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Originally Posted by P-funk
some people are just strong in certain rep ranges. I am the same way with my squats and deadlifts. I am good for a rep or two but after that I pretty much eat it.
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
I didn't know what to expect with the bottom squats. Been a while since I've done these, and I've never done them olympic style. I got one solid rep, then paused for a few seconds on the rack at the bottom and went for a second. I failed a few inches off the rack but kept pushing. I slowly went back onto the rack but continued to push with all my might for another 5-10 seconds after contacting the rack.
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
Your workouts are awesome. They look like a ton of fun. What is this dinasaur training you speak of? any links? First you introduce me to westside, now this... whats next.. haha
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Originally Posted by MonStar
Are these starting from the bottom position?
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Originally Posted by CaptainDeadlift
How would squats off the pins differ from pausing in the hole?
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yea, i used to keep swinging as well. But with practice i learnt to use my legs to prevent that. I can do 3 sets 11 reps each. But i dont think i am doing it right as a dont feel anything much in my abs
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Originally Posted by P-funk
Looks like a brutal workout.
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Indeed it was. All the people at my gym give me weird looks when they see me finishing a set where the last repetition takes like 10 seconds to complete and I go for yet another.
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Originally Posted by shiznit2169
lol, i get those looks all the time. Usually for pullups or curls, i struggle to get up the last rep which takes a good 10 seconds but i keep trying to go for more and most of the time, i get it but after like 15+ seconds! People think i am crazy
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Yeah, people are pussies. I mean, I understand the whole high volume approach, but you still should have to exert some level of effort. I love the people who spend 90 minutes in the gym and don't break a sweat.
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Originally Posted by Rocco32
Damn, looking good in here buddy! Dinosaur training's working for you eh?
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Originally Posted by P-funk
Not really upright row in a clean. More of a shrug under. It shouldn't look like a jacked up reverse curl. Dorp the quarter front squat and squat clean all the way. I know it is rough because you have strength to throw up the weight. I have the same problem. That is why my coach is making me just learn the basics at light weight and not go all out. If you can really get the form of a good squat clean you can do a lot more weight.
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Yeah, I know you're right. I'm working my way there. I'll really focus on getting deep under the weight next time. I appreciate the tip.
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Originally Posted by P-funk
the real trick is to focus on it with about 60 or 70% of the weight you can use. Otherwise it is tough to get the proper muscle control to make the movement smooth. It is very complex (and sometimes annoying).
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Maybe I'll do some cleans and presses instead for the time being. That will limit the weight I can use, but still make the movement really challenging when I have to press it. What do ya think?
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Originally Posted by P-funk
don't do high reps. Do tons and tons of sets with low weight. Just sets of 2's or singles. Like sometimes I may do about 20sets of doubles with 155lbs. That is it. It beats you up, the weight is light enough to work on form and speed and the volume is high enough to kick your ass. Good technique is everything with these lifts. You can pretty much do them every workout as long as you are using a lower intensity and just hammering the technique.
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Oh, by the way P-funk, I did 8 sets of 3 with 135 with 30 second rest intervals on cleans. It was too light I think, if that makes sense. The weight was so light that I was practically throwing the bar through the celing on the way up. However, I was dropping under it much better. I'm gonna keep up with this method for a bit though. I think it is definitely improving my form.
