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Posted by: camarosuper6

Curious about a possible cycle. Want to keep my muscle or even add some lean muscle and lean up a bit. Im around 235, and would like to drop about 5 percent bodyfat while maintaining my muscle mass (or even adding a few lbs, and yes I realize that is nearly impossible)

Ive read up quite a bit and it seems Tren would be a good choice... or possibly a Test T3 combo... (Test and T3 seems to be the safest, most inexpensive and HPTA friendly choice)

Im planning for a 10-12 weeker.... want to be as liver friendly as possible and HCG IS a possiblity, but it seems its only REALLY needed for Tren unless im mega dosing Test.

What are your thoughts?


Thanks


Posted by: LAM

cutting with test is a very simply and effective way to drop some bf. I say go for it. you can go pretty high with T3 (150-200 mcg/ED) you just have to make sure your protein intake is high.

I always use HCG on cycle but at the minimum keep some on-hand in case you see some atrophy


Posted by: Celtic Bhoy

Yeah get HCG, i thought i wouldnt need it coz i was doin a low dose......how wrong i was.


Posted by: gococksDJS

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Originally Posted by camarosuper6
Curious about a possible cycle. Want to keep my muscle or even add some lean muscle and lean up a bit. Im around 235, and would like to drop about 5 percent bodyfat while maintaining my muscle mass (or even adding a few lbs, and yes I realize that is nearly impossible)

Ive read up quite a bit and it seems Tren would be a good choice... or possibly a Test T3 combo... (Test and T3 seems to be the safest, most inexpensive and HPTA friendly choice)

Im planning for a 10-12 weeker.... want to be as liver friendly as possible and HCG IS a possiblity, but it seems its only REALLY needed for Tren unless im mega dosing Test.

What are your thoughts?


Thanks
If it's your first cycle, ditch the tren. It requires EOD injections and ED is preferred to keep blood levels consistent. Remember, just because test doesn't shut you down like deca doesn't mean it's "HPTA friendly". If you are providing your body with an exogenous hormone, like test enanthate, it has no need to produce testosterone, so it stops, meaning your HPTA is shut down, but PCT will get it going again, and HCG mimics LH which signal the gonads to produce testosterone, but is suppressive to your hypothalamus and pituitary, which is why you don't want HCG during PCT, but your HPTA will be restored with proper PCT.


Posted by: musclepump

My biggest issue is *finding* HCG. Anyone else have that problem? It seems to be more of a commodity these days.


Posted by: gococksDJS

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Originally Posted by musclepump
My biggest issue is *finding* HCG. Anyone else have that problem? It seems to be more of a commodity these days.
It's in the urine of all pregnant women...


Posted by: Mudge

Its been a commodity for awhile, but not impossible to find at all.


Posted by: musclepump

Well my people aren't cool enough to carry it, I suppose


Posted by: TrojanMan60563

Seems like there is a lot of the Chinese HCG going around.


Posted by: Mudge

I used to get the 2000iu chinese amps.


Posted by: TrojanMan60563

currently I have the Organon 5000iu amps. I have yet to use up the 15000iu of that so I'm probably good for awhile.


Posted by: Cardinal

Yes. Test + T3 + maybe E HCl or something like that looks like it would lead to an easier cycle overall.

I'd say go for that as well. You'd be missing out on the strength gains from tren, but that is no biggie if you are not after that sort of thing. Also tren can be bad on the hairline and joints to some degree as well.

I am doing Test/Tren A soonish (this summer). Only reason I am choosing that is that I am afraid the T3 would either cause or worsen my heart arrhythmias and roids don't bother it at all.

Keep in mind if you do tren, you can do Tren Enanthate and avoid the ED injects. I am going with acetate since I have never used it before and may need to clear my system of it hurriedly.



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