performed via tongue. we are a fist free airline, enjoy your flight.


Posted by: rockgazer69




Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgazer69
there'd be litte puddles of anal juice on all the seats. you could smell your planes arriving. a mix of splooge and shit. what would they call it? scatt air? cram air?

meanwhile over at rock air 69 all cavity searches will be performed via tongue. we are a fist free airline, enjoy your flight.
Hi Rock,

You have a very "fertile" imagination....

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: LW83

I'm was teasing John. Actually, i find the idea; a turn off


Posted by: fantasma62

Quick answer to the fisting question: Nope.


Posted by: bio-chem

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
Hi Rock,

Well I have to say that God Himself must have placed this "idea" into the heads of Human Beings. How else would they have "found out"?

Take Care, John H.
well john boy with this line of reasoning you have taken away mans ability for cognitave thought. we now have no responsibility for our actions because if all our thoughts originate with God then there is no right or wrong. no such thing as good and evil. now we can see how someone might rationalize sin, all you have to say is there is no such thing as sin and everything we do is fine. eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we die. is that about it john boy? and before you go off on some ridiculous tangeant im not saying anything in relation to fisting. im not making a statement on it being a sin or not.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bio-chem
well john boy with this line of reasoning you have taken away mans ability for cognitave thought. we now have no responsibility for our actions because if all our thoughts originate with God then there is no right or wrong. no such thing as good and evil. now we can see how someone might rationalize sin, all you have to say is there is no such thing as sin and everything we do is fine. eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we die. is that about it john boy? and before you go off on some ridiculous tangeant im not saying anything in relation to fisting. im not making a statement on it being a sin or not.
Bio,

Do you ALWAYS go off the "deep end" about things?

I will say the only reason you are not saying anything about fisting being a "sin" or not is because you want to reserve that thought until after you have "tried it" or "have it tried" on you. I suspect you would be among the first to find a reason to damn just about anything. With regard to this "being sinful" I never heard a word about God saying it was wrong. ABUSING anyone IS WRONG when ABUSE THAT HAS AS ITS "PURPOSE" HARM that is not "agreed to" by ALL involved is the result of such action.

There are many Human Beings that have as their "purpose" to ABUSE someone and I am not talking about a consensual form of abuse.

John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LW83
I'm was teasing John. Actually, i find the idea; a turn off
Hi Luke,

I understand. But it can be a form of LOVING someone COMPLETELY. It takes "preparing oneself" mentally, physically, spiritually, emotionally - but the rewards can be great for all involved. IF YOU HONESTLY CARE FOR EACH OTHER.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: LW83

it still grosses me out


Posted by: devildog88

John, I am new to this board but I have read many of your past posts. I must say that you seem a bit disturbed and misguided. But hell, who am I to judge? We use to have a saying in the gulf.............."kill them all and let God sort them out"! Believe what you want Bro.....just don't try to justify it!


Posted by: LW83

I think most guys would feel that their cock was of in-adequate size if they could stick their whole fist in their girlfreind.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by devildog88
John, I am new to this board but I have read many of your past posts. I must say that you seem a bit disturbed and misguided. But hell, who am I to judge? We use to have a saying in the gulf.............."kill them all and let God sort them out"! Believe what you want Bro.....just don't try to justify it!
Hi Devil,

I am a war veteran - definitely - and I have seen more than I would like. I understand a lot and look at all things from all sides....

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LW83
it still grosses me out
Hi Luke,

I think you just might understand this - I have said before I think God made a mistake when He created Man in that He should have made a Man's cock a Muscle just as with any other Muscle and that there would be tremendous benefits...

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: LW83

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
Hi Luke,

I think you just might understand this - I have said before I think God made a mistake when He created Man in that He should have made a Man's cock a Muscle just as with any other Muscle and that there would be tremendous benefits...

Take Care, John H.

You'd see alot more dudes in the gym, but you'd never want a personal trainer (well at least I wouldn't unless she was cute )


Posted by: devildog88

John,
Let me process this...........you are now Telling us that God makes mistakes?


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LW83
I think most guys would feel that their cock was of in-adequate size if they could stick their whole fist in their girlfreind.
Hi Luke,

Maybe? But someone can not say that about me (by way of explanation, I am 10 5/8" long and 6 1/2" thick when completely hard and not much less when 'normal'). So I can say honestly that would not apply to me at all.

