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Posted by: Flex

Man, if i hate one team in the NBA, it's the freakin' Pacers. Not to mention Reggie Miller holds the honor of being my most hated athlete of all-time.

It's gonna feel SO nice to beat them in Boston on Sunday. Then they can practice their flops all off season.

Throwing Pierce out for extending his arm and the guy taking a flop is just plain ridiculous.

PUCK THE FACERS!

Posted by: IainDaniel

R u Kidding me. I am cheering for Boston and all. But Paul Pierce is a an idiot. Take the foul like a man, and deal with the shit. He looked like a fuqqing idiot taking, that foul and getting ejected. He is lucky he didn't cost his team the series.

I was about ready to fly down and strangle that bitch for being such and idiot.

Posted by: CaptainDeadlift

I agree with IainDaniel about Pierce. The game was on the line and Pierce reacted foolishly. I've seen much worse fouls without the player being fouled retaliating.

Posted by: Flex

but my god, the entire game the freakin' refs were SO pro-Pacers it was making me sick. Calling Flop fouls on the C's, and then of course the C's not getting any freakin foul calls was driving me crazy.

Yes, Pierce was dumb. But, in his defense, the guy hung onto him after the foul, and Pierce merely extended his arm. He didn't swing at the guy or anything, he just brushed him away, and the guy dives like he's playing World Cup soccer.

FUCk the Pacers, damn do i hate them. (I might hafta kill Reggie Miller after the playoffs.....for free)

Posted by: Eggs

I think Reggie is a huge piece of shit.

I hate players that act. If it is somewhat realistic then its not so bad, but Reggie bumps into a guy and jumps back 7 feet and lands on his back, then tries to get a foul. The guy is just so dirty, makes me wanna bust his teeth in.

On the other hand, I have to admit that Rodman was at least amusing to watch. I kinda miss his funky ass out on the court. Now he was a GOOD cheater.

Posted by: soxmuscle

Just an FYI:

Jermaine O'Neal shot 18 free throws, the Celtics as a team shot 17. The NBA wants nothing more than a Detroit/Indiana rematch with Reggie retiring as its number two story. It's a shame officiating tries and decides outcomes of series and thats what seems to be happening in this one.

I just went to say that the Celtics have played like absolute shit the entire series, Doc Rivers is one of the worst in-game coaches in basketball, nobody thinks they can do it, but yet this team prevailed and forced a game seven. It's to be a battle, and I can't imagine anyone else coming on top but the C's.

Posted by: Flex

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Doc Rivers is one of the worst in-game coaches in basketball

I HOPE you were joking.

Doc did an awesome job this year. He found ways to keep many "controversial" veterans happy with playing time (Gary, Ricky and Toine), as well as get their youth in their to develop. Oh ya, all the while they won the East for the first time in 13 years. again, the guy did a freakin great job...

Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by Flex

He has singlehandedly lost all three games this postseason. He is notoriously known for being a terrible in-game coach, and hes been not just terrible but the worst I have seen in my entire life in these playoffs.

So no, I wasn't joking. He's a terrible in-game coach.

Posted by: Flex

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Ok, so let's see....

He singlehandedly lost all three games? What about the games they won? Does he get ALL the credit for those victories? Cuz you certainly give him ALL the blame for the losses. PLEASE tell me why he's a bad "in-game" coach. I honestly have never heard that, and i have no idea what you're talking about.

Sorry, bro. That's just absurd. You know why the Celts lost those 3 games? Because they got OUTPLAYED. Because Antoine missed a key layup and missed his own rebound in one game. Because they couldn't stop Reggie Miller one game. Because they got killed on the boards and couldn't hit the broadside of a barn in another.

Dude, Doc Rivers does as good a job as any coach in the league could for the Celts. The Celtics haven't understood their roles on the team this well since the days of Bird. And again, they won the conference for the first time in 13 years. But obviously Rivers had nothing to do with that, because it's only on him when they lose, not win.

