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Posted by: SteveDeBeave

Training and nutrition are both important that's for sure. What percentage of each is important to you?

Vote and comments please!

Posted by: Prince

I voted 80% Nutrition 20% Training, although I think it's more like 75% Nutrition and 25% Training.

Posted by: Neil

I think they are equally important. As far as what's important I think you are only as strong as your weakest link.

Posted by: kuso

I`m gonna be anal and say 70% 30%

Posted by: pumpit

i think its 50/50 you have to train good and eat good!!!!

Posted by: Tank316

just my opinion, i think it sorta matters if your bulking or cutting..but i'll go up back up and vote so i wont get picked on

Posted by: 101Tazman

I voted 80 / 20 . My deit is right on time except for one day a week. And I have been maintaining right around 5% bf. For over a year.

Posted by: ZECH

now i lay me down to sleep, i pray to the lord my soul to take,i hope my biceps keep growing, even though i'm 38....

Tank, Now that is funny!! Sounds like me!! Great one!

Posted by: Tank316

thanks dg806, i feel older every day, i think its time start training a little lighter..

Posted by: Triple Threat

I think it's a ratio of 2 to 1, nutrition to training. I picked 60/40, but I think kuso's 70/30 would be a better choice.

Posted by: Robboe

How can it be 80% nutrition?

i can eat like a BBer but if i don;t train i sure as hell aren;t gonna look like one.

However, even with a piss-poor diet i can achieve some form of gains with good training.

I say 70% training, 30% nutrition.

Posted by: ZECH

Originally posted by Tank316
thanks dg806, i feel older every day, i think its time start training a little lighter..

Don't say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BAD!!! I am still trying to go heavier!!

Posted by: Tank316

i'm so bull headed on this, i fight the battle everyday.

some days i wake up and i feel that a got hit by a big truck

Posted by: I Are Baboon

Originally posted by kuso
I`m gonna be anal and say 70% 30%

Yeah, that's what I wanted to vote for. Steve is trying to screw us by not offering that as a choice.

Just because I believe in the 70/30 theory does not mean I participate in the 70/30 theory. I have not been as careful with my diet over the past six weeks, although I have not missed a workout in that time period.

Posted by: SteveDeBeave

Jeeeeeeeeesh! If I would have put a 70~30 choice then you guys would have wined and said you wanted 80~20.

OK, so we all agree that nutrition is important. Now no more beer and pizza for you Baboon!

Posted by: wildlifer_jones

Biased question. A healthy diet is always critical wether you train or not, but if you're a seriuos proponent of iron you can't have one without the other.

Posted by: Prince

the general public does not realize how important diet and nutrition is.

they think that they just need to work-out.....

think of how much time you spend eating compared to how much time you spend working out.

Posted by: Shmoo

Both are important. I picked 60/40 although for myself I would say it`s closer to 70/30.

Posted by: Miss LeDix

Originally posted by Prince
the general public does not realize how important diet and nutrition is.

they think that they just need to work-out.....

think of how much time you spend eating compared to how much time you spend working out.

To what Prince said. It's true that people just don't understand. How many people do you see at they gym day after day, week after week, month after month..working hard but seeing no results? I would love to see thier diet!

Posted by: realdeal

i voted 80% diet and 20%training but i believe its 90% diet and 10 training because it doesnt matter how hard you train if you want to be cut and you train your ass off, but you dont bother dieting you will look like shit. and same goes for if you want to be big you have to get the protein in.

JAY CUTLER said it best on his video "Diet's 90% of it anyway"

Posted by: Michelle

I would say 60% training and 40% nutrition. When I am doing cardio 3 times a week (usually running 2-5 miles) I don't feel guilty about eating ice cream or pizza once in a while, because it won't affect the way I look or feel. I do generally eat a healthy diet though, but I don't count calories or fat grams or anything. I just try to make healthy choices. I also try to think back to what I have eaten at work to see what I will have for dinner. For example, if I was a little low on veggies or protein I will make up for it at dinner, or if I've had very few carbs I may have a bowl of wheeteana or oatmeal.

