Originally Posted by young d

i'm currently cutting on clen, but i'm feeling really drained, and i'm not getting the stimulant or appitite supression effects from the clen that i normally get from the eca (or other thermo supps)

Originally Posted by Purdue Power

Your blood pressure will be way too high if you run both. I made the mistake of taking dbol and ECA at the same time, and I felt sick as a dog. I would go with green tea extract instead of ECA. You could still run the Caffeine and throw in some Yohimbine. That is what I do when I am on Clen.

Originally Posted by young d

any problem in running these together? i'm currently cutting on clen, but i'm feeling really drained, and i'm not getting the stimulant or appitite supression effects from the clen that i normally get from the eca (or other thermo supps)

i'm looking at running either eph. or caff. or green tea or something to get me through my workouts, as i'm struggling to find the focus to train right now, just wanted to make sure this would be okay?

if so could i run ECA during the day whilst on the clen? or should i just use it before i work out?

thanks

Originally Posted by LAM

both clen and ephedrine stimulate the sympathetic nervous systems (SNS). taking them both can overload it causing some pretty bad temporary sides so pick on or the other.

if you really want to lose bf fast just use DNP

Originally Posted by young d

LAM are you serious about that? i hear DNP is pretty dangerous stuff

the main problem i have is losing muscle when i cut, i'm only cutting on the clen right now due to going on holiday in a couple of weeks time, but in future i will run test, and t3... maybe tren too

that sound like my best route?

Originally Posted by LAM

DNP is dangerous but so are a lot of bb supps if not used wisely.