Lastly, an NBA coach is one of the most overrated people in all sports. PLAYERS win and lose, NOT coaches. I could go out there and coach the Suns or the Heat to victory. YOu know why? Because PLAYERS win for you, and they have better players than many other teams. It's not like football, where you actually hafta make a huge decision every single down on what play to run. It's not like baseball, where you hafta make decisions where guys will bat in the lineup and when to pull a pitcher.
You wanna know why Phil Jackson won so many championships? Sure, he was a good coach. But he also had the greatest athlete of all time on his team (MJ), not to mention argueably the best bigman ever (Shaq) and the best guard at the time (Kobe). Let's see Jackson take the Warriors to a championship. Only then will it prove that coaches make a huge difference.

Go C's

Posted by: soxmuscle

Coaches decide who plays and who doesnt, what to do and what not to do at certain times, etc. They are a key part of each and every game just as we have seen with O'Brien and Pitino over the past five-plus years.

He has been at fault because the way this team wins games is by playing a fast paced, high scoring, full court press kind of game. He constantly avoids this for the "give it to Paul Pierce or Antoine Walker" method and it works from time to time with Pierce as nobody gets to the line better than him, but it never works with Antoine.

He is inconsistent, and basically wrong, how you havent seen that is pretty amazing. I'll point things out tommorow if I can, because I can't think of everything off the top of my head here, drunk and all.

Posted by: Flex

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Coaches decide who plays and who doesnt, what to do and what not to do at certain times, etc. They are a key part of each and every game just as we have seen with O'Brien and Pitino over the past five-plus years.

I agree, coaches decides who plays and who doesn't, and what to do at times. LIke i said, he did a GREAT job at that. Why? Because a) he got the veterans in there when they needed to be AND the rookies playing time to help them develop AND made Ricky Davis become one of the league's top 6th man. b)they won the East

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

He has been at fault because the way this team wins games is by playing a fast paced, high scoring, full court press kind of game. He constantly avoids this for the "give it to Paul Pierce or Antoine Walker" method and it works from time to time with Pierce as nobody gets to the line better than him, but it never works with Antoine.

You don't think he constantly tells them to run? In case you missed it, that has been his outlook the entire season. When you hear Heinsohn screaming "RUN, Celts, RUN", that's b/c he knows what they're supposed to do as well. And when the team doesn't run, and is forced to play a half court game some of the time, (because you can't possibly fast break every single time down), who would you rather give the ball to besides Pierce or Antoine? Payton? Raef? Uh, no. You give it Pierce or Antoine.

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

He is inconsistent, and basically wrong, how you havent seen that is pretty amazing.

Inconsistent and "basically wrong"? Sorry, bro. You still haven't convinced me at all. Besides, alls i've heard all season from the usually negative, coach/player bashing media is good things about Rivers. Dude, they won the East with one star on their team (Pierce), name another team that had that much success with ONE go-to-guy.

I really don't wanna argue this anymore, cuz in my opinion it's not even a question. Besides, we're both C's fans, so let's just say FUCK Indiana

Posted by: soxmuscle

Thats something we can agree on. Go Celts!

Posted by: gr81

what tune are you celts fans singin now, eh bitches.. ah ah

just playin cats n kittens, you know I gotta fucc with'cha. For teh record I will say then I am extremely dissapointed in this sites lack of Playoffs discussion this year, I mean what the fucc. But besides that I have to say that back when I was sayin all that shit about why the Celts aren't a great team and you all jumped on me, it all was apparent in this game seven. Yes they do have young talent, and they have two superscorers on their team, but their lack of execution and good decisions lost them this game seven. Indiana slowed the game down to their tempo and Boston's leaders made horrible decisions, the held the ball, there was no team element, no sharing the basketball, it was all give it to 'Toine and Pierce and let them try and score, which is trouble b/c they both have horrible shot selection. Sorry but its true. They are good players, but they thats a huge problem for them. Anyways, I will hand it to them by saying that they got farther then I thought they would get and got and impressive seed this year in the east. Once they can play team basketball, they may have a future.. we shall see. In the mean time you Boston fans win everything all the time so know your roles and shut your mouths!

lol

Posted by: soxmuscle

FLEX. This is why Doc Rivers is the most frustrating coach in basketball.