Not saying this to upset anyone AT ALL here. I see what you are saying though. They might see their whole fist or arm as an extension of their cock...
Guys that are EXTREMELY WELL BUILT have 'Two cocks' - that is, one is their entire body EXTREMELY WELL BUILT and the other their Penis as given to them by God. Both CAN and SHOULD work VERY WELL.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: min0 lee




Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LW83
You'd see alot more dudes in the gym, but you'd never want a personal trainer (well at least I wouldn't unless she was cute )
Hi Luke,

I WOULD BET THE FARM MEN - REAL MEN - would BE SO DAMN WELL BUILT they could cause THEMSELVES to pass out in DISBELIEF in what they ACCOMPLISHED - HONESTLY - through HARD WORK. And they WOULD BE TOTALLY HEALTHY - of their ENTIRE BODY. And probably DAMN HAPPY!!!!!!

"Personal trainer"? Hell all that is IMPORTANT is that that person GIVE A DAMN about you HONESTLY. AND SINCERELY.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: devildog88

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
Hi Luke,

Maybe? But someone can not say that about me (by way of explanation, I am 10 5/8" long and 6 1/2" thick when completely hard and not much less when 'normal'). So I can say honestly that would not apply to me at all.

Not saying this to upset anyone AT ALL here. I see what you are saying though. They might see their whole fist or arm as an extension of their cock...
Guys that are EXTREMELY WELL BUILT have 'Two cocks' - that is, one is their entire body EXTREMELY WELL BUILT and the other their Penis as given to them by God. Both CAN and SHOULD work VERY WELL.

Take Care, John H.
Yup you have confirmed it for me john. You are a weird dude. Anyone that measures thier dick is either feelling inferior or so fugging ugly they can't get a woman to stay with them without threatening to chew their arm off. You would fit the profile of a serial killer nicely!


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by devildog88
John,
Let me process this...........you are now Telling us that God makes mistakes?
Hi Devil,

In THIS case, it just may be an "error" on His part. I certainly can see the benefits of it being a Muscle just as with any other in Men. And I would want it to BE just as POWERFUL as the most powerful Men can develope.

Maybe Females would not have as much to "bitch about"?

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by min0 lee
Hi minO,

I KNOW you would certainly UNDERSTAND - and APPRECIATE...

TDGC, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by devildog88
Yup you have confirmed it for me john. You are a weird dude. Anyone that measures thier dick is either feelling inferior or so fugging ugly they can't get a woman to stay with them without threatening to chew their arm off. You would fit the profile of a serial killer nicely!
Hi Devil,

You could NOT BE MORE WRONG about me. SINCERELY! AND HONESTLY!

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: devildog88

For your sake and your family's I hope so!


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by devildog88
For your sake and your family's I hope so!
Hi Devil,

You can take this to Las Vegas - NO ONE take BETTER care of their family and friends - AND LOVES THEM SINCERELY AND HONESTLY. TRUST ME!!!

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: min0 lee

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
Hi minO,

I KNOW you would certainly UNDERSTAND - and APPRECIATE...

TDGC, John H.



Posted by: bio-chem

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
Bio,

Do you ALWAYS go off the "deep end" about things?

I will say the only reason you are not saying anything about fisting being a "sin" or not is because you want to reserve that thought until after you have "tried it" or "have it tried" on you. I suspect you would be among the first to find a reason to damn just about anything. With regard to this "being sinful" I never heard a word about God saying it was wrong. ABUSING anyone IS WRONG when ABUSE THAT HAS AS ITS "PURPOSE" HARM that is not "agreed to" by ALL involved is the result of such action.

There are many Human Beings that have as their "purpose" to ABUSE someone and I am not talking about a consensual form of abuse.