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
soxmuscle
Yessir, and liking every minute of it. It's definitely more my style. I'm not gonna say that I'll never do something else; however, I do feel as though the majority of my training from now on will be low volume and high intensity. DeadBolt Glad to hear you're getting back on track. You have a lot of potential I think, and you would probably do quite well with a routine like HIT. I'm sure you have the mental drive for it. Deadlifts 135 x 5 225 x 3 275 x 1 315 x 10 + 2 Bench Press 45 x 5 95 x 3 135 x 1 185 x 10 + 3 Turkish Getups 37.5 x 17 + 3 Side Bends 77.5 x 20 + 4 Curls 45 x 5 65 x 3 85 x 1 95 x 10 + 1 I had a really invigorating workout today. I got a nice post workout high from it, and my stretching was really intense. I just felt really good coming out of the gym today. Deadlifts looked good. I hit my target number of reps, and eeked out another 2 after several deep breaths. That last one came up really slow, but steady. Bench press also looked good in terms of the weight I moved. Honestly, I probably whimped out here a little bit, as evidenced by the fact that I got far more rest-pause reps out than with the other exercises. Unfortunately, with no spotter, I have to be a tad more conservative on this lift. I haven't worked with this rep range in a while, so it's harder to tell how much I have left in me. I will get better once again after a couple more workouts like this. Also, on the bright side, my form was really spot on until the very end. I have the utmost confidence I will add 5 pounds, and probably 10 pounds, to this and still hit 10 reps. Turkish getups skyrocketed 6 repetitions from the last time. Enough said. Added 2.5 pounds to the dumbbells I used for the side bends. I'm questioning whether I will smoothly add another 2.5 next week. I have been steadily increasing in this exercise for a while, so I'm about due for a little plateau. But hey, I won't complain if the gains keep coming. I smashed my previous record on curls at this weight by 3 repetitions. Curls have always been one of my worst lifts too. If I add 5 pounds next week without losing a rep I will be really impressed because that 10th barely came. All in all, I'm glad I went a little lighter. I'm sure I'll work back into heavier weights, but I need to learn to cycle the rep range a little more. Well, off to the beach at 12:30! |
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Heya bud! Damn good lookin w/o! Awsome numbers!!!
Soon enough I will be starting my new bulking cycle...you think HIT would be alright for that? Also would you happen to have anything I can read up on it? I know the gist of it but am curious about the total package! |
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Hell yea bud go get that checked out....don't be like me. I'm perm fucked now and theres nothing I can do about it. Get them to give you an MRI and if they can't try an X-ray that will even show whats wrong most of the time just not as detailed. Best of luck bro!
I'll try to check the book out...I hope its not one of those monster like 3000 page books LOL I'm not much of a reader. |
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
I went to the ER today. No broken bones. It's a shoulder dislocation. Probably just some stretched connective tissue. They just want me to call an orthopedist in a few days. Most likely he will just tell me a couple of stretches and minor rehab movements so I don't get a "frozen shoulder." As is, I just have to keep the bitch in a sling for a week or so till the pain subsides. Hopefully I should be back to lifting in no time at all.
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
I went to the ER today. No broken bones. It's a shoulder dislocation. Probably just some stretched connective tissue. .
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Actually, I just looked up what a sublexation is. That does sound more like what happened. Otherwise it probably wouldn't have just popped back into place so easily.
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Originally Posted by P-funk
right, a sublexation is when the bone pops out of the joint but it pops back in on its own.
a dislocation is when the bone pops out of the joint and needs to be "re-set" by a specialist. Chances are if you went into an ER or to a general practitioner they will say dislocation because they don't know what the fuck they are talking about. if you went to a sports medecine specialist, orthopedic surgeon or physical therapist they will say sublexatio because they know what they are talking about (some of them at least). so good news...not a dislocation. bad news.....now that you sublexed it you will have some instablity and a greater posibility for dislocation or more sublexations. maybe some cool cracking sounds when you move too like I have. So, make sure you do some shoulder stability work to keep things healthy and smooth in there. |
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Alright, so I went to the doctor this morning (A sports doctor thank goodness). His diagnosis was good. Basically he said I'm healing well, and my rotator cuff strength is quite good. He said it will probably be about 2 weeks before I can go back to work, and in the mean time I should attend 3 physical therapy sessions per week.
I didn't bother asking about my return to weight training just yet. I'll get that from him in 2 weeks, or maybe during one of my PT sessions, when it's time to get back to work as well. This is going to be the longest I have gone without hardcore lifting in the past couple of years. Bah! |
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Hey glad to hear its nothing thats gonna knock ya out like mine bro!
Hey don't worry the weights aren't going anywhere....they will be there to kick your ass in a few weeks! |
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Originally Posted by P-funk
maybe you could train your legs in the meantime? Or even train the other arm by itself.
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
I always thought it would be a bad idea to only train one arm....it would cause you to be unbalnced or something? Not sure where i got that from but it would make sense to me.
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Originally Posted by P-funk
actually with an injury it is the best thing you can do. Your body will give you some crossover effect to the non-working side as it struggles to remain balanced. The worst thing you can do is simply not train your upper body (the perfectly good side in this case) at all! You have worked to gain to much strength to just let both sides weaken up. The weaker side will catch up much quiker than if you just stopped training. the main thing to do is train the good side like you normally would and once you get the OK from your PT start working on building up your strength back into the non-working side and getting back your active ROM via lifting in a pain free ROM and stretching.
