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Triple Threat's Terrific Tales of Training Triumphs, Trials and Tribulations


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Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Stewart20 View Post
just add weight, do a couple of sets a couple of times a week, and I would bet your squat would go up.
Definitely something to consider, perhaps after I get through with the current plan.

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for example, if i said you could work up to a single set of ATG squats of 315 for 6 reps by then end of February, OR work up to 265 x 6 for 5 sets by the end of February, which would you choose???
I would choose 315 x 6 for 5 sets. That's not allowed? To tell the truth, I'm not sure.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by b_reed23 View Post
nice workout Trips! your deadlifts always amaze me
Billie

THanks and nice of you to stop by.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by camarosuper6 View Post
Looks steady.. more volume than I personally like for strength, but its working for you.

My only advice would be dont overthink or analyze. People will break things down into crumbs for you if your not careful.

Bottom line... increase weight or reps on the bar whenever possible and you will be gaining ground.
Cam

There's some good advice in there, especially the last sentence. THanks.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
Excellent w/o BRother Triple!!! I agree with Brother Camaro!!!
Arch

Yes, he certainly nailed it.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Pylon View Post
Woohoo! Great work, trips!
Pylon

Thank you, kind sir. You've become my cardio inspiration.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Burner02 View Post
hey stew...u think that is a lot of volume? He only did seven sets for chest..6 on back and 5 on legs...
Burner

I guess it's all relative. Perhaps he meant all in one workout.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Stewart20 View Post
When I try more volume, I feel like I get the overtraining symptoms such as extreme tiredness, my muscles get very sore, and I just feel like crap for a couple of days. With the low volume, I usually feel fine the next day, most of the time just minor muscle soreness and usually not so tired.
Stewart

I've always done better with more volume rather than less. I ride it for as long as I can, and then back off at the first sign of overtraining. After having lifted for 29 years, I'm very good at reading those signs.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
Hope all is well BRother Triple!!! Whatever works for you my Friend, do it, there really is no right/wrong way, if it's right for you then it's gotta be right!!! Hope that made sense, LOL!!!
Arch

I think you're right. There is no one size fits all.



Posted by: Malley

Hi Trips. Glad to see some of those squat numbers are goin up. Thats awesome!



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Hi Trips. Glad to see some of those squat numbers are goin up. Thats awesome!
Double D

Thanks. They're starting to climb again, although slowly. Any progress is good as far as I'm concerned.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Fri, Jan 12

Squats
135 x 6
205 x 3
245 x 5 (7 sets)

Bench Press
135 x 6
225 x 2 (6 sets)

Close Grip Bench Press
205 x 6 (2 sets)

Dips
30 x 6 (2 sets)

Pendlay Rows
135 x 6
235 x 5
235 x 4
235 x 4

Pull-ups
BW+10 x 4
BW+10 x 3
BW+10 x 3

BB Military Press
105 x 6
105 x 4

Chin-ups
BW+10 x 4
BW+10 x 3
BW+10 x 3

Time: 65 minutes

Cardio
.5 mile jog
50 yd sprints x 6

No bananas today, but that’s the third straight feel-good workout this week. Must resist urge to do more. Of course, I had a day off before each one of them.



Posted by: camarosuper6

Just because your not going up in weight or even reps doesnt mean your not making progress. Thats when I like to add an extra set for increased load per workout.





Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by camarosuper6 View Post
Just because your not going up in weight or even reps doesnt mean your not making progress. Thats when I like to add an extra set for increased load per workout.

I just read about this simple, but great, methodology. Go for TT!



Posted by: Archangel

Good lookin w/o, if it feels good, it must be good right!!!



Posted by: Pylon

Nice work once again, Trips!



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
I just read about this simple, but great, methodology.
DOMS

You mean see a heavy weight, pick it up. Make it heavier. Repeat.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by camarosuper6 View Post
Just because your not going up in weight or even reps doesnt mean your not making progress. Thats when I like to add an extra set for increased load per workout.

Cam

Oh, I realize that. And sometimes you have to take a couple of steps backwards to make progress, too. It's just that after 29 years of lifting, progress is measured in itty-bitty steps.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
Good lookin w/o, if it feels good, it must be good right!!!
Arch

I like "if it feels good, keep doing it".