John H.
you start a thread about sticking a hand up your ass, and im the one going off the deep end? john once agian when you are asked for an actual thought you dont answer, you bs something that has absolutley nothing to do with the topic in hand. like i said im not saying its a sin if people want to add that to their love life thats up to them, personally i find it not appealing in the least bit. so what it boils down to is you assuming someone is going to think its a sin. how about you address the real question for once? wanna give that a try?
if everthing we do starts out as a thought placed by God then how can there be anything bad? you have successfully rationalized any behaivior whatsoever. you have also taken away from man our ability to think and reason on our own by your convoluted logic. i believe one of the greatest gifts God gave us was our ability to think and act on our own. our free agency to choose for ourselves our path. whether that be the path God would want for us or another path.
what im trying to say john boy is the idea that fisting is ok because God put the thought of it in someones head is ridiculous


Posted by: bio-chem

and stop talking about your dick size. no one gives a damn, and the numbers you use change everytime you post


Posted by: min0 lee

Quote:
Originally Posted by bio-chem
and stop talking about your dick size. no one gives a damn, and the numbers you use change everytime you post
Bio is right, you do change it. Busted!


Posted by: rockgazer69

john this thread has gone on for days n gotten plenty of replies n only one pro fisting vote. give it up.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bio-chem
you start a thread about sticking a hand up your ass, and im the one going off the deep end? john once agian when you are asked for an actual thought you dont answer, you bs something that has absolutley nothing to do with the topic in hand. like i said im not saying its a sin if people want to add that to their love life thats up to them, personally i find it not appealing in the least bit. so what it boils down to is you assuming someone is going to think its a sin. how about you address the real question for once? wanna give that a try?
if everthing we do starts out as a thought placed by God then how can there be anything bad? you have successfully rationalized any behaivior whatsoever. you have also taken away from man our ability to think and reason on our own by your convoluted logic. i believe one of the greatest gifts God gave us was our ability to think and act on our own. our free agency to choose for ourselves our path. whether that be the path God would want for us or another path.
what im trying to say john boy is the idea that fisting is ok because God put the thought of it in someones head is ridiculous
Bio,

Why would that be "radiculous"? Just because you (meaning anyone here) would NOT want to take advantage of this variation of Sex does not mean that someone else could and would. Certainly you are entitled to your thoughts and opinions - but so is everyone else. AS LONG AS NO ONE IS HARMED IN ANY FASHION AND IT IS DONE BECAUSE YOU CARE VERY MUCH FOR THE PERSON INVOLVED is what is important. AND MEANINGFUL. AND PROPER. You keep trying to find ways to put "murder" into everything. Or "sin". Why can't you look at each thing as it is and the possibilities? Why are you always so negative? Do you ever see anything positive in anything? And why do you like going off on the deep-end all the time?

If you find this is not for you that is completely fine. And it is just as fine with someone else who may find this as a very honest, sincere, erotic, pleasurable venue for them. So I am DISCUSSING this with other people I hope are adults who are mature and discuss anything honestly.

Have you ever had Sex? In any form? Just HONESTLY wondering is all. NOT being flippant or scarastic...



John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bio-chem
and stop talking about your dick size. no one gives a damn, and the numbers you use change everytime you post
Bio,

Your "christian- ness" is getting in the way of your VISION. Go back and LOOK at EACH POST I HAVE MADE where I MENTION - BY WAY OF EXPLANATION ONLY - to get a point across!!! - the size of my cock. It IS 10 5/8" long and 6 1/2" thick when completely hard and even when soft is not much "smaller". I should know, it IS MINE. I have NEVER stated any other measurement - why would I do that? AGAIN, YOU are going off the deep-end.

John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by min0 lee
Bio is right, you do change it. Busted!
Hi minO,

Go back and READ EACH post I have made where I - MENTION BY WAY OF EXPLANATION - PERIOD!! - the size of my cock. I have never said anything other than what IT IS. I have NEVER "change(d) it". And anyone that has seen it for themselves KNOW too.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: rockgazer69

i saw a fisting film. i was not at all convinced it was a good idea.

a nurse put her hand in me when i was in labor for tesla. not sure if it was her whole hand, there was a lot of demerol involved but if there was ever one person i wish i had hit hard enough to break facial bones it was her. even pumped full of demerol the pain was excruciating.


Posted by: rockgazer69

i changed my mind about having a baby while i was in labor. funny thing, they wouldn't let me go home.


Posted by: Shae

Said it once in here and will say it again: I wourld rather have a dong in me instead of a hand or foot.


Posted by: bio-chem

good job john h again you would not address my question to you. like i said i dont think it is a sin. pay attention. what is ridiculous is you saying God had anything to do with putting the idea of fisting in someones mind. when you become capable of having a mature conversation let the rest of us know. until then your just the forum jester. dance monkey dance!


