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I.D.,What I have (test powder)


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Posted by: The big guy

I ordered some Powders EQ, Deca, Test, Anadrol, How can I tell which is which if not packages are not marked?


Posted by: Mudge

By knowing their melting points, which gives you clues as to what they look like. Typically one would not order the same quanity of test, and anadrol also.


Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
By knowing their melting points, which gives you clues as to what they look like. Typically one would not order the same quanity of test, and anadrol also.
I see a little problem with that as some of the oversea's comp's have a min order of 50 grams on Test, EQ, and Deca which is a lot if it's for yourself. But As Mudge said I had to do a melting test on mine and then when I finally did. I discovered that I didn't get what I ordered which caused me to lose 3 batches. After I did a melting test I then knew what I had and then everything came out fine.

Tough


Posted by: Mudge

Most of the orals you can order in lesser quanities, like drol.

To the original poster, you dont even specify what kind of test - BIG difference in appearances there. With pictures we could probably get pretty close, but EQ, test enan, and to a lesser extent deca will be molten or soft and gooey at reasonably warm temps.


Posted by: The big guy

Found oversea supplier that will sell from 1gram to whatever, and the test is test base. What are the melting points?


Posted by: gococksDJS

Hopefully your not going to try to esterfy that test yourself...


Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally Posted by grafix-gnc
feel free to add on to this list, PM me withe the info and i will edit the list.

Why is it important to know the melting points of various hormones? Because if you are purchasing powders, you can see if it is the real deal. Granted this isnt the most accurate test, but it isnt that far off.

Thanks superchicken for the info.

Convert Celsius to Farenheit:
1) Determine the temperature in Celsius
2) Using your calculator, multiply the temperature times 1.8
3) Add 32 to the result
4) Your final answer is the temperature in Fahrenheit
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Androstanalone - 5a-ANDROSTAN-17b-OL-3-ONE(SAME AS 5a-Dihydrotestosterone)

melting point= 177-182C

molecular weight= 290.40

rotation= +33 c=1 CHCL3
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Boldenone - 1,4-ANDROSTADIEN-17B-OL-3-ONE

melting point= 167-172C

molecular weight= 286.40

rotation= +22 CHCL3
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Boldenone Undeclynate - 1,4-ANDROSTADIEN-17B-OL-3-ONE-UNDECYLENATE

melting point= Liquid

molecular weight= 452.67

rotation=+38.3° C30 H44 O3
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Clomifene Citrate - 2-(p- (2-chloro-1,2-diphenylvinyl)phenoxy) triethylamine citrate (1:1)

melting point=

molecular weight= 598.09
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Clostebol - 4-ANDROSTEN-4-CHLORO-17b-OL-3-ONE

melting point= 187-188C

molecular weight= 322.89

rotation= +150 CHLF
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Drostanolone - 5a-ANDROSTAN-2a-METHYL-17b-OL-3-ONE
(SAME AS DROMOSTANOLONE)

melting point= 149-153C

molecular weight= 304.36

rotation= +32 MeOH
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FLUOXYMESTERONE - 4-ANDROSTEN-9α-FLUORO-17α-METHYL-11β, 17β-DIOL-3-ONE

melting point= 300°C+

molecular weight= 336.44

rotation= +109° EtOH
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Mesterolone - 5a-ANDROSTAN-1a-METHYL-17b-OL-3-ONE

melting point= 202-206C

molecular weight= 304.36

rotation= =18 CHCL3
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METHANDIONONE - 1,4-ANDROSTADIEN-17a-METHYL-17B-OL-3-ONE
(SAME AS METHYLANDROSTENOLONE)

melting point= 162-164C

molecular weight= 300.42

rotation= +0 CHCL3
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Methenolone - 1,5a-ANDROSTEN-1-METHYL-17b-OL-3-ONE

melting point= 164-165C

molecular weight=

rotation= +58 CHLF
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Methenolone Acetate - 1(5á)-ANDROSTEN-1â-METHYL-17â-OL-3-ONE ACETATE

melting point= 141-143°C

molecular weight= 344.49

rotation= +40.8°
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Methenolone Enanthate - 1(5á)-ANDROSTEN-1â-METHYL-17â-OL-3-ONE ENANTHATE

melting point= 70.5°C

molecular weight= 414.62

rotation=
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Nandrolone - 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE

melting point= 122-125C

molecular weight= 274.38

rotation= +56 C=1 CHCL3
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Nandrolone Acetate - 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ACETATE

melting point= 89-93C

molecular weight= 316.41

rotation= +49 C=1 CHCL3
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Nandrolone Benzoate - 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-BENZOATE

melting point= 170-175C

molecular weight= 378.49

rotation= +104 C=1 CHCL3
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Nandrolone Decanoate - 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-DECANOATE