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Pylon View Post
Nice work once again, Trips!
Pylon



Posted by: Triple Threat

Sat, Jan 13

Squats
135 x 5
225 x 3
260 x 3 (10 sets)

Speed Deadlifts
285 x 2 (4 sets)

That’s it! No accessory work today. Back was feeling a little tired. I’m glad it was raining, since that solved the question of doing cardio or not. Not!

So that’s 3 weeks down of torture training, one week into this new squat meso-cycle. Surprisingly, I started feeling better as the day went on.



Posted by: Archangel

Simple and Efficient, good lookin w/o Brother Triple!!!



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Triple Threat View Post
Cam

Oh, I realize that. And sometimes you have to take a couple of steps backwards to make progress, too. It's just that after 29 years of lifting, progress is measured in itty-bitty steps.
You don't have to go backward, just change your course for a bit.



Posted by: Malley

So wheres you squat numbers compared to where they were?



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Double D View Post
So wheres you squat numbers compared to where they were?
If I can keep up with the program, I won't be doing a 1RM until for another couple of weeks. For other rep ranges, I'm either at or close to previous best.



Posted by: Malley

Nice keep up the good work buddy.



Posted by: Burner02

Hiya Trips!



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Nice keep up the good work buddy.
Thanks, DD. I keep thinking about softball and that keeps the motivation high.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Burner02 View Post
Hiya Trips!
Burner



Posted by: Triple Threat

Mon, Jan 15

Squats
135 x 6
185 x 3
235 x 9 PR
235 x 9
235 x 7

Bench Press
135 x 6
185 x 3
240 x 5
240 x 5
240 x 4
240 x 4
240 x 3

Pendlay Rows
135 x 8
185 x 8
195 x 8

Dips
35 x 6
35 x 6
35 x 4

Pull-ups
BW+10 x 5
BW+10 x 4
BW+10 x 3

BB Military Press
115 x 5 Ties a PR

Chin-ups
BW+10 x 5
BW+10 x 3

Time: 65 minutes

Cardio
Elliptical – 10 minutes. Oh please stop raining. I’m getting sick of this machine.

It was a mixed bag today. There were a couple of bananas, but I also didn’t hit the target reps for some sets. Squats were supposed to have been 4x9 with 20 lbs more than last week, but the back gave out on the third set. Since I don’t take chances with my back, I immediately stopped. Bench was supposed to have been 5x5, but that didn’t happen either.

This is week 4 of the latest plan. It was also week 4 when things started to go downhill when I was doing the 5x5 routine not too long ago.



Posted by: Archangel

Excellent PR's Brother Triple!!! Have you thought about just doing 2 sets to save your back, you can also go all out more knowing 2 sets is it, kinda like a Lions mentality, Go ALL out quickly, and be done!!! Sorry for ramblin on my Friend!!!

Solid w/o my Friend!!!



Posted by: Pylon

Great work, Trips. Congrats on the PR!



Posted by: Burner02

what he said!



Posted by: Malley

You betcha, softball always keeps me going! BTW nice PR!



Posted by: Stewart20

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Originally Posted by Triple Threat View Post

This is week 4 of the latest plan. It was also week 4 when things started to go downhill when I was doing the 5x5 routine not too long ago.
Congrats on the bananas big guy, but like I told you when you were doing the 5x5 the last time......might be too much volume for you! Did you take any of those sets to failure? For example, on the bench press, when you missed the 5 reps on the last couple of sets, were those failure attempts, or did you just stop cause you knew you had nothing left?

you might be ok with the added volume, if you definitely stop short of failure and manage the fatigue a little better. I gotta tell you , from my workout yesterday, since I have done it both ways, that I did 10 sets of 3 reps on trap bar deadlifts with 80% of my projected 1RM, and I felt a lot better afterwards than if I had just done 2 sets of 4-5 reps to failure at a higher weight. My muscles are killing me today, but I didn't have the exhausted feeling after the workout was over that failure gives me.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
Excellent PR's Brother Triple!!! Have you thought about just doing 2 sets to save your back,
Arch

I've decided to put the heavy deads on hold until I finish with this squat program. I realized yesterday that it was just too much for my back.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Pylon View Post
Great work, Trips. Congrats on the PR!
Pylon

Thanks muchly.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Burner02 View Post
what he said!
Burner

And a muchas gracias to you too.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Double D View Post
You betcha, softball always keeps me going! BTW nice PR!
DD