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bio-chem
good job john h again you would not address my question to you. like i said i dont think it is a sin. pay attention. what is ridiculous is you saying God had anything to do with putting the idea of fisting in someones mind. when you become capable of having a mature conversation let the rest of us know. until then your just the forum jester. dance monkey dance!
Bio,

As usual you "see" things ONLY from your perspective.

I look at things FROM ALL PERSPECTIVES. Objectively.

I never said "YOU SAID" (it is a sin)... But I feel as if you would think that being a "religious zealot" yourself - most "think" that way. They can not see it as an HONEST form of CARING AND LOVING someone YOU TRULY DO. Another variation - something that EXISTS in ALL things in life and living. VARIETY.

If you go back to what I DID say, I SAID that God - HIMSELF - and Christ - HIMSELF - NEVER SAID ONE WORD ABOUT IT - EVER. If it was so "wrong" (as religious zealots like to force down other people's throats) THEY CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE SAID SO - THEY NEVER DID - same with Sexual Orientation. People ARE Heterosexual, BiSexual and Homosexual NATURALLY AND RIGHTLY. Those are other forms of variation - VARIETY - in life and living. And BEING any of those NEVER MEANS that people will not be born. There ALWAYS WILL BE people being born. Do you KNOW anything HONESTLY about biology?

John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shae
Said it once in here and will say it again: I wourld rather have a dong in me instead of a hand or foot.
Hi Shae,

There ARE those that prefer this (the "Dong") for sure!! Because it FEELS DAMN GOOD probably.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: Pepper

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
Bio,

As usual you "see" things ONLY from your perspective.

I look at things FROM ALL PERSPECTIVES. Objectively.

I never said "YOU SAID" (it is a sin)... But I feel as if you would think that being a "religious zealot" yourself - most "think" that way. They can not see it as an HONEST form of CARING AND LOVING someone YOU TRULY DO. Another variation - something that EXISTS in ALL things in life and living. VARIETY.

If you go back to what I DID say, I SAID that God - HIMSELF - and Christ - HIMSELF - NEVER SAID ONE WORD ABOUT IT - EVER. If it was so "wrong" (as religious zealots like to force down other people's throats) THEY CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE SAID SO - THEY NEVER DID - same with Sexual Orientation. People ARE Heterosexual, BiSexual and Homosexual NATURALLY AND RIGHTLY. Those are other forms of variation - VARIETY - in life and living. And BEING any of those NEVER MEANS that people will not be born. There ALWAYS WILL BE people being born. Do you KNOW anything HONESTLY about biology?

John H.
John H, you calling your views on Christianity and the Bible "objective" is like me calling my abs "ripped."

Perhaps I should try that. If I post over and over and over again that I have ripped abs, perhaps I will have them.

How many moons orbit the earth in your world?


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepper
John H, you calling your views on Christianity and the Bible "objective" is like me calling my abs "ripped."

Perhaps I should try that. If I post over and over and over again that I have ripped abs, perhaps I will have them.

How many moons orbit the earth in your world?
Hi Pepper,

I am not into the brainwashing of others. And anyone that tries to do that I feel is doing everyone a disservice at least. My statements ARE objective because I base them on ALL the information available from ALL sides of a "story". Sure there are some "Christians" that ARE "Christian" and DO live by what Christ is said to have said and they do not go around damning others all the time and running people down, are not well off themselves while others they profess to
" care about" those less fortunate.... and finding ways to put others into a mental and physical "prison". I believe LIFE is to BE LIVED AND UNDERSTOOD COMPLETELY from ALL aspects. Honorably, respectfully, etc. and that it IS SACRED. I also have no problem with anyone trying TO DO THEIR BEST as is humanly possible to look for answers to the unanswerable. We all have that right and I feel obligation. And certainly need.