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Originally Posted by P-funk
I wouldn't stretch yet.
the PT's are (or should be) pretty good about stretching you and showing you what to do. the reason i say don't start to soon is because if your doctor hasn't told you what ROM you should be stretching through wait for the PT to tell you. They usually have a plan like the first 2 weeks try and get through 0-90 degrees of flexion, the next weeks increase....know what I mean? |
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Originally Posted by P-funk
I wouldn't stretch yet.
the PT's are (or should be) pretty good about stretching you and showing you what to do. the reason i say don't start to soon is because if your doctor hasn't told you what ROM you should be stretching through wait for the PT to tell you. They usually have a plan like the first 2 weeks try and get through 0-90 degrees of flexion, the next weeks increase....know what I mean? |
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Yea I learned this last semester in my exercise science class but I never learned about the unilateral movement and cross over affect bit. I guess in time I'll get to it!!!
Thanks I appreciate it my man....but where were you when I tore my cuff LOL! I kept very active with lots of leg work each week and still used my arm with the fire dept etc but did no direct heavy lifting. |
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Oh well, it looks like you're getting back into it nonetheless. I can't wait to get more into the meat of the exercise science courses. How are you liking the major so far anyway? I remember you switched around the same time I did a while ago, but I have been going on an extremely part time basis for a while, so I have yet to get into the major-specific courses really.
On another note, I did that workout I laid out previously today: 3 sets of hack squats, one arm overhead presses, one arm bent rows, and situps. Honestly, it was a cakewalk. I'm so used to going to failure and beyond that this workout was like taking a shit: it took a little bit of effort, but it still stunk. |
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
School is good. Last semestet I took some really awsome courses but this semester I'm taking bread and butter core courses that will transfer over to my next college. I wont start the classes me and you are interested in until I transfer over which is hopefull next semester or the one after. Can't wait to get into those classes man I lvoe that shit. And I think once I do that I will take some extra courses just for the hell of it....simply to have more knowledge ya know?
Glad ya got to workout! Thats friggin hilarious....great analaogy LOL. Better then not working out at all though right? |
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Yeah, those general ed courses get in the way. Heh. Really though, it will be awesome once we get down and dirty.
Don't get me wrong, I was happy to workout; I was just a little dissapointed for obvious reasons. I certainly don't regret the workout though! |
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Glad things are lookin good for ya bud!!! Told ya man you'd be fine and in no time you'll be right back at benching twice your BW lol!!1
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Originally Posted by Rocco32
Hope all goes well and take care of the arm. You can have it back stronger than ever if you listen to the docs and do the exercises consistently!
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Heya bud looks like you are rollin along!!! Glad everything is going good. Just poppin in to say whats up and check on your rehab...
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Thanks man, I am definitely improving. My shoulder gets a tiny bit better every day. I'm going to whip that bitch into shape in no time!
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Damn straight bro!!!! I am doin the same with mine....trying to get strength back every day. I need to get a new theraband though b/c mine broke. Just snapped and I ordered one from a local supplier but that was 2 weeks ago so I need to find a place that sells a half way decent one by me!
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
It's all about the Internet man. I'm sure you can find one online somewhere.
Alright, so I did my 30 minutes of cardio kinda late last night, but I did it nonetheless. I quickly sped off to the gym before closing time to day to get in my workout. I whipped through my workout in about 30 minutes. I did some horizontal hack squats, unilateral overhead pressing, Yates' rows, and decline situps. I also did some extremely light overhead pressing and lateral raises with my injured shoulder. I'm talking like 5 pounds on the laterals, and 10-15 pounds on the overhead presses. Also, as a side note, I decided to press my luck and slowly acclimate the weight on my rows. I was able to go quite heavy without and shoulder issues cropping up. I'm not sure I could do the same with a pronated grip, but I hit 225 for a set of 5 at the end. That's a good sign my strength hasn't wained much, especially since I was using 60 sec rest intervals and the 225 was my 3rd working set. |
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Originally Posted by Rocco32
Glad your doing better Cow, your doing it the smart way
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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
Looks like you are well on your way to a full recovery!
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Originally Posted by Rocco32
That's great you like stretching. I really need to do more, my mobility is limited but sretching is VERY uncomfortable for me.
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Hey hey half baked whats shakin!!!
