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Posted by: M.J.H.

I weigh around 228 lbs. Do you guys recommend that I take 15mg or 20mg?

Last time around I did 15mg for around 6 weeks and got some gyno afterwards unfortunately. I used 6-OXO as my PCT which was a bad idea, I should have gone with Nolvadex.

Should I do a 6-week cycle at 15mg per day, or a 4.5-week cycle at 20mg?


Posted by: LW83

dude, m1t is an ANABOLIC STEROID. Not a supp.


Posted by: M.J.H.

LOL, didn't you take 20mg a day Luke?

I think I should just do 20mg a day for month. Maybe that's my best bet.


Posted by: APG

Hey Monstar I am no expert on M1t (far from it) but I thought cycles should be 4wks and it was debatable whether taking any more than 10mg a day would have any additional benefit, but would shut down your natural test production for longer


Posted by: Tha Don

Quote:
Originally Posted by MonStar
Should I do a 6-week cycle at 15mg per day, or a 4.5-week cycle at 20mg?
hmm... i'd do neither man, i'd start with 15mg and possibly up to 20mg for 3 weeks, from what i've read the 4th week dosen't seem worthwhile, shorter harder 2-3 week cycles seem to work better with m1t


Posted by: M.J.H.

Wow, maybe that's why I didn't have the greatest results from 15mg for 6 weeks. I think this time around I'll do 20mg for 3-4 weeks.


Posted by: X Ring

in my research (dont have any actual experience) no one who seems to know what they are doing is running it over 4 weeks at that high of a dose. But again i am no expert, just becareful


Posted by: APG

whats your diet going to consist of and Nolva for PCT?


Posted by: M.J.H.

Damn I didn't realize shorter more intense cycles were recommended. So 20mg for 3 weeks maybe? It just seems like it would be kind of hard to get any kind of substantial gains in 3 weeks.


Posted by: APG

I gained 11lbs in two weeks but obviously some of this weight is water


Posted by: Prince

I get good results with the least side effects at about 20mg per day, when I tried going up to 30mg I could not handle the sides.


Posted by: Tha Don

Quote:
Originally Posted by MonStar
Damn I didn't realize shorter more intense cycles were recommended. So 20mg for 3 weeks maybe? It just seems like it would be kind of hard to get any kind of substantial gains in 3 weeks.
yeah 20mg for 3 weeks should work pretty good for you


Posted by: M.J.H.

Robert, so you would recommend 20mg per day? And how long of a cycle do you think is best, 3 weeks or 4 weeks?


Posted by: LW83

20mg was too much for me.


Posted by: M.J.H.

But then again Luke, you're also what 50 lbs. lighter than I am? I am thinking 20mg might be the right dose for me. Maybe doing 10mg after my workout then 10mg before bed.


Posted by: LW83

Quote:
Originally Posted by MonStar
But then again Luke, you're also what 50 lbs. lighter than I am? I am thinking 20mg might be the right dose for me. Maybe doing 10mg after my workout then 10mg before bed.

Everybodies different. BIG ROB, my buddy, is 363lbs. 20mg was too much for him. I think it has more to do with BP the BW.


Posted by: M.J.H.

Hmm, interesting. From what I remember my blood pressure was always on the low side, but I don't really remember. In the past I think I took 20mg and did notice some pretty intense side effects.


Posted by: APG

just keep an eye on your BP if it goes up too much reduce your dosage


Posted by: M.J.H.

What am I supposed to do stop by the drug store to check my blood pressure everyday?


Posted by: M.J.H.

Maybe I'll just do 15mg, that worked for me in the past.


Posted by: rock4832

Quote:
Originally Posted by MonStar
What am I supposed to do stop by the drug store to check my blood pressure everyday?
If that's what you have to do. There comes responsibility when deciding to take things like this. There are other options also.


Posted by: crazy_enough

Quote:
Originally Posted by MonStar
What am I supposed to do stop by the drug store to check my blood pressure everyday?
Thats what I did....

well, every other day! at least 3 X week...


Posted by: APG

Maybe just get it checked before you start, 1 week in at 15mg if your BP is ok, up to 20mg if you still feel the need and see if there is a substantial increase one week later if you cant get it checked every couple of days


Posted by: M.J.H.

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If that's what you have to do. There comes responsibility when deciding to take things like this. There are other options also.
I took 15mg with zero problems in the past, so I am just going to do this again. At 3 weeks I'll see how I feel, and determine whether I should push it to 4 weeks or not.


Posted by: gococksDJS

I went up to 25 but the sides were to harsh, so I cut it back to 20, and ran it for 4 weeks. 20mgs for 4 weeks would be fine IMO...


Posted by: LW83

I'd like to throw out there that I believe HP m1t is underdosed.


Posted by: Du

Quote:
Originally Posted by LW83
dude, m1t is an ANABOLIC STEROID. Not a supp.
No its not. Its candy.


Posted by: SLY

Personally, I didn't see results untill I hit 30mg. I ran a couple cycles at 30mg for 6 weeks each, not condoning it just my experience. No major sides.


Posted by: musclepump

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Originally Posted by SLY
Personally, I didn't see results untill I hit 30mg. I ran a couple cycles at 30mg for 6 weeks each, not condoning it just my experience. No major sides.
What brand? Some M1T's are weaker than other.

I took 12.5mg a day for three weeks (Axion-Pharm came in 6.25mg capsules) and I was lethargic as hell. I knew I couldn't take anymore or I would have slept 20hrs a day and still woken up tired and grouchy.


Posted by: dg806

I would not run it without getting blood test for lipids done. I think there is more to worry about with hdl and cholesterol.


Posted by: SLY

Quote:
Originally Posted by musclepump
What brand? Some M1T's are weaker than other.

I took 12.5mg a day for three weeks (Axion-Pharm came in 6.25mg capsules) and I was lethargic as hell. I knew I couldn't take anymore or I would have slept 20hrs a day and still woken up tired and grouchy.
I've used the original Legal Gears, Higher Power and Undergroundlabs. Got the same results from all. I seemed to gain a little more strength on the Legal Gears, could be because of the supposed contamination or because it was my 1st M1T cycle.


Posted by: ChrisROCK

i have a friend who is taking M1T, and plans nothing for PCT....is he setting himself up for disaster, or do some people get away with that?



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