You can "say" your abs are ripped and I would usually have no reason to feel that is not true but I will check them out for myself to see for myself if I see them, I will look. Same applies to religion. If you tell me something is "true" I want to SEE the PROOF - about the "ALL OF IT" not just a few things or selected things. And my search has turned up A HELL OF A LOT OF PLAIN "BS". I think people TALK THEMSELVES into believing things that are totally untrue and even radiculous. Now that is fine for them and if that is what "floats their boat" that is fine with me too BECAUSE they keep it to themselves and do not FORCE their issues on me BUT IF they try as so many "religious types" try to do - shove their "beliefs" to the point of even influencing the government (which "religion" should stay completely out of) into causing laws to be made BASED ON THEIR RELIGIOUS beliefs (REMEMBER there ARE THOUSANDS of "religions!!") and God HIMSELF and Christ HIMSELF have NEVER SAID ONE WORD ABOUT IT THEMSELVES - sorry, I will not subscribe to that because they then are no different than a dictator trying to dictate to others and ruling over others and wanting POWER OVER others - and the usual reason IS for monetary gain and mental cruelty towards others...

Quoting:

"Imagine a day ... when we build a moat, not to keep strangers out, but to welcome them in."

"Imagine a day ... when we forget how to fall."

"Imagine a day ... when your house enfolds you like a nest, rocking gently in the autumn wind."

"Imagine a day ... when grace and daring are all we need to build a bridge."

"Imagine a day ... when you can dive down through branches or swim up to the sun."

"Imagine a day ... when you don't need wings to soar"

"Imagine a day ... when autumn is a yellow canopy above you, a burnt orange carpet underneath, a road you have never ridden on before."

"Imagine a day ... when everything you build touches the sky."

"Imagine a day ... when roots drink up rivers, twigs tangle in clouds, and a tree is a ladder between earth and air."

"Imagine a day ... when the edge of the map is only the beginning of what we can explore."

"Imagine a day ... when the peace of a forest and the strength of a mountain become a cathedral for your heart."

- From: IMAGAINE A DAY, written by Sarah L. Thomson; Paintings by Rob Gonsalves; Published by Atheneum Books For Young Readers (New York), c2005, ISBN: 0-689-85219-3.

You see, LIFE is LIFE and IS to BE ENJOYED AND UNDERSTOOD AND LIVED not destroyed or damned or imprisoned. It IS SACRED and CERTAINLY a GIFT and to BE LIVED for the benefit of ALL.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: Voltimus

I don't think cramming something in my ass is a good way to show that "you care for me honestly and truthfully" I don't care if God condones it or not, I don't believe wearing somebody on your hand like a freaky glove is better than just telling them "Babe, I love you truly and honestly"

Call me crazy.....


Posted by: Du

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltimus
I don't think cramming something in my ass is a good way to show that "you care for me honestly and truthfully" I don't care if God condones it or not, I don't believe wearing somebody on your hand like a freaky glove is better than just telling them "Babe, I love you truly and honestly"

Call me crazy.....
Best 1st post ever.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltimus
I don't think cramming something in my ass is a good way to show that "you care for me honestly and truthfully" I don't care if God condones it or not, I don't believe wearing somebody on your hand like a freaky glove is better than just telling them "Babe, I love you truly and honestly"

Call me crazy.....
Hi Voltimus,

What is "fine" for you, "is" - and what "is fine" for someone else, "is".

That does NOT MEAN that anyone need CONDEMN or even accept someone because they utilize a natural variation WHICH IS NATURALLY PROVIDED. You can (meaning anyone can) say they do not "care for this" and leave it at that. It does not require that people CONDEMN others for doing something that is a natural variation. You have your "methods" and others have theirs. Nothing more. Does anyone CONDEMN your methods? Why then do you seem to need to condemn others for their methods? See what I am saying? - and it applies to anyone here not just or only you.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: bio-chem

Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
Hi Rock,

Well I have to say that God Himself must have placed this "idea" into the heads of Human Beings. How else would they have "found out"?

Take Care, John H.
Quote:
Originally Posted by John H.
If you go back to what I DID say, I SAID that God - HIMSELF - and Christ - HIMSELF - NEVER SAID ONE WORD ABOUT IT - EVER. If it was so "wrong" (as religious zealots like to force down other people's throats) THEY CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE SAID SO - THEY NEVER DID - same with Sexual Orientation. People ARE Heterosexual, BiSexual and Homosexual NATURALLY AND RIGHTLY. Those are other forms of variation - VARIETY - in life and living. And BEING any of those NEVER MEANS that people will not be born. There ALWAYS WILL BE people being born. Do you KNOW anything HONESTLY about biology?

