Originally Posted by buildingup

Also wanna know if im the only one out there who doesnt bother with this method!

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Well, if you're gaining weight, then you are bulking. However, it is quite possible to bulk at a very slow pace and maintain low body fat levels year round, but your progress is going to be slower. Cycling bulking and cutting is great because your body has a hard time adapting to the massive changes in caloric intake.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I have never bulked in my life.....went from 155 to 215 over 4 or 5 years....my waist was 32 inches the entire time..

Originally Posted by buildingup

i just want to know if you can consistantly gain muscle on a 2400 calorie diet, refer to my stats mentioned previously. Cause im just not happy with adding fat, even though i would be successful in a bulking phase!

Originally Posted by buildingup

i never do any of these stages and i make good progress, my strength on all exercises increases every week! i take in 2400 calories a day, train every other day, im around 194 lbs (not quite sure what weight is cos i check progress through strength as i find weight to be inaccurate as an indicator) and im 5 foot 10.5 inches.

Originally Posted by ChrisROCK

Uhhh, then you were bulking! Whether you intended to or not...you were taking in enough calories to allow you to put on that kind of weight. By definition, that's bulking.

Originally Posted by buildingup

any suggestions on calorie intake, keep in mind im allergic to fat!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by buildingup

lol im not literally allergic to fat i just cant stand its plodgyness and how useless it is!

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I have never bulked in my life.....went from 155 to 215 over 4 or 5 years....my waist was 32 inches the entire time..

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Then you were bulking. You were bulking while minimizing fat gains, but you were bulking. That is to say, you were eating calories beyond maintenance levels.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

read the entire thread before you comment.....I don't care to repeat myself..

post #14....read it.

so from conception to maturity we are bulking C.P.?

Originally Posted by buildingup

i just want to know if you can consistantly gain muscle on a 2400 calorie diet, refer to my stats mentioned previously

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

We just disagree on terminology then; when people say they are bulking they are referring to eating so many calories that they put on fat and muscle at the same time while they train to get bigger .

What I did was cause skeletal Hypertrophy by using resonance training, you can be simple about that and call it a "bulk" but that is a very inaccurate way to look at it.

Originally Posted by LAM

personally I wouldn't describe a diet that is 100 cals over maintenace as a bulking diet.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Then you were bulking. You were bulking while minimizing fat gains, but you were bulking. That is to say, you were eating calories beyond maintenance levels.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

O We're getting into semantics about terminology here. Let's just say that you have to eat a caloric surplus to gain weight and muscle mass, whether it be a large surplus that leads to some excess fat gain or a small surplus that minimizes fat gain. When you want to begin defining it as bulking it up to you.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

You cannot gain the kind of weight you did without increasing your caloric intake. Of course you were causing hypertrophy. That's what happens when you bulk...

Originally Posted by LAM

you are correct it is semantics, but look at it this way. person A wants to gain LBM with little to zero fat gains. he goes 150 cals over maintenance. Person B wants to gain as much LBM as possible with no regard to fat gains. he goes 750 cals over maintenance. the difference is obvious

Originally Posted by Psycho Dad

If your arms were more than 15 inches I might listen to you.
Nothing funnier than a skinny geek arguing semantics.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Okay, don't listen to me; I couldn't care less. I'm sorry you assess people's knowledge of resistance training solely on their physique.

Originally Posted by Psycho Dad

If your arms were more than 15 inches I might listen to you.
Nothing funnier than a skinny geek arguing semantics.

Originally Posted by ChrisROCK

What does being skinny and arguing semantics have to do with anything? LOL...

Do you EVEN KNOW what semantics means? Without looking it up...

What a tool....

Originally Posted by Psycho Dad

I assess peoples training knowledge by several things....but on the net???? I just don't want to hear what a teenager with 14.5 arms has to say.....especially when he/she is trying to sound like the expert of all experts.

Originally Posted by Psycho Dad

Go out and but a Lexicon...............then get back to me fatty.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

You cannot gain the kind of weight you did without increasing your caloric intake. Of course you were causing hypertrophy. That's what happens when you bulk...

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Just don't see your point in trying to make me agree with your definition of the term " bulk." I see it as gaining weight...fat and muscle at the same time in a attempt to get bigger and stronger quickly.
You see it as any kind of growth at all.


And again we just disagree on the use of the term.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I wasn't trying to make you agree on the definition. This is what I said:Yes you were....as your last post to me shown below ( post #26) clearly shows.




I also made an allusion to the term lean bulking, which I use to discuss someone who wants to gain weight, but minimize fat gains. People seemed to ignore that.

Define bulking however you want, I could care less.Then quit posting crap like you did in post 26

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Post 26...by you
You cannot gain the kind of weight you did without increasing your caloric intake. Of course you were causing hypertrophy. That's what happens when you bulk...

Again I do not agree with you on the use of the term "bulk," so quit trying to preach to me.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

You're going back too far. I conceded later that this was a case of semantics and said the following 2 posts later:
You conceded it was a case of semantics...then kept on arguing semantics



My only point in saying that statement you quoted was to show that you had to conciously increase your calories at a steady rate to gain 60 pounds in 4 years without gaining fat.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

That was not your only point
Your driving point was that I gained the weight on a bulk.

And my point is I did not bulk.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

What I said is I consider it a bulk; you don't. End of story.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

It should have been about 50 posts ago but you seem to have a real problem with people who don't jump on your bandwagon.

Originally Posted by buildingup

its because hes small ancd desperately trys to convince himself that his way will get gains when it clearly doesnt!

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

I don't think he is overly concerned with Mass Gains. Not everyone is a bodybuilder trying to be vain.

Cowpimp seems interested in Strength for the most part

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

It should have been about 50 posts ago but you seem to have a real problem with people who don't jump on your bandwagon.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

No, you just ignore it when I concede to something.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I would love to see the day you admit you're wrong, but we both know that isnt possible.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Okay, you're right. I'm wrong. Happy?