Originally Posted by aceshigh james toney strolling through his garden

Originally Posted by min0 lee toney......are you for real??? This is the worst heavy weight class ever, and it's been bad for a while. $10.00 george Foreman can KO in 3 rounds.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules A pic of James in his favorite sombrero......before he beat the crap out of John Ruiz.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules It is a bad division right now.....but not as bad as it was back in the late 80's when Tyson was the king.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules James announced on Fox S. N. Last Friday ( 10/21) That he will be fighting this December....the opponent to be announced at a later time.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules James Toney before he accepted his Nobel Prize for astro physics

Originally Posted by aceshigh hahahahahahahahahahah thats one talented man??? or gorilla

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry James Toney taking a shit with a used tampon in his mouth...

Originally Posted by aceshigh now whats this all got to do with the great james (lights out ) toney??????????????????

Originally Posted by aceshigh my toney who art in heaven hollowed be thy name thy madison sqaure garden u come u will win on earth as u did in vegas give us this day our daily steroids and forgive us our abuse of this drug as we forgive other peoples abuse of it and lead us not into retirement but delivery us from klitchko to the father the son and the holy toney amen

Originally Posted by Mr_Snafu You noted the next Toney fight in December hasn't announced an opponent to James Toney. Is there any inclination who this might be?

Originally Posted by aceshigh if james toney could read and use a computer i bet he would have a good laugh at this thread

Originally Posted by ForemanRules James at Harvard teaching English Literature Classes.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry That's pretty cool how they disguised his Harvard lecturne to look like he was at the Mandalay Bay Resort in lovely Las Vegas.

Originally Posted by aceshigh ruiz vs the neandothol,,,,,,,,,,should be interesting

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Originally Posted by ForemanRules This is James next victome The fight is scheduled for 12-01-2005 Rob Calloway Sex Male Nationality US American Alias All-American Prizefighter Global ID US-MO-015691 Federal ID MO036380 Hometown St. Joseph, MO, USA Birthplace Hartford, KY, USA Rated at Heavyweight World Rank 71 / 1039 Date of Birth 1969-07-18 Age 36 Reach 78” Stance Orthodox Height 6' 3 Trainer Jason Redmond Manager Self W 56 (43 ko's) | L 5 | D 1 | Total 66

Originally Posted by aceshigh i would put my life savings that a bum will win that fight

Originally Posted by Mr_Snafu I don't mean to interrupt this thread FR, but I just read an article about the lawsuit again James Toney for steroids. Any comments? I have no opinion. But! I do want to see him fight, thanks to you.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules James Toney responds to John Ruiz' steriod release 25.10.05 - By James Toney: "I've kept my mouth shut as it relates to responding to the continual and annoying accusations, grandstanding and somewhat disingenuous comments made by either John Ruiz or one of his mouthpieces. However, enough is enough. Most real fighters do their talking with their fists and not their mouths...remember I said real fighters. Ruiz has done nothing but cry since being handed his WBA belt back. If he was a real man, a real fighter, he would have tried to get me back into the ring to show everyone that James Toney could not have kicked his ass if my test didn't show up positive. But he knows what I stated as the cause of my positive test was the TRUTH....prescribed medication used to reduce inflammation in my recent bicep/triceps surgery. If this wasn't the case, and he actually believed that I was using performance enhancing drugs to beat him, I can only think he would want this overblown middleweight, with the world watching his next drug test, to get back into the ring with him immediately so he could manhandle me as he said he could have done without the positive test.. Let it be said now, John Ruiz would rather go out of the country to fight, then to ever think of having to be in a ring with me again. He knows I beat him with one arm (my good one); the other arm was still recuperating from the 2004 career threatening surgery. I'm tired of hearing his continual babble and grandstanding. The New York State Athletic Commission was given the reason why my test was positive. I believe they understood the difference of medications used for recovery purposes and those intended to enhance your performance. You didn't need to be a rocket scientist to see I was not the poster boy for steroid use. Unfortunately, for the Commission and the WBA, their rules do not have the ability to separate the circumstances, no matter how valid they may have been. The analogy is somewhat similar to a speeding driver who is pulled over by a policemen for going 80 mph in a 55 mph zone, but approaching the vehicle the policemen realizes the driver's wife is delivering a baby in the back seat. Now the simple act of speeding is illegal, however in this case, despite the rules and regulations of the appropriate State, the policeman now will make a determination in either giving a speeding ticket to the driver or to give him an 80 mph police escort to the hospital. The Commission didn't have the luxury in my case to make a similar determination based upon circumstances; hence the suspension. These are the changes needed within the Commission and the WBA and anyone else the Ruiz team so designates as a future target of inadequacy. However, like any other court of law, or system that takes into account the "possibility" of extenuating circumstances, which was the only reason I didn't fight the suspension since the rules didn't address taking prescribed medication solely for rehabilitation of my surgically repaired arm, the rules governing boxing should mirror the above referenced legal system. The Ruiz camp has taken the position of grandstanding in an area where deflection can only last so long---or at least until his next grabfest known as one of his fights. Ruiz states, "Other sports have addressed steroid problems..." in his latest statement. Is he kidding? One of the top players in baseball received a paltry 10-day suspension for his use of steroids. Give me a break John, and go back to being the "Quiteman." Get off your high horse and fight like a man. Stop talking and whining about getting your butt kicked. I was fat, out of shape and fighting with one arm and kicked your ass---face up to it; Schwarzenegger I wasn't. For my final and last comment on this subject, I say to the Commissions and the organizations that you've done a great job of protecting and when need be, penalizing the fighters. Keep it up. Light's Out. James Toney