God said nothing about it, but he placed the idea into someones head? john boy you said God put the idea into someones head as if we wouldnt be able to think of things on our own. john on multiple posts at multiple times you change your story. which is it? and if humans cant find anything out until God puts it into our thoughts how can there be right and wrong? maybe periodicaly you should re-read your own posts so you can remember what your point of view is on a certain subject in order to avoid embarassing yourself.


Posted by: Voltimus

John H.
You're really hilarious, whether or not anybody condones "fisting" wasn't my point. I just don't see engaging in an act, that in your words,"could possibly kill or injure someone" is the nicest form of saying "I Love You". There is a reason that turds are the size that they are. I know fisting is no major stretch for you because a human hand is not larger than a human head and the latter is what you seem to keep in your ass, (it being your own, go ahead and put it where you want...I'm not judging you). Quit attacking people and thinly disguising it as a defense, it's very transparent.


Posted by: shutupntra1n

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltimus
John H.
You're really hilarious, whether or not anybody condones "fisting" wasn't my point. I just don't see engaging in an act, that in your words,"could possibly kill or injure someone" is the nicest form of saying "I Love You". There is a reason that turds are the size that they are. I know fisting is no major stretch for you because a human hand is not larger than a human head and the latter is what you seem to keep in your ass. Quit attacking people and thinly disguising it as a defense, it's very transparent.



Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bio-chem

God said nothing about it, but he placed the idea into someones head? john boy you said God put the idea into someones head as if we wouldnt be able to think of things on our own. john on multiple posts at multiple times you change your story. which is it? and if humans cant find anything out until God puts it into our thoughts how can there be right and wrong? maybe periodicaly you should re-read your own posts so you can remember what your point of view is on a certain subject in order to avoid embarassing yourself.
Bio,

Embarassing myself? How? I said what I said because it is true.

Hey if you "religious" ZEALOTS can see "visions" and be so "inspired" I can certainly do the same thing. You see it works both ways. You can do what you want and so can I ...

I stand by what I said. I've got your attention though.

John H.


Posted by: Voltimus

John H.,
I'm not religious, nor a zealot. And hell and heaven will still freeze over before I get "visions" or am "inspiried" To cram a closed fist into my rectum!


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltimus
John H.
You're really hilarious, whether or not anybody condones "fisting" wasn't my point. I just don't see engaging in an act, that in your words,"could possibly kill or injure someone" is the nicest form of saying "I Love You". There is a reason that turds are the size that they are. I know fisting is no major stretch for you because a human hand is not larger than a human head and the latter is what you seem to keep in your ass. Quit attacking people and thinly disguising it as a defense, it's very transparent.
Hi Volt,

I am glad you had a good laugh. Feels good doesn't it?

I brought up this subject to find out what each person thought - whether they had experienced this themselves or not or whether they knew someone else who had and what they thought. It is supposed to be a DISCUSSION about the subject from all perspectives AS ADULTS WHO ARE MATURE. I mention that IT COULD KILL YOU BECAUSE if someone is NOT knowledgeable and familiar with what procedures to take and ARE VERY CAREFUL they COULD kill someone or cause their death. Remember the saying: "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" - there ARE those who would read this thread and THINK they could IMMEDIATELY begin fisting someone without knowing REALLY what it is and how to go about it and then cause someone's death. SO I am WARNING ANYONE BEFOREHAND - NEVER ATTEMPT fisting UNLESS YOU KNOW DAMN WELL WHAT YOU ARE DOING BEFOREHAND. It CAN BE a VERY PLEASURABLE experience for each person involved IF YOU KNOW what you are doing and you ARE VERY CAREFUL AND CLEAN. There are books available that can explain so a person can get an UNDERSTANDING BEFORE they try anything AND THEY MUST. It is also that the end result IF A PERSON KNOWS what they are doing to cause the person being fisted to experience a MIND BLOWING ORGASM. One they will want more than once.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltimus
John H.,
I'm not religious, nor a zealot. And hell and heaven will still freeze over before I get "visions" or am "inspiried" To cram a closed fist into my rectum!
Hi Volt,

I understand completely what you are saying.

