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Posted by: Devileyezz

Hi,

So, I'm 5'10.5 and I weight 140 something.

I've been in the gym for about 3-4 months now. And my diet is of concern.
My work is rigorous, and I don't have time to make food for myself.

So, I usually have 2-3 bananas in the morning, (very rarely a bowl of cornflakes, or often a large chocolate milk from the variety store)
For lunch, it's usually a sandwich (Quiznos, McD, or some chinese food.. I need the carbs/high cal since I'm skinny)

And then, it's straight to gym after work, and maybe after work out I get one of those power bars and/or chocolate milk large, and then come home and make myself a Michelina's and maybe make myself an IsoFLEX shake.

Is there any additions/modifications I need to do?

Thanks a ton for your help.

PS: My main focus is chest, biceps and abs.

Posted by: TJ Cline

1. 5-6 meals a day

2. Little or no fast food

3. 1-1.25 grams of protein for each pound you weigh

4. look through the diet area for some good eating tips and meals

5. post your exact workouts.

Posted by: Devileyezz

5-6 meals?! :-o

And to post my exact routine. I don't know what are the names of those exercises.
If I could somehow get pictures of those machines, I'll put 'em up.

*finds way to the diet area*

Posted by: Devileyezz

Somehow, I don't see a whole lot information on skinny guys' diets. Everyone seems to be talking about less carbs/less cal.

Posted by: Devileyezz

And, plus.. 5-6 meals means.. it can be 5-6 small things right? Like maybe bananas, a sandwich, lunch, then yoghurt, some milk? with intervals?

Posted by: TheSaint

No, not really. A meal is protein and carbs (along with fat, sodium, etc.) So a banana or yogurt wouldnt really cut it. Throw in some cottage cheese with that yogurt and you have your self a meal. But if you are almost 5' 11'' and weigh 140 you need way, way, way more food than you are eating. I would feel like passing out if I ate as little as you do. But you do need to post your workouts and also what your goals are, as there are different eating guidelines depend on what you wish to achieve.

Posted by: LAM

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Originally Posted by Devileyezz

And my diet is of concern.
My work is rigorous, and I don't have time to make food for myself.

why do you not have the time to cook for yourself ?

Posted by: Seanp156

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Originally Posted by LAM

why do you not have the time to cook for yourself ?

Exactly... Do you really not have the time, or you just don't want to? It's all about priorities. For example.... if you know you're going to be eating 3-4 pieces of meat per day, just set aside a time to cook a dozen or so, then store them until you're ready to eat them... You don't have to cook each and every meal, just plan things out.

Posted by: Devileyezz

Thanks guys.
I can't cook, because I work 10am-8pm, and if I go to the gym, I get home around 11 or 11.30. And it's time to sleep.

But yes, part of it is I don't want to cook either. Hmm, and I guess I won't go too far if I don't. I guess I will have to start doing it.

Since I don't even know how to cook, are there ways I can find out here how to cook some stuff?

TheSaint, I'll surely post up my routine.. I'll just write them down in the gym today when I'm doing it.

Posted by: overthepond

There are tons of recipes in the recipe forum at the top of the diet page. My best advice is to get a Foreman grill. Super easy and a huge time saver. Why can't you go to the gym in the morning? You don't work until 10.

Posted by: juggernaut2005

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Originally Posted by Devileyezz

Hi,

So, I'm 5'10.5 and I weight 140 something.

I've been in the gym for about 3-4 months now. And my diet is of concern.
My work is rigorous, and I don't have time to make food for myself.

So, I usually have 2-3 bananas in the morning, (very rarely a bowl of cornflakes, or often a large chocolate milk from the variety store)
For lunch, it's usually a sandwich (Quiznos, McD, or some chinese food.. I need the carbs/high cal since I'm skinny)

And then, it's straight to gym after work, and maybe after work out I get one of those power bars and/or chocolate milk large, and then come home and make myself a Michelina's and maybe make myself an IsoFLEX shake.

Is there any additions/modifications I need to do?

Thanks a ton for your help.

