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Whey Protein: Do I need Lglutamine supps?

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Posted by: W8Lady

Im on a site about to purchase whey power (Designer Whey)....Do I still need a glutamine supplement or is this enough?



Posted by: PreMier

Glutamine is garbage, do not waste your money.



Posted by: W8Lady

Ok....Here is what I wanna purchase....Protein -Designer Whey (Choc) Meal Replacement/Post Work Out- Muscle Milk, Pre Workout[I]- Cytomax Orange



Posted by: LAM

I wouldn't worry about adding L-Glutamine until you really need it when dieting down when the cals are very low. that's when it is most effective.



Posted by: W8Lady

Thx....still workin on a diet thou....how about the other supplements I posted??



Posted by: LAM

Designer Whey is a good choice. they make some tasty protein supplements



Posted by: Tha Don

i use l-glutamine, bulking or cutting, its a very useful amino acid, scientifically proven to help with recovery, i'd recommend 20g a day (4x 5mg doses througout) maybe slightly more when on a calorie restricted diet



Posted by: PreMier

Quote:
Originally Posted by young d
i use l-glutamine, bulking or cutting, its a very useful amino acid, scientifically proven to help with recovery, i'd recommend 20g a day (4x 5mg doses througout) maybe slightly more when on a calorie restricted diet
Glutamine has very poor clinical studies relating to improvement of athletic performance. Same with recovery, I could post atleast 20 studies showing there were no positive benefit from it.

The only way I have seen it proven to aid in recovery was for severe burn victims, and marathon runners. Not to mention it was taken intraveniously. With that said, I suppose it could be of value on an extreme cut(read competition bodybuilder) along with some BCAA's. But for people who arent extreme its a serious waste IMO.



Posted by: LAM

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreMier
Glutamine has very poor clinical studies relating to improvement of athletic performance. Same with recovery, I could post atleast 20 studies showing there were no positive benefit from it.
to date i'm pretty sure creatine is the only bb supplement that has been proven to enhance athletic performance.

in terms of recovery IMO it's impossible to say if whether or not it is effective or not, to subjective

most people never get down to low enough body fat levels to reep the true benefits of L-glutamine supplementation



Posted by: Tha Don

but don't you advocate using glutamine LAM? i'm pretty sure i remember you recommending running it in 10g doses whilst cutting... i could be mistaken though!



Posted by: BulkMeUp

Another opnion on this:
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Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh
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Unless you are doing a completely stupid diet (or you are doing rediculous amounts of training) then, seeing you will be taking in a higher than average level of animal proteins it is likely you will be getting adequate glutamine for your needs (Dairy, eggs, seafood and meats are all high in glutamine... Seeds like sunflower seeds and nuts like almonds and peanuts are also not too bad in terms of glutamine).


Also - in terms of the 'supplement', most glutamine taken orally will be taken up in the lining of your intestines (intestinal mucosa) and converted to other things before it even reaches your blood. So in order to get any substantial levels into your body you need to take pretty large doses... [the effect is less so if you specifically take good doses of pure l-glutamine (>10g per serve), but up to 75% can still be removed.... (on a side note - this is one of the reasons why glutamine may be helpful for those with irritable bowel or inflammatory bowel issues...)].

Also - You turn over glutamine in your blood REALLY rapidly so if you want high levels in your body for any period of time then you have to take really high doses every few hours... Completely un-ecomomical.

Some people may disagree with me on this - but it is just my opinion... So the only time I suggest people really think about taking it is if they are on an extremely hypocalorific diet, if they are under immense stress in terms of your immunity or if you are doing seriously long/hard training....
And not to mention this stuff is expensive.



Posted by: LAM

it's a good supplment just not very cost effective for most people.

I use it off and on but really only when i'm really low on cals then i'll go up to 40-50 grams a day.



Posted by: W8Lady

Thanks for the info....from what I can gather, my cals are not going to be very low to begin with , 2700 for now. The protein powder has glutamine in it so I am assuming that at this point this is all I need to get started. Im not a bodybuilder, at least not at this point, my main goal is to drop the weight correctly and use the weights/bowflex to tone up as I go. Once I get to my goal and I want to go further, perhaps thats when I should be looking for glutamine supplements.......



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