Hopefully all this work will pay off on the field.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Stewart20 View Post
Congrats on the bananas big guy, but like I told you when you were doing the 5x5 the last time......might be too much volume for you! Did you take any of those sets to failure? For example, on the bench press, when you missed the 5 reps on the last couple of sets, were those failure attempts, or did you just stop cause you knew you had nothing left?

you might be ok with the added volume, if you definitely stop short of failure and manage the fatigue a little better. I gotta tell you , from my workout yesterday, since I have done it both ways, that I did 10 sets of 3 reps on trap bar deadlifts with 80% of my projected 1RM, and I felt a lot better afterwards than if I had just done 2 sets of 4-5 reps to failure at a higher weight. My muscles are killing me today, but I didn't have the exhausted feeling after the workout was over that failure gives me.
Stewart

When I stop short of my desired number of reps, it's either that my form is getting sloppy or I feel that I'm about to get crushed by the bar. Very seldom is it due to absolute failure. And I think that is why I can get away with high volume.



Posted by: Archangel

BEST wishes to you my Friend!!!



Posted by: Triple Threat

Wed, Jan 17

Squats
135 x 6
205 x 3
225 x 3
245 x 3
255 x 3
250 x 7 PR
250 x 7
250 x 6
250 x 5

Bench Press
135 x 6
225 x 2 (6 sets)

Speed Deadlifts
295 x 2 (6 sets)

Ab Crunch Machine
45 x 12
90 x 12
135 x 10
135 x 10
135 x 8

Hyperextensions
35 x 6 (3 sets)

Time: 70 minutes

Cardio


I came to the conclusion that the max effort DLs were fatiguing my back and with all the squatting, I wasn’t giving the back time to recover. So until this squat program is over, I’ll keep the DLs to speed work only.



Posted by: Archangel

GREAT w/o, smart decision, and CONGRATS on the PR my Friend!!!



Posted by: Malley

Yet another PR, thats always nice, before you know it you will be squatting 400lb!!!!



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
GREAT w/o, smart decision, and CONGRATS on the PR my Friend!!!
Arch

Thanks, Arch. Too soon old. Too late smart.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Yet another PR, thats always nice, before you know it you will be squatting 400lb!!!!
DD

400? Only in my dreams. But it's good to have goals.



Posted by: Pylon

Nice work. Pretty soon we'll be calling you Captain Squat!



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Pylon View Post
Nice work. Pretty soon we'll be calling you Captain Squat!




Posted by: Triple Threat

Fri, Jan 19

The numbers in parentheses after the exercise are what I’m supposed to do according to the training program. Numbers are sets x reps.

Squats (7 x 5)
135 x 6
185 x 3
225 x 3
265 x 5 (4 sets) PR
265 x 4 (2 sets)

Bench Press (4 x 4)
135 x 6
185 x 3
225 x 3
255 x 4 PR
255 x 4
255 x 3
255 x 2

Close Grip Bench Press
225 x 4
225 x 4
225 x 3

Dips
40 x 5
40 x 4

Pendlay Rows
235 x 6
235 x 6

Pull-ups
BW+10 x 5
BW+10 x 4

BB Military Press
115 x 7 PR

Chin-ups
BW+10 x 6 PR Pretty pathetic when this is a PR.
BW+10 x 4

I didn’t do any cardio on Wednesday. Could this be the cause of the 4 ?



Posted by: Stewart20

4 bananas! Awesome work Captain Squat! Or should we call you Captain Bench? Or maybe Captain Military Press??? Or how about Captain Chinup?


Of course, my feeling is that I knew you had all this in you already, you just took the scenic route to get there with all these 7x5, 4x5, 5x5 schemes you've been following



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Triple Threat View Post
I didn’t do any cardio on Wednesday. Could this be the cause of the 4 ?
Great job on all the PRs!

I'm interested to see what you find out about cardio's affect on your workouts. Yes is may be anecdotal, but I'd place more trust in that than in all those shitty magazines and books.



Posted by: Malley

PR maniac!!!! Very nice.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Stewart20 View Post
4 bananas! Awesome work Captain Squat! Or should we call you Captain Bench? Or maybe Captain Military Press??? Or how about Captain Chinup?


Of course, my feeling is that I knew you had all this in you already, you just took the scenic route to get there with all these 7x5, 4x5, 5x5 schemes you've been following
Stewart

Captain Banana?

