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. You're right about P/RR/S being an awesome routine. Combined with an amazing diet provided via Gopro, the results you see from it can be overwhelming!! I'm excited to see what this will do to me with my full out cut, but I'm going to be patient and not rush this.

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Originally Posted by gwcaton
wouldn't that be the other way around ?
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Originally Posted by Archangel
Hey Brother, just read your journal. Good lookin start to your new routine!!! I agree, GoPro helped me out a while back. I will be goin back to the P/RR/S routine in a while, right now I'm enjoying FullBody routines!!! Keep it up
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Originally Posted by Alaric
Right on man! Thanks for the support. How are the fullbody routines treating you, do you prefer using that method instead of isolating a couple bodyparts/day?
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Originally Posted by Archangel
No porblem Brother, my pleasure!!!
I had been doing the P/RR/S routine for a few months, then got sidelined for a while with a shoulder injury. Got right back into it and then decided to change it up a bit, since I had been doing a couple bodyparts at a time, and only working them once a week, I decided to give the FullBody routine a try. And to be quit honest, I LOVE it!!! You tear into your entire body and it's pretty intense, and yet fairly short. I really enjoy it. But like I said, I will retrurn to the P/RR/S routine in a little bit. Keep it up Brother, lookin good |

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Originally Posted by reg56
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Funny thing is, my legs were fried yesterday, I could barely walk. They seem to be alright today though.
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Originally Posted by Archangel
Sleep well Brother!!!
Awesome w/o BTW too, No I don't think that my traps get underworked, Deads fry them alone!!! Seriously try it and you'll see what I mean. I cycle heavy days with rep days, so I honestly think my traps are getting fried just right ![]() |
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Originally Posted by Alaric
The strongest kid in my school had a 340 lb bench, but everyone else was in the low 200s. Nobody at my school squatted (we didn't have a power rack), and no one deadlifted neither.!
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I'll give these a shot in 2 weeks, when I start up power week and let you know how it goes
I'll see if I can dig up any of Dave Tate's articles, I'm curious to see what these highschool students look like.
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Originally Posted by Alaric
Wow, where I come from I couldn't imagine someone in highschool doing juice already. That just seems "out of this world" so to speak. But I guess that's to your benefit, more motivation for you to train harder and be competitive
I'll see if I can dig up any of Dave Tate's articles, I'm curious to see what these highschool students look like. |
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Originally Posted by Alaric
Archangel - Thanks a lot man, I guess I'll have to give it a shot. Only thing is I'd run it maybe once every 4 weeks during power week. The rest of the 3 weeks I guess I'll have to settle for normal shrugs, IF i remmeber them
I'll give these a shot in 2 weeks, when I start up power week and let you know how it goes |
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Originally Posted by Archangel
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Heya bud! I looked for that artcle but it was on my old computer not this one. You can search for it @ http://www.t-nation.com/index.do;jse...8412EFD3B.ba13
If I get a chance I will try to look for it but I figured I'd give ya the website so you could search for yourself. |
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Should have something like westside for begginers or somethign along those lines. I know thats the title of some sort but I just stumbled upon it a few months ago. Your best bet is search for westside at that site and you should find it. I wouldn't put anything about school in there b/c I don't know how many times that was mentioned....if I come across it again I'll let ya know.
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Originally Posted by Alaric
I wish I had those kind of guys in my highschool to look up too...
Highschool football isn't as big up here, team members weren't forced to work out. There were the regulars that showed up to the gym, and the team members that showed up maybe once every 2 weeks or so. Did the strongman events help your high school? |
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Originally Posted by Alaric
Ah gotcha nice nice, what kind of numbers were these guys putting up??
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Originally Posted by Alaric
Archangel - Thanks for stopping by, its good motivation when I'm getting support from someone with your strength.
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Originally Posted by Alaric
Abs - Negative crunches/obliques/crunches. Slow controlled movements, my stomach was burning after this and i'm sure my face resembled that of a tomatoe.
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(I have a feeling it'll be painful).


