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Originally Posted by vette1derek
Who is Dorian Yates?
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Originally Posted by vette1derek
Who is Dorian Yates?
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Originally Posted by GymJamo
where did you get this information from?
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Originally Posted by vette1derek
Who is Dorian Yates?
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Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL)
week 1----2000mg test cyp---150mg dbol/a day
week 1----2000mg test cyp---150mg dbol/a day week 2 ----3000mg test cyp---200mg dbol/a day week 3-----4000mg test cyp---300mg dbol/day week 4 -----5000mg test cyp---no dbol week 5------3000mg test susp---200mg anadrol week 6------4000mg test susp---300mg anadrol week 7-------4000mg test susp---400mg anadrol week 9-------10,000 iu hcg--800mg clomid week10-------20,000iu hcg--1000mg clomid week 11------4000mg test prop---100mg halotestin week 12------4000mg test prop----200mg hal0 weel 13-------5000mg test prop----300mg halo week 14-------3000mg test sus-----300mg halo----1000mg masterone week 15-------4000mg test sus-----400mg halo----1000mg masterone weekl 16-------10,000iu hcg---1000mg clomid week 17--------20,000iu hcg---2000mg clomid week 18--------30 ,000iu hcg---3000mg clomid week 20---------2500mg test susp---1000mg of fina--- weel 21----------3500mg test susp--1500mg of fina week 22----------4500mg test susp--20oomg of fina week 23 ----------5000mg test susp---2500mg of fina week 24 ----------1500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol week 25-----------2500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol week 26 -----------3500 mg test prop----300mg anadrol---1000mg masterone/day week 27------------1500mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200mg winng/day week 29------------1500 mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200 mg winny/day week 30 ------------1500mg test susp------100mg anadrol---300mg winny/day |
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Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL GEAR
You need a [url="http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/imag/ana.html" testosterone[/url] base. 750mg/week is plenty.
You need an anabolic - deca or Eq at 400mg/week is plenty. You need for optimum growth, a good oral like d-bol at 30mg/d or A-50 50mg/d. You use the test and the anabolic non stop. The oral is 4 weeks on 4 weeks off. Every 6th week (the half way point between the off oral period - so 2 weeks after you finish the oral) you have a blood test. If the blood test is OK, then you can begin your next 4 weeks on oral. There is no reason for you to come off. The only 2 reasons are health or your receptors are saturated. If the regular blood test is OK, your health is OK. If you are still making progress, your receptors are OK. Coming off, will just sabotage your gains. |
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Originally Posted by vette1derek
Who is Dorian Yates?
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Originally Posted by P-funk
would this be a good first cycle? I am 17yrs old and started lifting weights 3 months ago but nothing is happening.
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...I know I am going to 300mg a week and thats modest
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Originally Posted by lnvanry
I don't believe it....I really don't think a human body could handle that....fuck a bull couldn't handle all that.
side note: I was speaking w/ one of my friends who works at a steer ranch and he said that they only give fina (the tablet under the skin) that releases about 200mg a week. Kind of scrary to think that BB who run tren take more than cattle ...I know I am going to 300mg a week and thats modest |
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Originally Posted by P-funk
Sorry guys,
I have no clue about this stuff. I mean, it looks to me like a lot of numbers and a lot of doses and you guys saying things like "a human body can't handle that" just confirms my thinking. My question is, if that is an insane amount of stuff to be on at once, what is an average amount of stuff that someone would use? Lets say a seasoned veteran (not a first time user). Not a pro-bb'er. Just the average Joe looking to make more progress in the gym. I just want to know so that I have something to relate the amounts listed above to. thanks. |
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Originally Posted by Purdue Power
Ya, the dbol doses seriously made my jaw drop. 25-30mg/day would be enough for about anybody. And ya, 500mg of test per week is a good starting point. A full gram is getting to be a lot.
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...in his opinion...5g of test is doable....WTF
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Originally Posted by lnvanry
So after reading this thread I called my supplier (who's IFBB since 99).
He said when he used to run dbol he would take 80g for 6wks...I know a lot of beginners who run 50...I ran 40 and recommend that as well. He also said he currently runs 2 g of test w/ various others (tren/EQ/) 1 g each. His deca doses are at 1.5g. He didn't seem that suprised w/ anything except the orals. He said the pretty much everything on that list is "doable" except the 300mg dbol ...in his opinion...5g of test is doable....WTF He's 6'1" currently 260ish...never gets his BF above 10%, ever |
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Originally Posted by lnvanry
So after reading this thread I called my supplier (who's IFBB since 99).
He said when he used to run dbol he would take 80g for 6wks... |
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Originally Posted by gococksDJS
Are you saying he consumes 80 grams of dbol in 6 weeks? that's over 1,900mg of dbol a day. Or do you mean 80mg/day for 6 weeks?
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Originally Posted by LAM
for as much gear as that guy runs his stats aren't that impressive. he would probably be a good 20-25 lbs lighter if he went completely off gear
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in my gym compared to everyone else.
