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Posted by: james_75

IM about to start a cycle of winny 50mg tabs
one a day for 6 weeks

bad good and what else should i add?


Posted by: gococksDJS

no test?


Posted by: min0 lee

horrible idea. winstrol is a very mild anabolic and androgenic steroid. winstrol does not get you cut up or ripped as most people would like to believe. only diet and cardio do that. the small gains that you would get from a winstrol only cycle would not be worth having near zero HDL levels for several months after. winstrol totally screws up your lipid profile.

if you are trying to avoid using needles just stay natural or get yourself some prohormones that use either an oral or transdermal delivery system


Posted by: min0 lee

a common saying is "If your not ready for needles, your not ready for anabolics"


Posted by: gococksDJS

Quote:
Originally Posted by min0 lee
a common saying is "If your not ready for needles, your not ready for anabolics"
haha, that sounds familiar


Posted by: Tha Don

Quote:
Originally Posted by min0 lee
horrible idea. winstrol is a very mild anabolic and androgenic steroid. winstrol does not get you cut up or ripped as most people would like to believe. only diet and cardio do that. the small gains that you would get from a winstrol only cycle would not be worth having near zero HDL levels for several months after. winstrol totally screws up your lipid profile.

if you are trying to avoid using needles just stay natural or get yourself some prohormones that use either an oral or transdermal delivery system
Quote:
Originally Posted by min0 lee
a common saying is "If your not ready for needles, your not ready for anabolics"
ROFL!


Posted by: ZECH

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Originally Posted by young d
ROFL!
Yep, Mino jumps in on the anabolics!


Posted by: musclepump

Go min0. Tell 'em. And yeah, using Winstrol alone is... just... not smart.


Posted by: Witmaster

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Originally Posted by dg806
Yep, Mino jumps in on the anabolics!
No doubt! "coming out" by chance?


Posted by: GymJamo

Oral only "can" be done, but is not a good idea beause you cant take as much or as long or stack them with equal effect that injection gives becuase of the build up of C17 aa in them that will mess up your liver so you cant take as much if your sane that is.

If i was you i would take 1ad and 4 ad (from england) or m1t and 4 ad if your feeling brave. i would keep the dose small at first to see how it effects you (mainly m1t) use RXT or nolva for PCT and take milk thistle @1000mg for liver protection if i was you.


Posted by: ZECH

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witmaster
No doubt! "coming out" by chance?
You never know
At least, he is paying attention!


Posted by: james_75

i hear test messes w/ ya pretty bad though
give me a good test/ winny stack


Posted by: LAM

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Originally Posted by james_75
i hear test messes w/ ya pretty bad though
whoever told you that doesn't know jack shit about the human endocrine system. test is what makes a man a man.

if you were to do a winny only cycle your body would shut down it's natural test production and you would have nothing left but elevated levels of winstrol. winstrol is a terrible steroid to use by itself especially when you look at having very low HDL levels for months afterwards.

what exactly are you trying to accomplish on this cycle ? what are your stats ?


Posted by: Tha Don

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Originally Posted by LAM
whoever told you that doesn't know jack shit about the human endocrine system. test is what makes a man a man.
well said.


Posted by: westb51

Good Enough Never Is


Posted by: james_75

well im playing college football at the div. 2 level
im 6 foot 1 220 lbs
bench 370
pretty strong just wanted a little more to set me apart
i want to get bigger but not fat like ive seen so many of my friends who juice
truthfully i dont like the ideas of shots but its not ruled out


Posted by: Tha Don

10 weeks of test enan @ 500mg a week (that would be 2x250mg shots every 3-4 days)
if you wanted to run an oral like dbol to kickstart then you could, go with 25mg for the first 4 weeks

that will put plenty of mass and strength on you, fat gain is down to diet


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