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Questions on Deca and Dianabol


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Posted by: Smacthatass2

I want to do a cycle and ive done some research but not enough to start one. I have a few questions if anyone can help me out.

1.) What is a good estrogen blocker to take with dbol to avoid gyno (is 60x0 good)

2.) I heard Deca Stays in your system for a year, that shit you can buy at GNC that flushes out your system will that flush out the trace of Deca.

3.) Im only 5'8 and 170lbs so what is recommend for injecting Deca for me like 250mg 2 times a week and for Dbol like 4 10mg pill


Posted by: TrojanMan60563

For gyno you can use nolvadex...or Arimidex can be used to prevent it to begin with.

I have doubts that those herbal pills can take the deca from your body.

Deca could be ran 200-600mg per week. A lot of people have done well with 25mg of Dbol so I think your 40mg dose is overkill.


Posted by: Smacthatass2

do i take the nolvadex or arimidex while on the cycle or after and i just want to do either deca or dbol...will i still get good results or should i take both?


Posted by: LAM

where is the test in your cycle ? once the dbol clears from your system you can forget about getting a hard on for a while


Posted by: TrojanMan60563

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smacthatass2
do i take the nolvadex or arimidex while on the cycle or after and i just want to do either deca or dbol...will i still get good results or should i take both?
Arimidex is taken during the cycle and Nolvadex is taken for PCT after....or can be taken during if you get gyno.

If you are willing to inject deca I suggest you get some testosterone instead...and if you want jump start it with 4 weeks of dbol.

Make sure you plan all this out really well and know exactly what you are doing before doing it. Measure twice cut once ya know?


Posted by: Sherpa

hmm, you dont need deca yet. Save that for a cycle sometime in the future after you get a couple test cycles under you belt. I like dbol, but you should not run dbol only. You'll gain good while your on it, then lose alot of what you gained when you stop taking it.

Since this is your first cycle run test eth at 500mg /wk by 2-250mg shots a week. Run this for 10 weeks. Then pct. You'll be happy with the results if you train, and eat well I've seen people put on 20 good pounds with this cycle. You can kick start this cycle by taking 25mg of dbol /day for the first 4 weeks. With a dbol kicker you'll see gains in week 2 at the latest. With test alone it takes 4 to 5 weeks before you'll start seeing any gains.

Run nolva for pct. 6oxo isnt going to cut it.


Posted by: Smacthatass2

what is test eth


Posted by: Smacthatass2

test enanthane right?


Posted by: Sherpa

Yeah test enanthane. It would be your best bet for a first cycle. With doses between 250mg and 750mg /wk most people see very little if any sides, and recover quickly with pct. Everyone is different though.

It also allows for less injections than some other test products. Test should be the base of every cycle. So start off with test, and see how you like it before you add in other substances. You'll get good gains off of 500mg /week. Test allows almost everyone, within a short time, to build up a lot of strength and mass.


Posted by: deeno

Gyno associated with Deca (progesterone) can not be prevented with Nolva or Armidex.


Posted by: Sherpa

Yep, nolva will not help deca gyno, armidex might help a little but wolnt stop it.


Posted by: Tha Don

Quote:
Originally Posted by deeno
Gyno associated with Deca (progesterone) can not be prevented with Nolva or Armidex.
you need vitex for that right?


Posted by: Smacthatass2

what does it mean to recover with pct...take nolvadex after my cycle.....so i take arimidex during or do i just take one or the other after.....i hear dbol converts to estrogen easy what else can I take with eth


Posted by: TrojanMan60563

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smacthatass2
what does it mean to recover with pct...take nolvadex after my cycle.....so i take arimidex during or do i just take one or the other after.....i hear dbol converts to estrogen easy what else can I take with eth
Arimidex is taken during the cycle and the Nolva is used after for PCT. I wouldn't stop the Arimidex until a day before you start Nolva for the PCT.


Posted by: Smacthatass2

whats something good to run with 500mg of eth a week


Posted by: gococksDJS

you could start the cycle off with 25mg's of dbol ED for the first 4 weeks


Posted by: pengers84

You could lower the test and add eq, say 400mg test e and 400mg eq. Im no expert but just an idea


Posted by: deeno

Quote:
Originally Posted by young d
you need vitex for that right?

B-6 at 600mg ed,dostinex,and bromocriptine....


Posted by: gococksDJS

Quote:
Originally Posted by pengers84
You could lower the test and add eq, say 400mg test e and 400mg eq. Im no expert but just an idea
thats not enough EQ...


Posted by: Sherpa

If you want to run something with the test. Run dbol. Run it for 4 weeks. You'll see some gains starting in between a few days and 2 weeks.

To answer your other question "what does it mean to recover durring pct". When your on a cycle and your getting test from somewhere other than your body, your body thinks that it doesnt need to make as much since there is already alot in your blood stream. When you come off of the cycle, your estrogen levels will be high, and test levels will be low. PCT gets your natural test production back to normal, and if your balls srink a little while on cycle, it gets them back to there usual size.


Posted by: Tha Don

Quote:
Originally Posted by pengers84
You could lower the test and add eq, say 400mg test e and 400mg eq. Im no expert but just an idea
you'd need to double that eq if you want to see anything from it


Posted by: deeno

Quote:
Originally Posted by young d
you'd need to double that eq if you want to see anything from it
400mg eq/week should be fine, just up the test to 500mg
400mg/week eq is a fairly standard dose...


Posted by: Tha Don

Quote:
Originally Posted by deeno
400mg eq/week should be fine, just up the test to 500mg
400mg/week eq is a fairly standard dose...
fair enough, just a few guys on here said they saw no results till they upped the dose to around 800mg/wk (lam, cocks, mudge etc..)


Posted by: redspy

EQ is very mild so the starting point IMO is 600mg/week.


Posted by: FishOrCutBait

Quote:
Originally Posted by young d
fair enough, just a few guys on here said they saw no results till they upped the dose to around 800mg/wk (lam, cocks, mudge etc..)
Yeah... Id take what those three said, as gospel...


Posted by: gococksDJS

Quote:
Originally Posted by deeno
400mg eq/week should be fine, just up the test to 500mg
400mg/week eq is a fairly standard dose...
EQ overall is quite a mild steroid. It needs to be run long and hard or not at all. At least 600mg's a week for 10 weeks, but 800mg's would be better. For me at 600mg's of EQ a week, the appetite increase seemed to fade in and out, and completely disappear after week 8.


Posted by: SJ69

or just run the test at 500, the Deca at 300-600 and the d-bol 30mg ed
there you go a simple sure winner, if you wanna mix in a bunch of stuff.
Why worry about detection times w/ deca, are you in MLB?

or just keep it simple --> Test 500mg each week others will debate, but you could get away with injecting just 2ml one time a week using Test E or Cyp


Posted by: Tha Don

Quote:
Originally Posted by SJ69
or just run the test at 500, the Deca at 300-600 and the d-bol 30mg ed
there you go a simple sure winner, if you wanna mix in a bunch of stuff.
Why worry about detection times w/ deca, are you in MLB?

or just keep it simple --> Test 500mg each week others will debate, but you could get away with injecting just 2ml one time a week using Test E or Cyp
i wouldn't run 500mg test and 600mg deca, always more test than deca, personally i feel 500mg test and 200-300mg deca would be a better recommendation



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