Sounds like a good weekend....yea my and my boys are gonna smoke up tonight. I was like great way to start a bulk LOL! |
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Congrats on the golds gig....I tried to get into a few gyms last year but none of em hired me. I think it is really worth your wild to go with it....all the reasons you listed are great! ou may not make as much $ but if you are saving more then before you will make out in the end! Off to work but catch ya later! |
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
I applied at a different one a while ago and didn't get the job. I really hope I get it. It pays $300/week + $40 per membership sold (At least that's what I was quoted last time I applied). The claim that most people sell at least 1 membership daily. In the end that would be more than I make now, so I hope it's true.
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
For some reason you don't strike me as the smokin' type. And yeah, the munchies do wonders for packing on the mass, haha.
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
For some reason you don't strike me as the smokin' type. And yeah, the munchies do wonders for packing on the mass, haha.
I applied at a different one a while ago and didn't get the job. I really hope I get it. It pays $300/week + $40 per membership sold (At least that's what I was quoted last time I applied). The claim that most people sell at least 1 membership daily. In the end that would be more than I make now, so I hope it's true. |
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Wow thats a nice pay week. Provided you sell a few memberships and I'm sure once you get good those will be cake to seel! Best of luck to ya bud!
I don't do it every day but I do it enough heh. I just hate how hungry I get afterwards LOL. |
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Originally Posted by Seanp156
Hey CP, what's up... I think it's a little awkward you, DB, and I have all had shoulder injuries... Also what's odd is I'm job hunting right now as well, kinda sucks though, just had an interview yesterday and didn't get the job, but there's a few more places I can try. Anyway, hope you have a fast recovery .
I'm wanting to start a Westside routine next week (well I'll probably mostly be testing my 1RM next week)... The only thing is, I have really fully recovered from a hip strain I got during the summer... Shoulders feel fine now, but my right hip still aches a bit sometimes. What do you do for full body stretches? Got any links to some info I could read up on? |
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Yeah, it sucks. Thankfully I think my injury is fairly easy to recover from relative to DB's. What type of injury did you get?
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Originally Posted by Seanp156
I'm pretty sure my injury's less severe than DB's as well. Both my shoulders and hips I guess were techinally strained, but the right sides of both were/are far worse than the left... I'm not exactly sure how it happened with the shoulders, mostly I just recall doing pullups and there'd be a clicking sound in my right shoulder at the top of each rep... The next time I was at the gym I was doing incline flyes, and I think I went a little too low and it got pretty painful. With the hips, I had changed my stance from fairly narrow to fairly wide without gradually changing it, then that same day I did some DB lunges... I guess that didn't mix well either
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Originally Posted by Seanp156
Yes, I scretch after every workout now, and sometimes on off days too... I'm not exactly sure how to stretch my shoulders other than some basic stuff I learned back in middle school playing tennis... my hammies are very flexible though, I can easily touch my hand to my toes sitting down with a straight back...
When the injuries happened, I didn't stretch every single workout, but if I did legs, I generally always stretched them afterwards. |
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
You should try stretching every day. I honestly think it makes a difference. Occasionally my left hip would bother me slightly after being at work all day. Wieght training never seemed to aggrivate it. It was totally ignoreable, so that's what I normally do. I recently started trying to stretch every day and it hasn't acted up once since I began.
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
I just came back from my Gold's interview. I think it went well. She gave me a week pass to the gym so I can meet the people and see how it works a little. She said she's gonna call my references Monday/Tuesday and get back to me later in the week to probably set up a 2nd interview. Yay.
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Hit up some physical therapy this morning, then followed that up with a workout. I did hack squats, unilateral overhead pressing, chinups, and decline situps. Finished up with some good ol' stretching.
I just came back from my Gold's interview. I think it went well. She gave me a week pass to the gym so I can meet the people and see how it works a little. She said she's gonna call my references Monday/Tuesday and get back to me later in the week to probably set up a 2nd interview. Yay. |
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Hit up Gold's on their free week offer today. Man it's so much better than my gym, heh. I did some deadlifts, DB presses, bent rows, and decline situps. I actually did DB presses with my bad shoulder. I started with 10 pounds and worked my way up slowly. I got to about 40s before I decided that any heavier might actually do some harm. I have a tiny bit of pain right off my chest then it's gravy. Actually, really on the first couple of reps hurt a little, then it dissipates after that. I followed up with a set to total failure with my good arm and some real weight.