melting point= 30-35C

molecular weight= 428.63

rotation=
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Nandrolone Phenylpropionate - 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-PHENYLPROPIONATE

melting point= 92-96C

molecular weight= 406.54

rotation= +58 C=1 CHCL3
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Nandrolone Propionate - 4-ESTREN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-PROPIONATE

melting point= 55-60C

molecular weight= 330.45

rotation= +41 C=1 CHCL3
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Oxandrolone

melting point= 226-230°C

molecular weight = 306.44

rotation = -22°
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Oxymethalone - 5a-ANDROSTAN-17a-METHYL-17b-OL-2-
HYDROXYMETHYLENE-3-ONE

melting point= 177-180C

molecular weight= 332.47

rotation= +38 ETOH
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Spironolactone - 4,17a-PREGNEN-21-CARBOXYLIC ACID-17b-OL-3-ONE-7a-THIOL 21-17 GAMMA LACTONE 7-ACETATE (SAME AS ALDACTONE)

melting point= 207C

molecular weight= 416-.59

rotation=
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Stanozolol - 5a-ANDROSTAN-17a-METHYL-17b-OL-3,
2c-PYRAZOLE

melting point= 228-242C

molecular weight= 328.42

rotation= +36 CHCL3
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Tamoxifen Citrate - 2-[4-1,2-Diphenyl-1-Butenyl)

melting point= 143-146C

molecular weight= 563.65
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TESTOSTERONE BASE - 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE

melting point= 154-155C

molecular weight= 288.4

rotation= +102 degrees C=1 CHCL3
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TESTOSTERONE ACETATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ACETATE

melting point=140-144C

molecular weight=330.45

rotation= +59 C=1 ACETONE
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TESTOSTERONE BENZOATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-BENZOATE

melting point=191-196C

molecular weight=392.52

rotation= +155 C=1 CHCL3
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TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-CYCLOPENTYLPROPIONATE
(SAME AS TESTOSTERONE CYCLOPENTYLPROPIONATE)

melting point=98-102C

molecular weight=412.59

rotation= +87 C=1 CHCL3
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TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ENANTHATE
(SAME AS TESTOSTERONE HEPTANOATE)

melting point=32-36C

molecular weight=400.61

rotation= +84 C=1 CHCL3
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TESTOSETERONE DECANOATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-n-DECANOATE

melting point=47-49C

molecular weight=

rotation= +72 DIOXANE
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TESTOSTERONE ISOBUTYRATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ISOBUTYRATE

melting point=124-128C

molecular weight=358.50
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TESTOSTERONE ISOCAPRONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE ISOCAPRONATE

melting point=53-55C

rotation= +86 CHLF
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TESTOSTERONE VALERATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-VALERATE
(SAME AS TESTOSTERONE PENTANOATE)

melting point=106-109C

molecular weight=372.53

rotation= +92 C=1 CHCL3
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TESTOSTERONE PHENYLPROPIONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 3-PHENYLPROPIONATE

melting point=115-116C

rotation= +98 CHLF
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TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE- 4-ANDROSTEN-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-PROPIONATE

melting point=118-122C

molecular weight=344.50

rotation= +86 C=1 DIOXANE
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TESTOSTERONE UNDECANOATE -

melting point=

molecular weight=

rotation=
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Turinabol - 4-ANDROSTEN-4-CHLORO-17b-OL-3-ONE 17-ACETATE

melting point= 225-230C

molecular weight= 364.89

rotation= =118 CHCL3
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Posted by: The big guy

What method is best to use to test melting piont and I am going to make test suspension out of the base. Thanks for the help Mudge!! And I think thank list covers it. LOL.This is the best board around, no attitudes here just a lot of good info.


Posted by: Mudge

From what I remember, EQ will be darker in color than the deca a little. Your white powders are going to be the TNE and anadrol. I still have some anadrol powder and I can describe it if that helps, but I'm guessing TNE may be similar since prop somewhat is as well. Prop is a bit granier (almost like a fine sugar) where the anadrol is very powdery.

The list also seems to imply the EQ should reach liquid state sooner than deca which also sounds correct, the deca does reach molten pretty quickly though. I really like gas ranges but at the moment I have electric, and would have to use a thermometer and a bit of patience along with a glass vial or beaker for the substance. My mass store of molten things like test enanthate are in a 200cc vial and I just heat that enough to draw from there, then I move it to the beaker when I'm ready to mix it all up. I use this method because once you know the volume to weight, its pretty fast doing the work. About 8cc of enanthate is 10 grams of goods, different substances have different weight to volume of course.


Posted by: The big guy

Thanks any way!


Posted by: The big guy

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