Posted by: musclepump

Posted by: Flex

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

FLEX. This is why Doc Rivers is the most frustrating coach in basketball.

You're right.

It's his fault the Celts played like shit, especially their 3 best players. It's his fault Indy hit every three they took. It's his fault they got killed on the boards. And it's his fault they got 7 technicals.

Dude, C's played like shit, plain and simple. Put Red Auerbach, Phil Jackson and Pat Riley as the C's coach in Game 7 and it wouldn't have changed anythig.

The bottom line is this: You could say shoulda, coulda, woulda, but when the time came (Sat night @ 7pm) the Pacers played better and they won.

Posted by: Flex

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Originally Posted by gr81

what tune are you celts fans singin now, eh bitches.. ah ah

It's alright.

I'ma go shine my Superbowl trophy. No, wait, my World Series ring.

Posted by: soxmuscle

Flex -- clearly the team played like absolute shit, and should take most if not all the credit for the loss, but Doc still was a main reason for all this nonsense.

Losing three games at home? Destroying Indiana with Walker out, and then the next game bringing him in and completely changing game plans? Going from a half court defense in the fourth quarter of game two after the full court up tempo defense had worked to perfection the entire game. There are so many instances its incredible, and yes while players do play, the guy cannot do anything right other than give an adequate amount of time to both the youth and the veterans on the team.

Obviously the players play, and the coaches coach, and obviously no coach could have pulled them from that terrible game on saturday night, but its getting in that situation to begin with that Doc must take blame for.

He refused to change game plans, refused to give orders, refused to punish Antoine for being his usual self, refused to talk with the glove after going 0-6 from the three point line. The list goes on and on. This guy just changes things at the wrong times, and doesn't change things at the right time.

You can believe what you want, and when I think about the 2004/2005 Boston Celtics, I will think that ultimately the players let this team down, but in the back of my mind will be the piss poor coaching job that Doc did all season long that rightfully so ended the season even though they were the superior team.

Posted by: musclepump

My Sonics are playing like shit. Let's focus on that!

Posted by: gr81

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It's alright.

I'ma go shine my Superbowl trophy. No, wait, my World Series ring.

preciscely why you celts fans lose the right to complain! lol

btw whats a super bowl...? I have never heard of that up here in seattle, is it some sort of championship game perhaps?

Posted by: gr81

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My Sonics are playing like shit. Let's focus on that!

man that game one was the worst defensive game I have ever seen. Some one needs to step up and put Parker on his ass big time! Plus we are even more fucked with Radmanovic gone for the series and Allen questionable for game 2... gawd dawuumm. They gotta step it up and put that loss behind them

Posted by: musclepump

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But I doubt they will. We're fucked!

Posted by: gr81

I was at the Sac game when they clinched the series and I am also goin thursday night. They can't afford to go back to seattle down 2-0. This is truly gonna test what kindof team they are, thats for sure.

Posted by: Decker

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Originally Posted by gr81

That blows that Ray went down with the ankle problem. Even on one leg he's still the best pure shooter around. I've seen Ray light it up many a time even with bad wheels. I'm still pissed the Bucks traded him.

Posted by: gr81

yup, one playoff game with the bucks he dropped 47 with bad tendinitis where he said he could only shoot jumpers and not cutting.. he's fuckin incredible. I was actually pissed when Payton was traded for him, but looking back Allen had become a great leader of this team. We need badly to resign him this offseason.

Posted by: Decker

Yeah, he is incredible. The only shortfall to his game is that, at times, he picks up cheap fouls in bunches. I was against the trade b/c of the disparity in age btn Allen and Payton plus the salary that Payton wanted at the time was too rich for Milwaukee's blood so he would be a one year wonder in any case. Although I do like Desmond Mason...he's working out pretty well. I hope Seattle can afford Ray, Milwaukee couldn't.

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