Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

That's odd. I thought the back was made up of many, many muscles, thus allowing you to target them. You can target the lower and upper back can't you?

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

You know how you can't target inner chest? Same with back.

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

Well you can't isolate the different parts of the chest because there really aren't many separate muscles to be worked (inner and outer are two different parts of the same muscle). I just thought that the back was much more complex and had many more muscles, thus allowing you to target inner muscles and not outer muscles and vice versa.

Originally Posted by LexusGS

Please explain to me what I'm doing wrong.
Thanks for the help guys.

Originally Posted by soxmuscle

deadlifts instead of squats? why?

Originally Posted by Mudge

I'm not diggin' the squats coupled with my GM work. I either raise my heart rate so high I can't tax my legs, or I rest and put extra strain on my spine. Leg pressing + lunges seemed to be working well for me.

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

You know how you can't target inner chest? Same with back.

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

That's odd. I thought the back was made up of many, many muscles, thus allowing you to target them. You can target the lower and upper back can't you?

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Wrong. We are talking separate muscles here. The "outer back" is primarily comprised of your lats and posterior delts when you move up. The "inner back" consists of rhomboids, various trapezius muscles, and of course the erector spinae.

I suggest giving deadlifts a shot.

Originally Posted by buildingup

i use a claw like grip on deadlifts but my grip fails before my back, what do i do?

Originally Posted by LexusGS

do you know how long it will take for me to start seeing changes in my back after doing deads once a week continually?

Originally Posted by buildingup

yep and that confirms it, thanks both muscle and squaggle

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

If it made your muscles thicker but not deeper, that is shape...

Originally Posted by Lepa

A question on SLDL's, I have heard that elevating your toes an inch or so works the hammies more, gives them a better stretch. Anyone know if it works? I might try it next leg day.

Originally Posted by Lepa

Muscleman its not my first time, SLDL's are part of my leg day. I am just wondering if raising your toes will work the hammies more.

Here is where i read it: http://www.sensiblesoftware.com/arti...Your-Life.html

Originally Posted by MuscleM4n

what i meant to say that it has made my back thicker but not increased its depth

Originally Posted by stupid article

The reason this toe-raising technique is so effective for the stiff-legged deadlift comes straight from biomechanics and anatomy.

The stiff-legged deadlift exercise places the most tension on the hamstrings at the bottom, stretched position. Therefore, in order to maximize tension on the hamstrings, we must maximize the stretch on the hamstrings at that point.

In the standard stiff-legged deadlift, this is normally accomplished by simply bending at the hips. But this is not the greatest anatomical stretch that can be put on the hamstring muscles.

As you may or may not know, the muscles of the calves are tied in with the hamstrings. Therefore, placing a stretch on the calves also places more stretch on the hamstrings. This is what the weight plates accomplish - they raise your toes, putting a stretch on the calves, which then puts a greater stretch on your hamstrings.

By stretching the hamstrings at both the hip joint and the knee joint (from stretching the calves), you literally force your hamstrings to activate strongly during the stiff-legged deadlift movement.