The scenic route? I'm finding it hard to believe the 5x5 kicked my ass, but I'm doing OK on this motley collection.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Great job on all the PRs!

I'm interested to see what you find out about cardio's affect on your workouts. Yes is may be anecdotal, but I'd place more trust in that than in all those shitty magazines and books.
DOMS

I'm hoping there's no connection, because I don't really want to entirely stop the cardio. After seeing today's results, I skipped today's cardio also to see what effect it will have on tomorrow's lifting.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Double D View Post
PR maniac!!!! Very nice.
Double D

Thanks, DD. There's hope for us old guys after all.



Posted by: Archangel

FANTASTIC job on the PR's my Friend, or should I say Brother Banana!!! Good stuff, keep it goin, helps me out to see you ALL do so good!!!



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
FANTASTIC job on the PR's my Friend, or should I say Brother Banana!!! Good stuff, keep it goin, helps me out to see you ALL do so good!!!
Arch

Brother Banana sounds good to me.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Sat, Jan 20

Squats (10 x 3)
135 x 6
225 x 3
280 x 3 (7 sets)
280 x 2

Speed Deadlifts
295 x 2 (2 sets)
305 x 2 (4 sets)


No bananas for me. I’ve tripled 295 before, but I don’t think I ever done that many sets of them at one time. All those squats must have fried my brain too, since I couldn’t even load the bar correctly for speed DLs. I had intended to do 305, but did 2 sets before realizing I had goofed.



Posted by: Burner02

How about a promotion to:
MAJOR WORKOUT




Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Burner02 View Post
How about a promotion to:
MAJOR WORKOUT




Posted by: Triple Threat

Mon, Jan 22

Squats (4 x 9)
135 x 6
205 x 3
245 x 9 PR
245 x 9
245 x 8
245 x 6

Bench Press (6 x 2)
135 x 6
185 x 3
225 x 2 (6 sets)

Pendlay Rows
185 x 6
245 x 5 PR
245 x 4

BB Military Press
135 x 3 PR
135 x 3

Dips
40 x 6
40 x 5

Pull-ups
BW+12 x 4
BW+12 x 3:

Chin-ups
BW+12 x 4
BW+12 x 3

Time: 65 minutes

Cardio
.25 mi jog
50 yd sprint x 6



Posted by: Archangel

Excellent w/o, Brother Banana at it again, Good Stuff my Friend!!!



Posted by: Stewart20

you are doing one strange workout, that's all I can say about that, but the bananas keep coming Hmm, could it be working? I think you are on the right path, but I am scared for you with all that volume

I have a feeling there is a wall with your name on it that you will be hitting in the not so distant future....but until it happens, have fun and go with it



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
Excellent w/o, Brother Banana at it again, Good Stuff my Friend!!!
Thanks, Arch.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Stewart20 View Post
you are doing one strange workout, that's all I can say about that, but the bananas keep coming Hmm, could it be working? I think you are on the right path, but I am scared for you with all that volume

I have a feeling there is a wall with your name on it that you will be hitting in the not so distant future....but until it happens, have fun and go with it
It's an experiment. For squats, I've been following Smolov squat cycle. It's a 13-week program. 2 weeks intro, 4 weeks basic mesocycle, 2 weeks switching, 4 weeks intense mesocycle, 1 week taper.

I'm into week 3 of the basic mesocycle. Squats are done 4 times a week. Day 1 is 4x9 @70% 1RM, Day 3 is 5x7 @75%, Day 5 is 7x5 @80% and Day 6 is 10x3 @85%. Week 2 adds 20 lbs to each day. Week 3 adds another 10 to the week 2 weights. Week 4 is go for a best 1RM. I'm not getting all the reps at this stage. I just do what I can.

For bench, I'm doing a Russian program. It's a 6 week program, benching 3 days a week. The program alternates easy and hard days. Easy is always 6x2 @80%. The first 3 weeks is 6 sets, increasing reps each hard workout, up to 6x6. The weight remains constant.
For the second three weeks, again alternating, this time the hard workouts increase the weight, while dropping the total volume.

I've planned it so week 6 of squatting coincides with week 6 of benching.

For accessory work, it started out 4x6, dropping 1 set every two weeks. I'm down to 2x6 (planned) for accessory work.

I've got 2 weeks left before I take a break. Then I'll decide if I'm going to continue the squat program. Not sure what I'll do about everything else.