PS: My main focus is chest, biceps and abs.

get a side job at mcdonalds and EAT.. honestly,(regardless of what anyone will tell you) unless you plan on using roids, don't expect to put on massive muscle weight.. EAT like you are a somalian kid that aint seen food in 5years.. lift heavy and eat... eat WHATEVER you want (well no sugar and little sat fat). CHOW like a cow in a 40000x40000 grass field.. CHOW like you are a SUMO wrestler.. EAT anything and everything you can find.. Hell eat your puppy if you have any.

you are gonna hear "eat 1lbs of protein/LBM lbs" yadda yadda!! Just concentrate on calories in.. ofcourse don't neglect chicken titties and veggies.. The combination of heavy (proper form too) lifting and eating will help you build some muscles on top of the fat you'll gain from all that eating.. After youve reached a reasonavble weight, then start cutting and eating like the pros that use roids..

Posted by: Psch91

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Originally Posted by juggernaut2005

you are gonna hear "eat 1lbs of protein/LBM lbs" yadda yadda!! .

Wow. I hope he doesnt hear that. That would be 140 lbs of protein per day! That could get really expensive, and youd probably be burping up powder...

Posted by: Devileyezz

juggernaut's advice seems so real.

Because everyone is a power lifter who follows a strict routine, and a strict food diet. But not many understand that I'm skinny already, and I need to eat a lot more. More cal/carbs.

But then again, yes I'm gonna start cooking. I can't help it.. or else I'm gonna spend a lot on food. So, I'd rather cook.

overthepond: Surely there are lot of recipes around, but again that's the use of forums right? When people like me with my own weight, my different time regime, etc.. come here, they usually come for answers from experts who will be able to suggest something. Not say "Go read that book".

What's foreman grill? I did some Google on it. And it looks like it's like any other grill. I couldn't go further in seeing if there are some in Toronto.

Posted by: myCATpowerlifts

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Originally Posted by Devileyezz

juggernaut's advice seems so real.

Because everyone is a power lifter who follows a strict routine, and a strict food diet. But not many understand that I'm skinny already, and I need to eat a lot more. More cal/carbs.

But then again, yes I'm gonna start cooking. I can't help it.. or else I'm gonna spend a lot on food. So, I'd rather cook.

overthepond: Surely there are lot of recipes around, but again that's the use of forums right? When people like me with my own weight, my different time regime, etc.. come here, they usually come for answers from experts who will be able to suggest something. Not say "Go read that book".

What's foreman grill? I did some Google on it. And it looks like it's like any other grill. I couldn't go further in seeing if there are some in Toronto.

Dude, You're not alone.
Many people on the forum are skinny and looking to gain weight, vs. losing it.

But just because you want to gain weight, doesn't mean you should start gorging on fast food. That may give you cals but it will also give you high blood pressure, and bad health!

Posted by: Dipsh!t

You need a lot of good protein, good carbs (like pasta, rice),
have a full breakfast consist of protein shake, cereal/toast, egg. Just make sure you have enough energy to kick start your day, and then try to keep yourself full throughout the day.

Posted by: Devileyezz

That sounds real good.

Posted by: Devileyezz

Dipsh!t, is there a way you can give me a food routine? I bought myself some chicken. And some pasta. But that's it.

I didn't know what all to buy and keep. Because I don't know how I'm gonna stuff up 4-5 times a day.

If someone is willing to help me out by telling me what exactly I should be eating for breakfast (I've thought of a shake/cereal/a protein bar by a cereal company (Vector), and chocolate milk, and 2-3 bananas in the next 2 hrs)

I work 10am-8pm. So, the breakfast is probably going to happen around 8-9am. Then bananas in the middle till 12noon. Should I eat something then?

8am - breakfast
12pm - something
3.30pm - lunch (can't eat a lot then, because it's only a 30 min break)
6pm - something

And then dinner when someone thinks is a right time, because I can't pick a right dinner time. I work out usually after getting off work at 8pm, around 8.30 or so till 10 or 10.30pm. And then I get home and eat something before I sleep.

Is there something I can eat between 6pm and dinner?

If I can, let's fire it up! My main aims are to get bigger (not really big) in the chest area, biceps, and surely abs [I wanna have an 8pack, if I can amd if its doable. I have lower back pains, that are a little hinderance to my abs workout] and then, my delts and triceps. All this in the next 6-8 months.

Ofcourse, I'll pay some attention to the legs, but that's not part of the time limit, lol.

If someone can help me out, I'd really appreciate it!

Posted by: APG

Ok the first thing that you need to realise is that a good diet is essential to achieving your goals. If you would out while not 'feeding the machine' with the right fuel your workouts will not produce the results you want.