I am saying that there are those who have done it and found it COMPLETELY WONDERFUL too. It IS an individual decision. It does take getting used to and working at it. Mentally, physically, spiritually. But one will never know the experience unless they make the effort and if they DO their homework beforehand.

Just to let you know, fisting is the word to describe the procedure but a person starts out by CAREFULLY pleasuring around a person's anus FIRST - a way of "getting permission" to enter another and then they ONLY insert one finger at a time over a period of time and maybe even over many "sessions" until a person begins to get comfortable with this practice. And you keep working at this until you eventually are able to take the entire hand of another person up inside you completely AND CAREFULLY. WHEN that person has their ENTIRE hand inside you you will experience a feeling of complete fullness inside you and that person will then begin to stimulate you INSIDE you "looking" for your prostate gland and when they find it stimulate it until you are driven completely nuts Sexually speaking which is what the end result WILL BE. And the loads you WILL BLOW will be like NOTHING you have ever experienced... BUT IT MUST AND DOES TAKE someone that HONESTLY CARES ABOUT YOU AND YOU THEM - NEVER - as a "recreational" form of Sex with someone who is basically a "stranger". It is a VERY EROTIC and VERY PERSONAL "communication" between two people THAT LOVE AND CARE FOR EACH OTHER SINCERELY.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: Voltimus

John,

Thanks again for the laugh, as for the "fisting"...
good luck with that


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltimus
John,

Thanks again for the laugh, as for the "fisting"...
good luck with that
Hi Volt,

You are welcome - as to the laugh!!!

As for fisting, I myself have never done it or had it done to me. I have seen it done and watched carefully - NOT as some "sicko" but in an effort to REALLY UNDERSTAND the "why", etc. You can get a lot of answers by just observing and listening, etc. and I can tell you that BOTH MEN that were involved REALLY got into the experience and you could SEE EACH MAN cared for one another HONESTLY (I SWEAR!!) and I never thought one Man could blow off so hard and so much - it was "inhuman" the amount that blasted, over and over and over again. I think both Men were completely worn out afterwards but you could see it was not going to be the only time they would experience it for sure... They HONESTLY were NOT "using" or disrespecting one another. Seriously!!! And I can tell you you would NEVER GUESS these MEN were into each other Sexually too - they both looked like just about any Man you can see on this website: www.repetrope.com TRUST ME!!! Not ONE OUNCE OF BODYFAT ON EITHER OF THEM!!! DAMN PERFECTLY BUILT!!!! I was just as shocked as anyone would be - they BOTH ARE REAL MEN in the TRUST SENSE OF THE WORD. It is just that they have BOTH found out MEN CAN LOVE MEN - HONESTLY - and DO.

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: rockgazer69

truth is there are a lot of fisting videos available on line n pics, just do a search, so obviously a lot of people do enjoy it. it's just not something i want to do. it's not all gay guys either some very pretty petite women are seemingly hollow inside.


Posted by: Voltimus

John,

There is some serious misfiring of your synapses going on. I'm having a great time arguing with you about this subject. I figured I'd attempt to counterpoint you in an intelligent manner;
First, you been watching a little too much porn. I used to think this was an impossibility for someone to do, but, you achieved it. Congratulations.
Second, I want you to picture in your head, for a few moments, real life. You come home from a hard day at work, you see your wife/husband/lifepartner/petmonkey/whatever, you explain to this entity how hard your day was and you both commiserate. They then bust out a bucket of KY jelly, tells you to relax your anus, and crams a large calloused fist in your ass. To which you respond, "I Love You, Too". This does not make sense in any form of living. I haven't heard of anyone who tried. I'm an Offshore Oil Worker, and ex-military. I've seen depradation. But, I've only seen this act portrayed on film.
Nobody, not the religious right, nor the liberal left, has tried cramming their values or beliefs down your throat. I think common sense is the only belief required to see that maybe jamming stuff in your ass is not a very intimate way of saying "I Love You".
Just because somebody doesn't believe "fisting" to be a good idea, it doesn't make them closed minded. You send forth your "extremely abnormal" views about sex, and then feign innocence when your called upon to defend them in a concise manner. I believe there are inherent dangers of what you are proposing. What a person does with his/her body is their own business, I also believe that the foremost expression of Love is to make the attempt at keeping the loved individual safe. Don't get defensive when people take enjoyment of belittling your views. You posted 'em. If you set your nuts on the floor all the time, somebody's going to step on them.
Lastly, it's not a test of manhood to jam things in your ass. I get the impression from your last post that you're portraying it as such. I believe the tests of manhood are evident in our daily lives, feeding our families, being responsible. These are not strictly heterosexual obstacles, and I am not portraying it as such. The act of injecting something "in" the "out" hole is not natural, otherwise, it wouldn't be connected to your intestines. Go with the flow, John. Let your asshole do it's work, stop punishing it. And for everybodies sake.