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Awsome bro...progress thats what its all about. Don't try and break and records jsut yet just strengthen it up man! Believe me in no time you'll be back nto normal! Your doin great bro! |
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Awsome w/o bro....congrats on putting pressure on the shoulder. Maybe you should hold off on BB squats for another week or so and let that shoulder heal up nicely. Or do em nice and light!
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Originally Posted by boilermaker
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Beginner question, but what exactly is a PR set? And is it best to do one set until failure on chinups, or should I be doing 3 sets? |
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Originally Posted by boilermaker
Thanks for the info Cowpimp. This is starting to remind me of all the swing thoughts I go through with golf. I usually end up playing my best when I just hit the damn ball. Oh well, I'm a quick study.
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
hyperextensions. crap, i knew i was missing one part of the circuit training you love.
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
4 Cycles - 60sec RI
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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
that sounds brutal! |
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Originally Posted by Rocco32
Looking good Cow, nice to see you recovering nicely! That does look like a brutal circuit!!
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Heya bud glad to see your back to some lifting!!!! Good shit man!
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
Youre getting stronger and stonger each workout. When do you imagine your shoulder will be 100%?
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Yeah, I decided to get a little extra sleep today...
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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
Extra sleep is always a good thing!
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Originally Posted by Seanp156
Good looking w/o CP
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Originally Posted by Seanp156
On that circuit, I assume the squats are just bodyweight, right? As well as hyper extensions? Also, what are the rock climbers?
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Originally Posted by P-funk
mountain clibers are brutal! Fuck doing them for reps though. Try doing them for time like 45sec per set.
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Originally Posted by boilermaker
Hey Cowpimp, you incorporate some of the most unique training exercises that I see on here. Keep up the good work. I'm sure that they translate very well to functional strength and agility. I think you'd be the last person I'd want to see against me in an obstacle course race!
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Originally Posted by P-funk
Because it is harder...lol. You just more in. 20reps is nothing. Going for time is a better test of local muscular endurance.
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Originally Posted by Seanp156
Congrats on getting the job CP... What exactly are "Pushups Plus?"
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Originally Posted by boilermaker
Hey CP, glad to hear you got the job at Gold's. You'll bring alot of good knowledge there. I've always found that its easier to look for a job when you already have one, eh.
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Thank you sir. I read about the push-up plus in an article on EliteFTS about shoulder rehab. Check out this link:
http://www.fitrex.com/fitness_info/exercise710.html |
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Originally Posted by boilermaker
You'll do fine in sales. It's 90% about being able to interact with people. From what I've seen on here, you have no problem with that. Throw in the fact that you are in an environment and selling a product that you are totally comfortable with already and you'll be off to the races. Do a little searcing on "partnership selling" or "relationship selling" if you want something to read up on.
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Anyway, it was a nice workout, and a girl with a real nice ass wearing spandex decided to do lots of bent over stretching right in front of me while I was stretching. Needless to say I left to gym very refreshed for an early morning workout.
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Originally Posted by DeadBolt
Good lookin weight man!!! Keep up the good work and good idea on not going to failure! Thats the only thing that sucks about my shoulder and prrs....low volume but you have to hit failure so its hell on the shoulder sometimes!
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Originally Posted by yellowmoomba
Impressive Sumos CP!!
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
Thanks YM. I'm actually stronger conventional, but I felt like I was due for different variation of deadlifts.
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Originally Posted by yellowmoomba
How'd you like the sumos? Sumos hit my glutes pretty good.
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Originally Posted by CowPimp
That's kind of why I did them. It seems to call for more involvement from my hip extensors.
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Originally Posted by P-funk
i hate sumos they just feel weird to me. maybe it is because i am so short i have very little ROM?
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Originally Posted by Seanp156
I'd like to do sumos more often, but they tend to bother my hip... I wonder if I can work up to being fine with them, or if it's just that my body's mechanics are no good for them.
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Originally Posted by P-funk
keep your chin up and your elbows up.
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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
Keeping your chin up causes you to lean back into the movement, keeping the weights CG over the heel instead of over the toes.
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Originally Posted by P-funk
I usually look forward or slightly down (neck neutral) when I back squat. When I front squat I keep my chin up and look up for two reasons:
1) to help me sit back more and keep the bar over my center of gravity. 2) Because my flexability is good in my shoulders so I can get my elbows points straight ahead which, if I keep my chin down, causes me to pussh the bar into my adadms apple and loose oxygen. I have almost passed out before. |