Hell, I just finished school 2 days ago, why should I talk about it starting up again!
We will see how it goes, I think the interview went alright (could've used a bit more sleep though, the whole 2 hour testing thing threw me off guard). Still hoping to be working the 40 hours a week

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Originally Posted by Alaric
DeadboltThanks for the words of wisdom Deadbolt. I figured this would be a battle of mentality strength somewhat. I was reading over Rissole's journal 6 weeks out before his comp, and it looks like he set some NEW prs right before his comp. Gives me great hope
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I come in here for a look see and your giving me snaps....
Thanks guys
Yeah Al, i keep my strength right up to comp but after was a different story.... 2 weeks of light w8's seemed to have had an effect


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Originally Posted by Alaric
OFF Days
Meal 1 2 whole eggs 11 Egg Whites 3 tbsp Natural Peanut Butter Here i would put crabs from meal 2 into meal 1 and fat from meal 1 into meal 2, Carbs early for some early energy then let your body just burn fat Meal 2 1/3cup of oatmeal 1 Glass of Milk 8 oz chicken breast (before cooking) Meal 3 2 Scoops ON Whey 3 tbsp Natural Peanut Butter Why not swap meal 2 and 3 around so you have a solid meal for lunch instead of a shake ![]() Meal 4 2 Scoops ON Whey 3 tbsp Natural Peanut Butter Meal 5 1 Cup of White Rice bit late for having carbs here, i like to go to bed with no carbs in me 9 oz chicken breast (before cooking) 1 tbsp Olive Oil Meal 6 8 oz chicken breast (before cooking) 1/2 Cup of Rice Try some flax oil or natty pb instead of carbs again and swap meal 6 and 7 as the chicken will digest slower while you are asleep Meal 7 2 Scoop ON Whey 1 tbsp Olive Oil 3fish oil caps ON Days Meal 1 2 whole eggs 11 Egg Whites 2 tbsp Natural Peanut Butter Drop the fat and have some carbs Meal 2 1/3cup of oatmeal 2 Glasses of Milk 8 oz chicken breast (6) Preworkout (30mins~1 hour before) 2 Scoops ON Whey 2 tbsp Natural Peanut Butter Postworkout (immediately after workout) 2 Scoops ON Whey 4 Quaker Original Rice Cakes Are your carbs the same as your protien levels? Also a fast protien is best (isolate) is the ON whey isolate or concentrate? PWO Insulin Spike Meal (1~2 hours after workout)Why you do this twice?? 1.75 Cup of White Rice 1 Cup Broccoli 1 Medium Apple 9 oz chicken breast (6.75) Meal 3 1.8 Scoops ON Whey 1 flax oil caps 1 cup of white Rice 1 Glass of Milk Meal 4 8 oz chicken breast |
Taking the week off so I can see what my working schedule is, then I'll start shopping around for memberships next weekend. The next week will have only cardio (most likely on weekends).
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OFF days Meal 1 2 whole eggs 11 Egg Whites 3 tbsp Natural Peanut Butter Here i would put crabs from meal 2 into meal 1 and fat from meal 1 into meal 2, Carbs early for some early energy then let your body just burn fat - sounds like a good idea, so my fats don't have to be highest at breakfast during OFF days?? Meal 6 8 oz chicken breast (before cooking) 1/2 Cup of Rice Try some flax oil or natty pb instead of carbs again and swap meal 6 and 7 as the chicken will digest slower while you are asleep I like the idea of swapping meals 6 and 7, and that I will do, makes much more sense. However, if I'm replacing my carbs with fats, that sorta throws off my macros, because I'm trying to eat about (0.6*BW) carbs, and (0.7*BW) fats, you think it'd be okay for me to up the fats in order to lower the carbs? ON days Meal 1 2 whole eggs 11 Egg Whites 2 tbsp Natural Peanut Butter Drop the fat and have some carbs - According to the link up above, shouldn't my fats be highest at breakfast, and 25% of my carbs 3.5 hours before my workout? Postworkout (immediately after workout) 2 Scoops ON Whey 4 Quaker Original Rice Cakes Are your carbs the same as your protien levels? Also a fast protien is best (isolate) is the ON whey isolate or concentrate? - My carb levels are less than my protein levels at this time. Reason being is, I'm eating these in the lockerroom before I get changed/shower. I think its concentrate but I'm not sure, according to 1fast400 it has both ingredients but I'm using the cheaper one: here PWO Insulin Spike Meal (1~2 hours after workout)Why you do this twice?? Because I didn't have enough carbs immediately after my workout, I had some just to fulfill that "45 minutes window of oppurtunity," but I also read that you're body will be burning cals/carbs (cna't remember which) faster for the next 4 hours after your workout. So as soon as I get home from the gym, I'll take in another carb filled meal (more carbs than protein). |
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Originally Posted by Pylon
It can be very intense, especially if you try to do it as a boxing round (3 minutes on, 1 off for 15 turns.) You'll be whipped at the end.
Shadow is similar but without a bag. Less impact on the joints, for one thing, and nice and quiet. |
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Originally Posted by Pylon
You can run combos if you want, but with the bag, I always just look at it as 3 mintues of trying to pound the bag into submission. Heck, kicks and headbutts are fine too, if you're an ultimate fighting cardio kinda guy...But no sleeper holds allowed.
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Originally Posted by Alaric
Wow I'm no pro at this, hell, I don't even have a bag to hit. Lol, I just hit one of my workout benches (stupid bowflex machine I bought awhile ago). But yeah, I never use a bag, I'm always just punching air (its still a hell of a workout). Definitley do combos, make them up as you go along. For example try completing this as fast as you can:
1) Grab with right hand 2) Come back, upper cut left 3) Come back, punch right 4) Repeat If you get your form down, and use your whole body, you'll start sweating up in no time! |
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Originally Posted by Pylon
My bag doesn't have a weight, but I'd guess 50-70 lbs. Your best bet is to go hit a few. Make sure to but wrist wraps. They make a ton of difference to your knuckles and your wrists.
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Originally Posted by Pylon
My straps are made by everlast. They have a loop on one end for your thumb, and velcro on the other to cinch them up. Very easy to get on and off, good protection, and they only cost about $5.
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Originally Posted by Archangel
My heavy bag was 100 pounds, I suggest 80 pounds!!! And most definatly use wrist wraps!!!
Brother Alaric, your not kidden Brother, You can w/o VERY Intensly while shadow boxing, and I suggest starting out slowly and building on the combos!!! Hows it goin Brother Alaric? |
Funny thing is, I'm not doing ANYTHING at work, who would've knew sitting around for 8 hours would be SOOOOo tiring. lol
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Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait
... With all this talk, Im gettin a little interested in this shadowboxin stuff...
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Originally Posted by Alaric
Pylon - Thanks for all your tips man.
SIDE NOTE: This is great, I may have a "private" gym all too myself this summer. Well almost, its my dad's office gym, but no one uses it. I'm going to check it out this weekend and see if it will do for me or not. If it is, I start Saturday! |
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Originally Posted by Archangel
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Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait
Sounds like it to me! Man, all them fun lil things the Lord provides are just, SWEET!!!
So what exactly do you DO at work? |
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Originally Posted by Pylon
You can always use the time to do static ab crunches, butt clenches and kegels, right!
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Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait
What do you think IM doin right now, and a one!
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Originally Posted by Pylon
You can always use the time to do static ab crunches, butt clenches and kegels, right!
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Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait
squeeze your butt at the same time as you squeeze your abs...
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Originally Posted by Rissole
Hey Al, sorry i haven't been in... whats doin??
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Originally Posted by Deadbolt
Heya bud....that sux that the corporate gym was a no go. I figured it would be like that b/c no one in those places ever uses em so theres no need to maintain em.
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Originally Posted by Alaric
Power Week May 8, 2005
Chest/Delts/Abs DB Bench Press - 90x5, 75x6, 60x6 New gym, first exercise. These dumbbells are rubber weight, and I found out the highest they have is 100. I hope to be using those by the end of summer . Problem with rubber is, they keep colliding at the top of the motion, damnit!Try to keep them from hitting at the top to ensure them from bouncing. The proper way to bench with db's is to keep them from hitting...has something to do with the momentum or the shock or some shit I forget but I know its bad to do it heh. Incline Bench Press - 170x5, 135x6, 120x6 Its going to take me some time to get used to these Incline Benches. I wasn't sure if I'd be moving the same amount of weight or not, so I took it easy on the last 2 sets (no spot). Thats a big difference between the sets...I know you said you took it easy but why such a big drop? Why not just drop it 10-20lbs instead 35? Dips - BWx13 (slow controlled negatives). Looks like I'll be beltless for the next 4 months, gym doesn't have one and I'm not to fond of the dipping machine neither. They're narrow, so its hitting my tri's more than my chest. If there is no belt try and just hold a db between your legs. Just get someone to put it like by your calves and do your set. A kid use to dot hat back in highschool b/c we didn't have a belt ther either. just an option for ya. Overall, I'm very pleased with the gym. The equpiment seems new/high technish, and I'm old fashioned, but this is a lot better than the gym I was at last summer. I hate the rubber weights though (for dumbells), but what can you do. It was deserted today (probalby like 5-6 other people were in the gym). I hear it gets very crowded on weekdays between 5-7, so I'll try and hit it up around 6:30-7:00ish. Legs tomorrow, lets see how that goes. My workout weeks will start on Saturday now. Its the same by me...here are the slow hours then from like 5-8 its swamped in there. I refuse to train then b/c its so damn busy! Don't ever try to superset during those times! One last thing, that week off + crappy diet for a week didn't really affect my numbers, I'm still looking leaner than before, and just as strong. Then again, if my weights drop for legs/back/arms, I won't complain because the equipment here has a different feel to it. A week off will usually do that for ya...really helps alot sometimes. You come back stronger most of the times. Anything beyond 2 weeks is where most see strength loss and such. A good week off can make a total difference in your body! |