Quit being so damned weird!!


Posted by: John H.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltimus
John,

There is some serious misfiring of your synapses going on. I'm having a great time arguing with you about this subject. I figured I'd attempt to counterpoint you in an intelligent manner;
First, you been watching a little too much porn. I used to think this was an impossibility for someone to do, but, you achieved it. Congratulations.
Second, I want you to picture in your head, for a few moments, real life. You come home from a hard day at work, you see your wife/husband/lifepartner/petmonkey/whatever, you explain to this entity how hard your day was and you both commiserate. They then bust out a bucket of KY jelly, tells you to relax your anus, and crams a large calloused fist in your ass. To which you respond, "I Love You, Too". This does not make sense in any form of living. I haven't heard of anyone who tried. I'm an Offshore Oil Worker, and ex-military. I've seen depradation. But, I've only seen this act portrayed on film.
Nobody, not the religious right, nor the liberal left, has tried cramming their values or beliefs down your throat. I think common sense is the only belief required to see that maybe jamming stuff in your ass is not a very intimate way of saying "I Love You".
Just because somebody doesn't believe "fisting" to be a good idea, it doesn't make them closed minded. You send forth your "extremely abnormal" views about sex, and then feign innocence when your called upon to defend them in a concise manner. I believe there are inherent dangers of what you are proposing. What a person does with his/her body is their own business, I also believe that the foremost expression of Love is to make the attempt at keeping the loved individual safe. Don't get defensive when people take enjoyment of belittling your views. You posted 'em. If you set your nuts on the floor all the time, somebody's going to step on them.
Lastly, it's not a test of manhood to jam things in your ass. I get the impression from your last post that you're portraying it as such. I believe the tests of manhood are evident in our daily lives, feeding our families, being responsible. These are not strictly heterosexual obstacles, and I am not portraying it as such. The act of injecting something "in" the "out" hole is not natural, otherwise, it wouldn't be connected to your intestines. Go with the flow, John. Let your asshole do it's work, stop punishing it. And for everybodies sake.

Quit being so damned weird!!
Hi Volt,

I am a war veteran and work construction every day and work and own my own farm. And work with Men each and every day. And they me.

I was not "shoving" anything on anyone. I asked the question and was asking who was so involved or if they knew someone so involved and discussing the topic as a mature adult. I never said nor implied that I ever did this myself or had it done to me or would or would not - I remained natural about it as it regards me personally. What someone does is entirely their business of course. I related what I knew or knew of, etc. I do not "watch porn" all the time sorry to disappoint ya on that. I have seen some. As many have. I see if for what it is depending on the movie and the people so involved. And their actions. And whether it is just an "exercise" or whether there is any truthfulness and meaning in it... As with anything, some is very good and some is very bad.

As for loving someone, people find many ways to express that. It is an individual thing. Each person is entitled to express themselves as they feel is successful.

I think you are going off the deep end about all this or being somewhat extreme but then you are trying to "have fun" so have at it.

How's the oil-rig business going? Do you Guys have any off time? Where? And what do you do with it?

Take Care, John H.


Posted by: bio-chem

Voltimus going off the deep end? are you serious? remember who started this thread?


Posted by: Voltimus

John,
I'm just really enjoying the juxtaposition of a "serious" conversation about the joys of having a large object in your cornhole.

As for your questions, the oil business is doing very well (as evidenced by your gas prices), yes, of course we have off time. where? everywhere. What do we do on our off time, pretty much anything......with the exclusion of "fisting"

And you're very easy to make fun of, you do know this?
It's part of being very freakin' strange.


Posted by: craig777

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Originally Posted by rockgazer69
truth is there are a lo