It is hard trying to balance working/social life with eating and even training but it’s all about priorities. People moan they have not got enough time to prepare meals yet can watch TV etc for a few hours per night.

My diet is far from perfect I never eat enough vegetables but spending time at the weekend preparing meals in advance then freezing is a good way to go.

I always weigh my food i.e. pasta, chicken etc so I can work out how much protein and carbs I am getting then you can see if you are actually getting the correct amount of protein, carbs, fat etc.

My meals for the days are:

(1) Bowl of porridge (oats and skimmed) milk + protein shake
(2) Bowl of soup with tin of tuna
(3) Wholemeal pasta and chicken
(4) Meal replacement
(5) Chicken and Jacket/sweet potato broccoli
(7) Casein protein shake before bed or chicken and cottage cheese

Normally my protein intake is between 250-350g don’t really count any thing else. But as I said my diet is far from perfect. Hope this helps

Posted by: Devileyezz

It certainly helps, AMG! Thanks a million tons! If you don't mind, could you also tell me what times you take all these meals so I can get an idea for myself as well?

I think the Meal Replacement is a great idea, which one do you take?

Posted by: APG

My meals for the days are:

(1) Bowl of porridge (oats and skimmed) milk + protein shake 8 am
(2) Bowl of soup with tin of tuna 9pm
(3) Wholemeal pasta and chicken 1pm
(4) Meal replacement 10am
(5) Chicken and Jacket/sweet potato broccoli 6-7pm
(7) Casein protein shake before bed or chicken and cottage cheese 11 (bed time)

In reality though my eact timing are never fixed since it depends how busy i am at work! So when you are off at the weekend of utmost impotant to make sure you diet is as perfect as can be. As for meal replacements I am currently taking one from Holland and Barret (Health store in the UK) which a half price you get 20 sachets for £17.50. Each sachet gives 42.7g protien, 26g carbs (only 1.4g of sugar) and l1 of fat plus gultamine and vanadyl sulphate. I also take reflex protien powder. Best to do a search to see what other members use. Ensure the one you choose is drinkable and has a low amount of sugars in it! Hope this helps casein protien source cottage cheese etc is slow digesting so is ideal before you go to sleep, always try to get some veg in each meal ideally.

Posted by: leg_press

Devileyezz dude! Do you not have a day off or anything? I work really crap shifts so I pound down a shake/ weight gainer onces in a while. I'mn 5 ft 10 and weight around 130 lbs.... I think........ I get an average of 2 days off a week when I go to the grocery store/ market with my mum and buy loads of chicken breasts, cans of tuna, beef steaks, eggs, bacon, potatoes veggies both fresh and tinned and loads of fruit. then I cook the chicken/ steak in the early/ latre afternoon, put three chicken breasts in a freezer bag, and bag and steak separately, then just cook some potatoes or rice and some veggies the night before ( or if I am working evening get my mum to cook some more with the dinner that night when I am working), and then bingo! healthy food, all you have to do is heat it up, or if you can't just sit down with a contains knife and fork and chow down.

Thought to be honest if I am in a panic rush then I do pop into Mc Donalds/ KFC and get a little something.

and dude unless you train your whole body then you won't grow. My chest was lagging then I went hard on both chest and shoulders and it helped.

Posted by: APG

very true ts all about preparation and time management! It is hard to get meals in and train but if it was easy every one would have a body like Arnold...

Posted by: Devileyezz

Well said APG.
I think I'm gonna take a lesson from you guys, and blend my own shake, lol.

The cooking still has to kick in, I just bought 2 packs of chicken breasts. One marinated and one not. I think next weekend should do it.

Hmm, leg_press, dude.. it's not easy to cook the night before. Because I need to sleep inorder to wake up early next morning, lol.

But keep it coming guys, thanks so much!

Posted by: Emma-Leigh

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Originally Posted by Devileyezz

Hmm, leg_press, dude.. it's not easy to cook the night before. Because I need to sleep inorder to wake up early next morning, lol.

Cook on the weekend - take one or two hours and cook up some home-made protein bars, some chicken breasts, some rice or legumes etc etc and then just portion it off and store it in the fridge or freezer. Then each day you can just grap a portion, add some broccoli and some nuts, and you have an instant meal. It is not a hassle at all.

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