But if I let up on the cardio schedule, (tends to happen in the winter, when it's too cold to go running) the junk food treats make me feel sluggish and my abs don't look as good.

I am glad warm weather is on the way, it's so much easier to go out for a nice run when the cold air is not burning your lungs.

Posted by: Robboe

Well Michelle it seems we're the only two in this thread who think that way, even if our reasoning is slightly different.

Posted by: Michelle

I suppose it is different for everyone.

I really think it also depends on what kind of shape you were in to begin with.
For example, if someone used to eat fast food a lot and was never into training hard, then as an adult they started getting into fitness, working out and and changed over to healthy eating habits, it may be a little harder for them to maintain their goals because their body was not eating right or getting enough exercise during the formative years, while it was still growing.

Also, some people have more muscle mass due to genetics.

Question: when we are talking about "nutrition" in this poll what does it mean?

1) A strict bb/fitness diet, with no cheating
2) Generally prefer healthy food, but wouldn't deny yourself a scoop of ice cream for dessert a couple of nights a week, or maybe a slice of pizza and a f beer on the weekend without feeling guilty
3) Eat fast food several times a week, drink beer several nights a week, snack on chips, candy, cookies etc.

I think if you are working out regularly, you can eat like example 2 and you will still look and feel good. Obviously if you are training for a show and you want to be at your best you will have to stick with example 1.

I don't think you could eat like example 3 and still look and feel good from just excercise. In fact, I don't think you'd be able to keep up a good workout schedule with this diet, because you'd probably feel sluggish all the time.

If someone says "When I'm working out, I can eat whatever I want," "whatever I want" doesn't mean greasy fatty foods. If someone prefers a healthy diet, then they are eating whatever they want. If you are working out a lot you don't usually WANT to eat those things because they make you nauseous or sluggish.

Also, if we say "training vs. nutrition" it's not just weights. Not doing enough cardio can have a big effect on seeing results.

Just my two cents.

Posted by: SteveDeBeave

Originally posted by Michelle
I suppose it is different for everyone.

Question: when we are talking about "nutrition" in this poll what does it mean?

Also, if we say "training vs. nutrition" it's not just weights. Not doing enough cardio can have a big effect on seeing results.

The poll was not to discuss individual eating habits or nutritional programs that a person is interested in.

It was a question based on what an individual thinks is important in their overall goals. These goals could be for their own health, their looks, to lose weight, or to bring home the trophy.

How much effort in time spent, preparation, thought, energy, etc. to reach the individual goal in a person’s fitness routine. Many have different routines and goals, but in general if you’re on this forum you are pumping iron and that is the common bond we have here. So the poll was to find out the amount of effort people are putting forth in general for their nutrition and training, the term training on this forum I suppose can describe weights, cardio, mountain biking or marathon sex.

Personally I spend about 1 hour a day working out physically and spend way more time in meal prep, shopping, and macro and calorie tracking then I do in the gym. I also think that what my body takes in for fuel is extremely important! So I voted 80% nutrition, 20% training.

Posted by: Dr. Pain

Dudes and Dudette, Studs and Studettes,

A very good friend of mine, Dr. Pain, some of you may have heard of him, says:

"Bodybuilding is 100% TRAINING. 100% NUTRITION, and 100% RECOVERY!"

nothing less.......

FC

Posted by: w8lifter

Originally posted by Fat Cell
Dudes and Dudette, Studs and Studettes,

A very good friend of mine, Dr. Pain, some of you may have heard of him, says:

"Bodybuilding is 100% TRAINING. 100% NUTRITION, and 100% RECOVERY!"

nothing less.......

FC

Who is this Dr. Pain? He sounds awesome....like he knows his shit!

Posted by: Pitboss

It's 68% diet, 29% training and 3% Bass Ale!!!

Posted by: MAX

Originally posted by Pitboss
It's 68% diet, 29% training and 3% Bass Ale!!!

Althoug I voted 60-40.. PB.. set me straight....

62.5% diet, 32.5% training and 5% Ying Ling..

Gotta have my YINGLING....