27.01.06 - By Craig Parrish: It has happened time and time again in Boxing. A great Fighter, with years of superb performances under his belt, takes a long layoff between fights. He is getting up in years, has slowed a bit, but still comes out and dominates opponents through desire, skill, and experience. No, he’s not the fighter that he once was, but he is still competitive. After the layoff, a fight is set. The Fighter, realizing that he is out of shape, hits his training regiment hard. But this time, the pounds don’t come off as quickly.

The workouts and sparring are harder to perform and harder to recover from. And worst of all, the snap in the punches is not there and the combinations are difficult to put together. He gets winded easy. And he gets frustrated. Slowly, the thoughts enter his mind “It’s okay. I’m a better fighter. I’ll just beat him with skill. Nothing to worry about. I don’t need to kill myself with this. I am the best. No problem.”

James Toney is a magnificent fighter. He is more technically skilled and savvy than any current Heavyweight out there. He is also 38 years old, borderline obese, and a cigar smoker. So far, his superior skills have carried him through his Heavyweight bouts, although they have been against outclassed opponents for the most part. On Saturday, March 18th at Boardwalk Hall, Toney will face his toughest Heavyweight challenge yet when he takes on newly crowned WBC Champ Hasim Rahman.

Although Rahman has had a checkered career as a fighter and inherited the WBC strap when Vitali Klitschko retired, he must be considered the larger threats to Toney’s Championship run so far, given his last few perfomances. Toney easily bested John Ruiz earlier for the WBA belt but was stripped when he tested positive for steroids. Add Ruiz to the previously mentioned outclassed opponents. Given the fact that Ruiz has beaten Rahman, will he be anymore of a challenge for Toney? Again, solely based on Rahman’s recent pummeling of Kali Meehan, I would say yes if for no other reason than Rahman seems to be inspired. So it’s Toney vs. Rahman. James is getting another shot. Looking at the track records of the fighters, Toney would seem to be the logical choice to win this fight on points, unless Rahman can land one of the “Lennox Lewis special” punches.

But will this be the fight that the age and weight catch up with Toney? James has not been in shape for any of his recent fights, but again won on skill. Look at Evander Holyfield. In his fairly recent fight with Larry Donald, Holyfield looked like the same magnificent physical specimen he has always been. But he appeared to be ready to drop at any moment, not from punches, but from sheer exhaustion. Although his skills have been slipping for years, it was almost as if someone flipped a switch and Evander had aged 10 years overnight. No combinations. Single punches with no power. Evander even admitted afterward that he knew what to do, he could see the openings, but his body simply wouldn’t respond in time to what his brain was telling it to do. By the time he reacted, it was too late. And this was from a man, although a few years older than Toney, seemed to be extremely fit.

Everyone always throws out the George Foreman example when discussing aging Heavyweights. Yes, Foreman won it at 45 but George is also rather a freak on nature. He is certainly the exception, not the rule. Toney does not have nearly the devastating knockout power of George. George was slow as molasses but could stand there and take a beating, bide his time, and wait to unload. Toney does not really have this option. His game is based on skill, speed, and reaction time. At 38 and vastly overweight, will the physical ability still be there after this passage of time? We will see.

James Toney is a breath of fresh air in a stagnant division. One must admire his single-minded determination and respect is due given what he’s done, especially as he is not a true Heavyweight. But the clock is ticking. Hopefully James can win his title legitimately and with no controversy, before someone flips the switch and the game is over.

Originally Posted by aceshigh james toney is trying to be like this guy

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