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I really like that workout TT. Whats with the low reps on deads? This is ME Squat/Dead day. Silly rabbit.
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Double D
DOMSThanks. For some reason, deads are my best lift. I can't squat worth shit, though. ![]() |
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I'm inclined to believe it's psychological. Do you squat with a spotter or in a cage?
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Hey, everyone has their lifts. Some people are just stronger with DLs, I guess. I'm the opposite.
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Nice wo Trip ! I did some of your 1 leg db sldl's last sunday. Did you hear me cursing your name ? LOL
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Gary
Gary

It finally stopped raining. 
DOMSI always squat in a cage. I've got one at home too, so even when I do a quick workout at home instead of the gym, I'm covered. I've dumped the bar on more than one occasion so I know what that feels like. I'm not worried about getting buried. Maybe I just have poor mechanics for squatting. ![]() |
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Fri, Nov 17
Except for the one warm-up, all exercises were done as drop sets. Basically no rest except to change weights or setup for the next exercise. Incline Bench 135 x 8 (warm-up) 195 x 7 155 x 6 135 x 5 Flat Bench Press 195 x 6 155 x 6 135 x 4 Decline Bench Press 195 x 4 155 x 6 135 x 5 BB Rows 195 x 11 175 x 8 155 x 6 Lat Pulldowns (plates x reps) 15 x 6 12 x 6 10 x 5 HS High Rows 240 x 7 190 x 6 140 x 6 Close Grip Bench Press 195 x 8 155 x 6 135 x 5 Dips BW+35 x 5 BW+20 x 3 BW x 3 Tricep extensions (plates x reps) 7 x 6 5 x 6 4 x 5 I wasn't planning on doing the extensions, but the set of dips didn't do much for me. BB Military Press 90 x 8 70 x 6 50 x 6 BB Curls 70 x 9 50 x 6 40 x 6 BW: 229 Time: 48 minutes Cardio Elliptical – 15 minutes |
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Sonofabitch!!!! That workout looks like mine. Except where the ME or DE bench lift?? But damn that is one hell of a workout!
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Fri, Nov 17
Except for the one warm-up, all exercises were done as drop sets. Basically no rest except to change weights or setup for the next exercise. Incline Bench 135 x 8 (warm-up) 195 x 7 155 x 6 135 x 5 Flat Bench Press 195 x 6 155 x 6 135 x 4 Decline Bench Press 195 x 4 155 x 6 135 x 5 BB Rows 195 x 11 175 x 8 155 x 6 Lat Pulldowns (plates x reps) 15 x 6 12 x 6 10 x 5 HS High Rows 240 x 7 190 x 6 140 x 6 Close Grip Bench Press 195 x 8 155 x 6 135 x 5 Dips BW+35 x 5 BW+20 x 3 BW x 3 Tricep extensions (plates x reps) 7 x 6 5 x 6 4 x 5 I wasn't planning on doing the extensions, but the set of dips didn't do much for me. BB Military Press 90 x 8 70 x 6 50 x 6 BB Curls 70 x 9 50 x 6 40 x 6 BW: 229 Time: 48 minutes Cardio Elliptical – 15 minutes |
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Sonofabitch!!!! That workout looks like mine. Except where the ME or DE bench lift?? But damn that is one hell of a workout!
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Trip is known for "borrowing" . But he does it as a form of flattery
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See above. Just felt like trying something different on DE bench day. I'm not planning on leaving Westside anytime soon.
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Well done, trips.
OK, I've missed a lot of time here, and you're doing things much different than my w/outs, so what are speed deads? |
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Speed deads are exploding upwards as fat as possible with about 60% of your 1rm. And the negative part of it going down pretty quick, but in a controlled fahion.
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how;s about just a good old high rep bodybuilder style RE Day (repetition effort) to replace DE days? I hate the speed work too...kills my elbows and I can't really say I ever got anything out of it either.
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We'll see.
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I think I may start going back to rep work as well. I dont feel like I get anything outa speed work either.
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Excellent w/o's Brother Triple!!! You keep killin it in the Gym my Friend!!!
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A home-made pr0n joke. But I was also going to talk about your form.
You said you lean forward. Are you placing the bar too far back? Maybe it's a weakness in your glutes? Take my advice with a lot of salt (not just a grain), but I think that leaning forward would take a lot off of the glutes and place it on the hamstrings. |
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60% of 1rm? Is that what you are doing? I really never feel anything.
