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What cycle should be used for Dianabol

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Posted by: radradioman

should you use a 100 tab cycle or a 200 tab cycle? Whats best? And how should it be cycled for best bulking results? Once you get done with a cycle how long do those gains stay with you? Is 300 bucks a good price for 200 tabs?



Posted by: TJ Cline

A D-blo cycle only is a no no



Posted by: kraziplaya

i know a guy taht did dbol only and loved it when he was on....but afterwards he HATED it....would never recommend it...



Posted by: LAM

Quote Originally Posted by radradioman
should you use a 100 tab cycle or a 200 tab cycle? Whats best? And how should it be cycled for best bulking results? Once you get done with a cycle how long do those gains stay with you? Is 300 bucks a good price for 200 tabs?
dbol only cycles are crap. you blow up like a ballon and deflate just as fast when you come off. if you are a newbie (which you have to be to even think about using a dbol only cycle) you can make the same gains with out it. use a 40/40/20 and eat around 4k cals



Posted by: Stu

Quote Originally Posted by kraziplaya
i know a guy taht did dbol only and loved it when he was on....but afterwards he HATED it....would never recommend it...
i did it , its fine if you know what to expect from it. I knew a lot of the weight i would put on would be from water, but the boast it gives to your training and recovery is well worth it.

I dont really see why there is such a stigma attached to dbol only cycles, obvioulsy it not gonna compare to a 12 week cycle of test, but as long as you understand that then im not so sure what the problem is.

So whos gonna be the first to jump all over this post



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote Originally Posted by LAM
dbol only cycles are crap. you blow up like a ballon and deflate just as fast when you come off. if you are a newbie (which you have to be to even think about using a dbol only cycle) you can make the same gains with out it. use a 40/40/20 and eat around 4k cals
I agree totally and if you insist on doing gear, make it Test only. Test should always be your base steroid when doing gear. If you want to do D-Bol, make sure you do test with it.


Tough



Posted by: radradioman

Thanks for the info! I was also wondering how much D-bol is sold for? You say I should stack with Test or do Test only. Where do i get Test? I live in da states, unfortunately.



Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote Originally Posted by Stu
i did it , its fine if you know what to expect from it. I knew a lot of the weight i would put on would be from water, but the boast it gives to your training and recovery is well worth it.

I dont really see why there is such a stigma attached to dbol only cycles, obvioulsy it not gonna compare to a 12 week cycle of test, but as long as you understand that then im not so sure what the problem is.

So whos gonna be the first to jump all over this post
Pussy



Posted by: radradioman

Quote Originally Posted by LAM
dbol only cycles are crap. you blow up like a ballon and deflate just as fast when you come off. if you are a newbie (which you have to be to even think about using a dbol only cycle) you can make the same gains with out it. use a 40/40/20 and eat around 4k cals
What do you mean 40/40/20? Whats a good way to increase my daily appetite then?



Posted by: LAM

40% protein/40% carbs/20% fats

increasing the intensity of your training should help to stimulate your appetite. along with sticking to regular meal times every 3 hours. if you have trouble eating a lot a 33/33/33 may be easier due to the higher ratio of fat



Posted by: Tha Don

Quote Originally Posted by Stu
i did it , its fine if you know what to expect from it. I knew a lot of the weight i would put on would be from water, but the boast it gives to your training and recovery is well worth it.

I dont really see why there is such a stigma attached to dbol only cycles, obvioulsy it not gonna compare to a 12 week cycle of test, but as long as you understand that then im not so sure what the problem is.

So whos gonna be the first to jump all over this post
i totally agree stu, dbol is a great mass steroid, so what if you hold about 10lbs of water on it, just have to factor that into the equation, if you gain 10lbs from dbol and lose it all post cycle then you have done something seriously wrong



Posted by: lnvanry

Quote Originally Posted by radradioman
Thanks for the info! I was also wondering how much D-bol is sold for? You say I should stack with Test or do Test only. Where do i get Test? I live in da states, unfortunately.
dbol shouldn't be anymore than $1 per 10mg tab...at least that is what it is where I am (chicago area)

Take the test...if you have never run a cycle take test enanthate. It is the least amount of injections compared to other types. If your supplier gets dbol than he should get test. They're both extremely common



Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote Originally Posted by radradioman
should you use a 100 tab cycle or a 200 tab cycle? Whats best? And how should it be cycled for best bulking results? Once you get done with a cycle how long do those gains stay with you? Is 300 bucks a good price for 200 tabs?
Reasons to do a Oral steroid cycle only.
1. You are scared of nedels
2. You are scared of nedles
3. same as 1 and 2

Reasons to do a test only cycle.

1. Its safer than any oral steroid ( esp. D-bol, Anadrol and Stennox)
2. You will get better gains than you will from an oral only cycle
3. You will hold more of your gains then you will from an oral only cycle



Posted by: gococksDJS

Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Reasons to do a Oral steroid cycle only.
1. You are scared of nedels
2. You are scared of nedles
3. same as 1 and 2
4. You don't know how to spell needle.



Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote Originally Posted by gococksDJS
4. You don't know how to spell needle.
Just keep kicking me



Posted by: luke69duke69

dbol only cycles are fine if you're gonna run like 4 week blitz... You'll gain about 5-8lbs net, and because it's a quick cycle, you're body will be able to adapt. the problem is most idiots try to run a 5- 8 week dbol only cycle.... dbol only cycles are fine if people realize that they can't stay on it like an injectable...and actually expect to keep more than 5-8lbs...that and their livers will be beat like a piece of leather....



Posted by: LAM

dbol cycles are OK for a trainer who is well below their genetic potential. once you get some real size going they don't do squat unless you use some kind of rediculous dosage



Posted by: Mags

My mate did Dbol for 12 weeks, got huge but in the same amount if time, shrunk back to where he was. Looked good when on it, lifts increased so did his size considerably, but at the end it was just pointless. I always thought Dbol were best suited to kickstarting cycles for 4-6 weeks etc when stacked with other goodies.



Posted by: Stu

Quote Originally Posted by lnvanry
dbol shouldn't be anymore than $1 per 10mg tab...at least that is what it is where I am (chicago area)
you shouldnt really pay anymore than $20 for 100



Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote Originally Posted by Stu
you shouldnt really pay anymore than $20 for 100
Yes if you go and buy them in Mexico



Posted by: Stu

Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Yes if you go and buy them in Mexico
or the uk



Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote Originally Posted by Stu
or the uk
Thats it Im getting out of America



Posted by: Stu

we dont want you here



Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote Originally Posted by Stu
we dont want you here
Don't worry....the UK is the last place I would move to



Posted by: Stu

yeah go to france, you'd get on with those lot



Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote Originally Posted by Stu
yeah go to france, you'd get on with those lot
I did read that women in the UK were one cup size bigger on average then American women.....if thats true I might reconsider.



Posted by: Stu





Posted by: Skate67

Quote Originally Posted by LAM
dbol only cycles are crap. you blow up like a ballon and deflate just as fast when you come off. if you are a newbie (which you have to be to even think about using a dbol only cycle) you can make the same gains with out it. use a 40/40/20 and eat around 4k cals
I know this is off topic but, whats your opinion on isocaloric versus the 40/40/20 for bulking?

Edit : um not that this thread is still on topic



Posted by: LAM

Quote Originally Posted by ST240
I know this is off topic but, whats your opinion on isocaloric versus the 40/40/20 for bulking?

Edit : um not that this thread is still on topic
if you are already lean I think that it's easier to clean bulk going isocaloric or for those who have a small appetite. if you like to eat and can eat a lot and still keep it clean then the 40/40/20 may be better for you



Posted by: Skate67

Quote Originally Posted by LAM
if you are already lean I think that it's easier to clean bulk going isocaloric or for those who have a small appetite. if you like to eat and can eat a lot and still keep it clean then the 40/40/20 may be better for you
neither one "builds muscle better" than the other though correct? My new clean bulk diet is currently at 37/41/22 protein/carbs/fat respectively. I find it very hard to add fats to my diet without "choking" them down . So i think ill just leave it at that... i think i should balance the protein/carbs though.



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote Originally Posted by Mags
My mate did Dbol for 12 weeks, got huge but in the same amount if time, shrunk back to where he was. Looked good when on it, lifts increased so did his size considerably, but at the end it was just pointless. I always thought Dbol were best suited to kickstarting cycles for 4-6 weeks etc when stacked with other goodies.
Are you guys a bunch of dumb fucks or what. You guys better hope that liver transplants are as commonm as teeth pulling in the next 10 years cause your going to need one.
I'll clue you in on something. Dying from liver disease is one of the more painfull death. Probably second only to emphazema.

Tough



Posted by: Stu

12 weeks of dbol is nothing, one of the guys at our gym did 50mg ED for 11months, guys in the 70s used to go up to 100mg per day, yes are some orals extremely toxic but alot of the time the toxicity is way over exergerated.



Posted by: luke69duke69

Well I for one had enough years of hard drinking in my past to decide to keep it to the 4-6 week phase.



Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote Originally Posted by Stu
12 weeks of dbol is nothing, one of the guys at our gym did 50mg ED for 11months, guys in the 70s used to go up to 100mg per day, yes are some orals extremely toxic but alot of the time the toxicity is way over exergerated.
He sounds like a true idiot



Posted by: Stu

Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
He sounds like a true idiot
yes he is an idiot, but he is a monster idiot so im not about to tell him what he can and cant do



Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote Originally Posted by Stu
yes he is an idiot, but he is a monster idiot so im not about to tell him what he can and cant do
Just wait until he is dying of liver failure...then tell him



Posted by: Skate67

Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Just wait until he is dying of liver failure...then tell him




Posted by: Devlin

Quote Originally Posted by Tough Old Man
Are you guys a bunch of dumb fucks or what. You guys better hope that liver transplants are as commonm as teeth pulling in the next 10 years cause your going to need one.
I'll clue you in on something. Dying from liver disease is one of the more painfull death. Probably second only to emphazema.

Tough
Usual cause of death for liver failure is bleeding to death internally. The liver in addition to cleaning the blood of toxins and metabolizing drugs is responsible for producing clotting factors. The liver is the only place clotting factors are produced in the body, not counting platelets which are made in the bone marrow.



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