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Originally Posted by Alaric
Pylon - Thanks that's a good tip. Only problem is, I don't have a great attention span, so I don't know how much I'd benefit from that. Doesn't hurt to try it though, I'm still not used to the equipment for back/arms b/c I haven't tried it out yet.
I've tried out that butt thing, and I still can't do it, grr!! At least I'll have all day tomorrow to try it out. Those ab clenches though, you're just sucking in your tummy, or are you flexing your abs and holding the flex? Medicine balls on dips? Aren't those medicine balls wide as hell and light?? Maybe I'm thinking of something else (the ball I"m thinking off is big and bouncey lol) |
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SLDL - 225x1, 225x1 I was too tired here, hell I was sleepy eyed throughout my whole workout. But at this point I couldn't get my balance down, I kept falling back. My form was crappy on these singles, and I think I pulled my neck on the second set. Shouldn't have attempted these..... |
No i don't like carbs before bed, too much energy to sleep on.... How many cals are you aiming for??
Come to think of it, I've never been to a gym that has medicine balls.
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Originally Posted by Alaric
ON Days (weekdays)
Meal 1 - 6:30am 2 whole eggs 11 Egg Whites 2 tbsp Natural Peanut Butter Drop the fat and have some carbs I would change for 1/2-1 cup of rolled oats Meal 2 - 9:30am 1.8 Scoop ON WHey Add come carbs like yams Meal 3 - 12:30 pm 10 oz chicken breast Have some salad Meal 4 - 3:00 pm 1 cup brown rice Might need to ajust for cals.... 6 oz chicken breast Preworkout (30mins~1 hour before) - 6:00 pm 2 Scoops ON Whey 2 tbsp Natural Peanut Butter Postworkout (immediately after workout) 7:30pm 2 Scoops ON Whey 4 Quaker Original Rice Cakes Like DB said, put white rice here Meal 7 - 8:50pm 1 Cup Broccoli 9 oz chicken breast (6.75) I took some stuff out, Add some oil too |

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Originally Posted by Alaric
Oh god, I hope this won't last me for 5 days, really not lookin gforward to that.
Workout took longer than I expected, damnit there is no freaken dresscode in this gym. All these chicks in their shorts shorts and sport bras....I'm getting DISTRACTED!!!!!!!! I did arms and cardio today decided to skip forearms/abs because of all the distractions lol. Instead of posting my workout, I'll just post what I saw, then catch up tomorrow on the last 2 days.... Doing bicep curls, and this hot 16-18 year old, just randomly decides to stroll in front of me, and start to bend over for some good mornings of some sort. Whatever, I had to stop my set. NO MORE PROCASINATION, the logs for back and arm day come in TOMORROW! |
What a great distraction though.....
....bending over in front of me, yum

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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Heya bud workouts look so |