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lookin good trips. ur numbers are awesome...how is the cardio werkin out for ya?
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fyred
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Mon, Nov 20
Suspended CG Bench Press 135 x 3 185 x 3 225 x 3 255 x 2 275 x 1 255 x 1 These were harder than I thought they would have been. |
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In a power cage. I use a flat bench elevated on two 6 inch wooden platforms. Then I set the safety bars so that when the barbell is resting on them, the barbell is 1-2 inches above my chest. That's the starting position. Press up and back down, let the barbell settle on the safety bars, and repeat.
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Ahh, I see, isn't that technically just considered a rack press or a pin press?
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You're probably right. I'll have to start calling them that instead.
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I wonder what it will be on Friday?
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Wed, Nov 22. ME Lower
I’ve gone back to a more conventional Westside approach. As I thought about it, doing a ME Deadlift workout on Wednesday and doing a ME Squat day on Saturday just wasn’t optimal. I’ll be focusing on squats for now, but I have found that if I don’t deadlift on a regular basis, I lose strength in that lift. So I’ll be doing a few token deads after squatting, just to try to keep the strength up. ![]() |
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445 is a big dead. Fuckin beast.
Stewart and TT I am going to incorporate some 3x3 into my lower routines. On ME squat day I am also going to do 3x3 on deads. And vice versa. I wanna see it does. Maybe a bad idea, but who knows? |
. Usually it's someone 20 years younger and I can fall back on the 'I'm just an old man trying to keep up". That excuse won't work with Trips around
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you know, I am actually going to try that same thing. I am gonna do a ME deadlift and a ME squat in the same week. I haven't done it yet, so I don't know what's going to happen.
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I agree that you have to deadlift regularly or else you will lose strength, kind of the use it or lose it principle. I don't like how westside tells you to get strong a similar lifts to the actual powerlifts. I think you need to do the actual powerlifts to get strong at them, or at least include them in a rotation of ME exercises. I deadlifted on Sunday. I just don't think it makes sense to not do a 1RM squat until my 2 or 3 week deadlift run is over. On the flip side, I want to keep progressing my deadlift so to alternate weeks of squats and deadlifts doesn't seem optimal to me either. so the only logical conclusion is to do them both in the same week! |
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Now let me ask you this....what do you think contributes more to overall fatigue from these workouts...is it the 1RM attempts or all the assistance work we do? I am trying to make a case of doing less intense accessory work (high rep, not to failure stuff) and just focusing on increasing the ME lifts. In fact, I might not even attempt to make weight progress on the accessory lifts, maybe rep progress or just a lot of reps to add to the total workload. |
| I am also attempting to train more instinctively in my workout days. for example, if I have been on a day on/day off schedule, yet I come home from work and feel great on an "off" day, why shouldn't I work out on that day and take advantage of that feeling? Or I just wait for my regular "scheduled" day and I may feel like crap on that day, so I wasted a good day.... |
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445 is a big dead. Fuckin beast.
Stewart and TT I am going to incorporate some 3x3 into my lower routines. On ME squat day I am also going to do 3x3 on deads. And vice versa. I wanna see it does. Maybe a bad idea, but who knows? |
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Fantastic w/o Brother Triple!!! Hope your Thanksgiving is a GREAT one my Friend!!!
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Every time I'm encouraged with my own deads, I see this crap
. Usually it's someone 20 years younger and I can fall back on the 'I'm just an old man trying to keep up". That excuse won't work with Trips around . |
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yeah...hey old man...nice deads!
way to go! I ttell ya what: You earned that turkey dinner. Dig in and have fun. ![]() |
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Unless the volume for the assistance work is ungodly (upwards of 30-40 sets, for example), I would say the 1RM attempts are hardest on the body. That's one of the reason's why I won't attempt singles every week, sometimes stopping at the point where triples become difficult. |
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so...here's a question, as you know how I do my deads: pyramid from 15 reps to working sets of 5.
Think it would be good to do that one week..then the next week, mroe like you do: heavier 1 rep sets? |
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Its just so tough to do singles on a regular basis because those are kinda tough to keep form (even though I do it all the time).
HI TT HOW YA DOING? Hope the turkey day was excellent. I am stuffed. |
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LOL, LOVE the new routine, I say JC training for sure!!! Hope your Thanksgiving was GREAT my Friend!!!