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Originally Posted by gococksDJS
My last cycle was 12 weeks. 500mg/week of test enanthate in two 250mg shots on Monday and Thursday. 300mg of EQ with the test for 11 of the 12 weeks. First 4 weeks 25mg of dbol a day. 500 iu of HCG every 3 days or so starting week 3. I'm in no way a seasoned veteran but this provides a little bit of scale. I used half a gram of test a week, and he's going as high as 5 grams according to XXL's post.
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Originally Posted by lnvanry
He isn't top notch compared to the elites....compared to the average BB like myself, he is very impressive...or at least looks
in my gym compared to everyone else.This is the same person that told me site growth isn't a theory...it work according to him. He only runs bi/tri/quad/calf shots too .He is a walking laboratory, but the guy (I think he's 28 or 29) trains his ass off and eats like what most of us only read about. It takes a combo of both skills and "resources" to be successful in the sport IMO. |
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Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL)
It is possible, but we are talking about 8-10 years of use before the muscle in witch you injected all of the time is bigger than the rest( everything grows together) but that is not a good thing, look at Ernie Taylor a top pro in 1995-2001, but than his tri's in witch he injected all the time, got to big and looked like synthol arms, not just because they where big, but he shot in the middle tri, and that one was just getting a little out of shape. Now he does not even qualify for any big show anymore and he knows it, he can undergo surgery, to fix it. Chris Dim also has it with his tri's, a little less, but that's just a matter of time.
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Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL)
It is possible, but we are talking about 8-10 years of use before the muscle in witch you injected all of the time is bigger than the rest( everything grows together) but that is not a good thing, look at Ernie Taylor a top pro in 1995-2001, but than his tri's in witch he injected all the time, got to big and looked like synthol arms, not just because they where big, but he shot in the middle tri, and that one was just getting a little out of shape. Now he does not even qualify for any big show anymore and he knows it, he can undergo surgery, to fix it. Chris Dim also has it with his tri's, a little less, but that's just a matter of time.
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Originally Posted by HANK-VISSER
shut the fuck up man, ernie taylor is using synthol for 100%
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
No shit!!!!! all the people who believe site injections cause localized growth need to stop with that stupid shit.....now!! |


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Originally Posted by aceshigh
i reckon that dorian yates cycle is crap ,,,i dont think its right if so where the hgh and shit like that?????????/
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Originally Posted by HANK-VISSER
shut the fuck up man, ernie taylor is using synthol for 100%
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He's smiling too
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Originally Posted by HANK-VISSER
that is not what i am saying, but please explain this:
![]() ![]() that my friend is synthol |
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Originally Posted by kicka19
that synthol shit is so nasty, what is that dude with the mohawk thinking? that looks so fuckn gross its unbelievable
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Originally Posted by lnvanry
i don't think GH was mass produced then...I though in Yates' years they took GH from cadavers.?
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Originally Posted by aceshigh
are u for real??????????we are not talking about the 50s here gh from cadavers in the 90s i doubt it,,,,i think u took your brain from a cadaver
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Originally Posted by aceshigh
dorian hit it in the big time by the 90s,,,,,
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Originally Posted by Stu
true, i think dorians main weapon of choice was big doses of slin. If you compare him with arnold there is a big difference in type of physic. Dorian is very "blocky" with a thick waist, more like BBs today where as arnold has a much smaller waist.
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Originally Posted by HANK-VISSER
true, he used a lot of insulin...........and he also used gh big time.
on it |
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
My guess is he is thinking about raping his sister and lynching a Negro...
Just a guess |
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Originally Posted by brokeass122
Funny he copied my exact cycle
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Originally Posted by aceshigh
are u for real??????????we are not talking about the 50s here gh from cadavers in the 90s i doubt it,,,,i think u took your brain from a cadaver
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Originally Posted by Stu
they were still using cadaver gh in the 80s
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Originally Posted by LAM
there are no medical studies that show that steroids promote localized growth at any rate.
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
No shit!!!!! all the people who believe site injections cause localized growth need to stop with that stupid shit.....now!!
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Originally Posted by P-funk
would this be a good first cycle? I am 17yrs old and started lifting weights 3 months ago but nothing is happening.
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that is insane...and it begs the question. Is what seperates the normal person from the pro only time and resources?? Surely anyone who does this amount over a long period of time as they have and trains merely with some degree of efficiency could be just as large. If that IS in fact the case, then bodybuilding as a sport is completely broken. All this talk of genetics blah blah....sounds like the only genetics involved is if the person's body can withstand the stress of all the gear necessary to promote this kind of growth.
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Yes I like to support and encourage all teenagers with 2 or more weeks training to jump right into a huge steroid cycle.....I recommend you double the doses and do it for 20-25 weeks..
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True or not, I'd rather have Arnold's physique of the 70s than Yate's physique of the 90s.
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I don't believe it....I really don't think a human body could handle that....fuck a bull couldn't handle all that.
side note: I was speaking w/ one of my friends who works at a steer ranch and he said that they only give fina (the tablet under the skin) that releases about 200mg a week. Kind of scrary to think that BB who run tren take more than cattle ...I know I am going to 300mg a week and thats modest |