Posted by: ALBOB

Originally posted by MAX Gotta have my YINGLING....

You drink Ironcity too, don't you?

100% Training! Diet doesn't mean SQUAT. I can eat 10,000 colories a day but as long as I burn 10,001 I'm gonna lose weight. If I want to gain I simply reverse the numbers. That's why I say Krispy Kremes were the greatest weight gainer ever invented. Pre-packaged for convenient carry to work. Easily digested. Taste great. What more could you ask for?

Posted by: Tank316

i had a training partner tell me about the same thing..its true...

Posted by: Tooolguy

The recipe for success

Posted by: gopro

I voted 20 % nutrition and 80 % training. Now of course this question is a little more complex than simple percentages depending on many factors. However, you can have the best diet in the world, but if you don't lift, you will not have any significant muscle(unless you are a genetic freak). On the other hand, I know plenty of guys that eat all kinds of crap, but lift hard, and have rather impressive physiques.

Posted by: Robboe

Aye.

Posted by: gopro

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Aye.

And that means???????

Posted by: Robboe

That means we answered the same response.

(Take note that i answered it first tho

)

Posted by: gopro

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
That means we answered the same response.

(Take note that i answered it first tho

)

Really...didn't see your post! Well, at least we see eye to eye on something...I'm proud of you Chicken...stick with me and you'll learn a thing or two

Posted by: Robboe

I wanna see your contest prep article dammit

Posted by: w8lifter

OMG...I'm so proud of you two! Finally agreeing on something! And even for disagreeing in a very humourous way!

Posted by: Robboe

Hey don't blame me, he's the big kid...

Posted by: gopro

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Hey don't blame me, he's the big kid...

I may be BIG, but I'm not a kid...besides I kinda like you in a mentor/student kind of way...just like any good student, you ask questions, and thats a good thing!

Posted by: Robboe

I know you are, but what am i?

Posted by: gopro

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
I know you are, but what am i?

My Daddy can beat up your daddy....

Posted by: Robboe

fat head.

Posted by: gopro

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
fat head.

Doofis.

Posted by: Robboe

Party, Bonus.

Posted by: gopro

Shhhhwinggg.

Posted by: Tank316

Originally posted by Tank316
i had a training partner tell me about the same thing..its true...

and i asked my old training partner to join IM. so he'll be here soon, i hope..but he always told me that if your going to do a bb show, you live eat breath and crap bbing.100% in both area's.dieting and training.if you cheat in one area and slack off in another, then why are you doing it??total foucus.100%..IMHO

Posted by: Robboe

I like the way you work it, No diggity - I'm 'bout to bag it up...

Posted by: Nick6

I wish I knew what was best.
Before I started lifting staying lean was almost effortless. Since then my appetite is twice what it was and although I've gained a lot of muscle weight I have a bit of the flab going too.

Now that the nice weather is here again I can ride my bike more, that's an easy way to drop the fat for me.

The poll? I don't know.

Posted by: katt

Nutrition IMO is HUGE! I have always, always been at the gym busting my butt,,, but until I got the nutrition down, it was pretty much wasted time. I've had more gains in the last six months than I've had in the last 6 years!

To me, it was a total pain at first, keeping track - but I will continue to do it from now on!

Posted by: John Rambo

Originally Posted by gopro

I voted 20 % nutrition and 80 % training. Now of course this question is a little more complex than simple percentages depending on many factors. However, you can have the best diet in the world, but if you don't lift, you will not have any significant muscle(unless you are a genetic freak). On the other hand, I know plenty of guys that eat all kinds of crap, but lift hard, and have rather impressive physiques.

I agree with you.

Posted by: The13ig13adWolf

i vote 80% nutrition / 20% training.

Posted by: Seanp156

60% nutrition, 40% training. I would've voted 70/30, but it's not an option

Posted by: CowPimp

I said 60/40 Diet/Training, even though I think quantifying this relationship with numbers is a bit simplistic. Either one can be your limiting factor, however, I think that far more people are limited by their diet as opposed to their training. More people pay attention to their training routines than their diets, even though many of those routines still suck balls.

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