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Whats up with pressing as much as bench as you do on incline?
Nice bw by the way. haha |
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that almost looked like a circuit workout today, was this in response to the gorge fest yesterday????
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triple threat how much do you weigh? What are some goals you got?
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Welcome to my journal, Brutus.
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I'm packing a not-so-svelte 230 lbs on a 6 ft frame. Body fat is probably somewhere around the 18% mark, give or take a couple of %. At the age of 52, gaining a lot of size is not very high on my priority list, nor is it very likely to occur without some form of Vitamin S. I've been lifting since I was 24, so I've used up all my newbie gains, too.
![]() I'd like to maintain (or not lose too much of) my strength. I don't want to turn into a decrepit old man. ![]() |
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Ahh, I see, isn't that technically just considered a rack press or a pin press? When I saw suspended, I was thinking along the lines of actually suspending the barbell from the top of the cage using chains and then pressing, kind of like a suspended good morning in a cage.
Either way, they are still tough as hell. Starting from that dead stop at the bottom is just plain old rough stuff |

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C'mon ... you've only been working out for almost 30 years......You can squeeze a few "newbie gains" out
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haha...havent commented i n while...hows it goin trips...yea...like moomba sed...im sure u can get somee newbie gains in there...for the numbers u put up...haha...lookin good man...keep up the good work...
and for 52...ur probably the strongest man i know...at that age at least...damn |
fyred
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nice wo's Trip,
Your BW on Friday reminds me of mine . Back to the grind for another 3-4 weeks 'til the next holiday(s) |
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Man, does this sound familar! Except my bf is higher, and I started at 34....
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JD
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I'm a little late, but what you're referring to is a "reverse band" bench press... I think it's always done with bands... I've never seen or heard of it done with chains, but I guess it *could* be possible. You can also use reverse bands on squats and deadlifts. Using reverse bands works the lockout more, whereas what Trips did by suspending his CG press was working the bottom portion more because the stretch reflex is taken out of the movement.
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Sean
SeanThanks for clearing that up for us. I was trying to take the stretch reflex out of the press. Perhaps I should set the safety bars higher to work only the triceps? Or maybe use bands? |
JDI often wonder what would have happened if I had started lifting in my teens. Who knows, I may have alread burned out by now. ![]() |
JDI often wonder what would have happened if I had started lifting in my teens. Who knows, I may have alread burned out by now. ![]() |
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My dad bought me my first barbell/dumbells when I was 15, basically been at it since then . You'd think I'd have more to show for it LOL
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Gary
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More than likely... Sometimes I feel like I'm falling apart at 20 years old
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Sean
Guess I've been going downhill for a long time. Am I gaining momentum?
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I always felt my 'prime' was my early 30s, but as far as weight training goes it wasn't unitl my late 40s where I felt I started going backwards. Mainly lack of endurance and injuries.
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JD
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Hey TT hit some BP this weekend and absolutly killed it. I hit one ball every bit of 380. I felt pretty good.
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Wed, Nov 29. ME Squat/DL
Squats 135 x 3 185 x 3 225 x 3 275 x 3 295 x 1 305 x 1 Thought about 315, but didn’t do it. It’s the thought that counts, right? ![]() Deadlifts 315 x 1 385 x 1 435 x 1 465 x 1 2 x BW 485 ![]() A mixed bag of deadlift results today. I struggled with 435, but it went up. 465 was easy and as smooth as could be. The 485 felt as if someone had glued the plates to the floor. ![]() SLDL 225 x 5 (4 sets) 45 degree Leg Press 450 x 12 540 x 12 HS Low Row 190 x 8 190 x 8 190 x 7 Cable Crunch (plates x reps) 8 x 12 10 x 12 11 x 8 11 x 7 Hanging Leg Raises 10 7 Time: 70 minutes (long RIs during the 1 rep sets) Cardio Elliptical – 15 minutes |
Billie
Stewart
I was wondering if anyone was going to catch that.
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A White Steel is a very good single wall bat. But put a composite in your hands and add another 20 feet onto that ball. I was hitting 525 compression ball. But it was 44 cor.
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Double D
I've only used a composite once during BP, but the balls were mush and not going anywhere. The league I play in is single wall only, which given the talent level, is sufficient.