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Posted by: tommyboy11

Hey all just was gonna start my second cycle tommorow, it consists of

100 mgs anadrol ed weeks 1-4 ( one in morning one in afternoon )
500 mgs test enanthate weeks 1-12 ( 250 mgs mon- 250 mg thursday)
40 mgs nolvadex weeks 14-18
500 mgs milk thistle daily throughout cycle

What you guys think, im gonna take my first shot thursday, and start on the anadrols tommorow, How does the pct look, i did not put in hcg because i did not get any atrophy at all on my last cycle one bit, but anyways tell me what yous think, thanks in advance.

Posted by: TJ Cline

Looks good, you might jack up the Nolvadex to 60 the first week, and I would only go for 10 weeks total on test...I think down-regulation kicks in by 10 weeks.

Posted by: Pirate!

I agree about using a higher dose of nolva for the first few weeks. I'd still use some HCG on cycle for a better recovery during pct.

Posted by: Mudge

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Looks good, you might jack up the Nolvadex to 60 the first week, and I would only go for 10 weeks total on test...I think down-regulation kicks in by 10 weeks.

Downregulation of androgen receptors is a myth, they upregulate and last for a matter of hours before death.

Posted by: 19-chief

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I agree about using a higher dose of nolva for the first few weeks. I'd still use some HCG on cycle for a better recovery during pct.

i don't know much about d'rol yet but i agree that you should run hcg anyway. considering you didn't atrophy last time, maybe not throughout so much as 2500iu's over the last 2 weeks of injects. the faster you get back up to speed, the faster you solidify gains. oh yeah, and keep extra nolva on hand just in case.
are you taking nolva or tamoxifen citrate? remember, there is a strength difference... 2:3, i think.

Posted by: Mudge

Drol will suppress like anything else, but more than anything else is pisses off my prostate.

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by Mudge

Downregulation of androgen receptors is a myth, they upregulate and last for a matter of hours before death.

I will have to research that one, I have read scientific research that confirms it but that was over 10 years ago. Also my experience and the experience of others I have known who did use steroids leads me to believe down-regulation is true. It certainly is a documented hormonal possibility, it is explained in some detail in basic Anatomy and Physiology...

Posted by: Tha Don

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

is this why a lot of guys change esters?

i've seen some cycles on MT where a guy will run say enth for 6 weeks, then switch to cyp for a futher 6 weeks, i thought it was odd but some of the guys said it would make for better gains, i never really bought into it though

Posted by: Mudge

I know of an NPC guy who switches between cyp and enan every 6 months, not 6 weeks though.

Downregulation is not a problem, SHBG is. If proviron worked as well as it was supposed to, I'd be burning the stuff up!

500mg of test in, and a couple percent of it actually useable - sucks.

Posted by: Tha Don

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Originally Posted by Mudge

Downregulation is not a problem, SHBG is. If proviron worked as well as it was supposed to, I'd be burning the stuff up!

SHBG?

what is the problem with proviron? i've heard nothing but good things about it so far

Posted by: LAM

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Originally Posted by young d

SHBG?

what is the problem with proviron? i've heard nothing but good things about it so far

SHBG - sex hormone binding globulin

Posted by: 19-chief

sex hormone binding globulin: the concentration of SHBG affects the amount of testosterone available to the body’s tissues.

Posted by: tommyboy11

thanks guys for the responses, i will up the nolva to 60 mg the first week, and yeah i have plenty on hand incase of any gyno symptoms, but i think im gonna go the whole 12 weeks with the test i might as well ony a additional 2 weeks. Also started the drol today and first shot of test tommorow, i tell you i had an awesome workout today i dont know if it had anything to do with the drol, but i def felt more aggressive and not as tired, ill have to see how i react after a week or so though, well wish me luck, take care all

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