Posted by: Stewart20

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Originally Posted by Triple Threat View Post
It's an experiment. For squats, I've been following Smolov squat cycle. It's a 13-week program. 2 weeks intro, 4 weeks basic mesocycle, 2 weeks switching, 4 weeks intense mesocycle, 1 week taper.

I'm into week 3 of the basic mesocycle. Squats are done 4 times a week. Day 1 is 4x9 @70% 1RM, Day 3 is 5x7 @75%, Day 5 is 7x5 @80% and Day 6 is 10x3 @85%. Week 2 adds 20 lbs to each day. Week 3 adds another 10 to the week 2 weights. Week 4 is go for a best 1RM. I'm not getting all the reps at this stage. I just do what I can.

For bench, I'm doing a Russian program. It's a 6 week program, benching 3 days a week. The program alternates easy and hard days. Easy is always 6x2 @80%. The first 3 weeks is 6 sets, increasing reps each hard workout, up to 6x6. The weight remains constant.
For the second three weeks, again alternating, this time the hard workouts increase the weight, while dropping the total volume.

I've planned it so week 6 of squatting coincides with week 6 of benching.

For accessory work, it started out 4x6, dropping 1 set every two weeks. I'm down to 2x6 (planned) for accessory work.

I've got 2 weeks left before I take a break. Then I'll decide if I'm going to continue the squat program. Not sure what I'll do about everything else.
My God, I got all from reading all that!



Posted by: Pylon

Great job once again, Trips!



Posted by: Malley

I like what you are doing and I am the same as you. I get more out of more volume, I will try it once I get done with what I am doing, well either that or the workout DOMS has, I really like it!



Posted by: DeadBolt

Hey TTT how goes everything?

Srill traveling the world and eating small foreign people?



Posted by: Archangel

Whats up BRother Triple??? Hope all is well my Friend!!!



Posted by: Stewart20

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Originally Posted by Stewart20 View Post
I have a feeling there is a wall with your name on it that you will be hitting in the not so distant future....but until it happens, have fun and go with it


love your new avatar!



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Pylon View Post
Great job once again, Trips!
Thanks, Py.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Double D View Post
I like what you are doing and I am the same as you. I get more out of more volume, I will try it once I get done with what I am doing, well either that or the workout DOMS has, I really like it!
DD

I've always had better luck with high(er) volume workouts. I'll be watching DOMS and see what kind of results he gets.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by DeadBolt View Post
Hey TTT how goes everything?

Srill traveling the world and eating small foreign people?
DB

No international traveling lately for me. We finished the Spanish and Italian jobs. We're now bidding more work overseas, but even if we win it, there won't be any foreign travel until 2008 at the earliest.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
Whats up BRother Triple??? Hope all is well my Friend!!!
Arch

Going good. Or was going good.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Stewart20 View Post

love your new avatar!
Stewart

Either you've got a future in fortune-telling or you jinxed me big-time, but you sure called that one.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Wed, Jan 24

Squats (5 x 7 @260)
135 x 6
185 x 3
225 x 3
260 x 5
260 x 5
255 x 4
255 x 3

Bench Press (3 x 3 @270)
135 x 6
225 x 3
270 x 1 (failed during second rep)
265 x 1 (did not attempt a second rep)
265 x 1 (did not attempt a second rep)

Speed Deadlifts
315 x 2 (3 sets)

Lunges (reps are per leg)
85 x 8
85 x 5

One leg RDLs
70 x 8 (2 sets)

Hyperextensions
40 x 8 (2 sets)

Ab Crunch Machine
90 x 15
135 x 10
135 x 10

Cardio
.25 mi jog
50 yd sprint x 6

I knew I was getting close to hitting the wall, but I thought it might have been more gradual than it was. Mentally I was ready, but physically it just wasn’t happening. I thought that I’d be able to get a couple of 7 rep sets. I knew I was in trouble when the 260 felt heavy just unracking the weight. Nothing hurt, but the strength just wasn’t there.



Posted by: Stewart20

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Originally Posted by Triple Threat View Post
Stewart

Either you've got a future in fortune-telling or you jinxed me big-time, but you sure called that one.
I admire you for your enthusiasm, and your willingness to try all these new things, all of which would be taxing and tiresome to a 21 year old, let alone someone at your age....sigh, I feel for you....

BUT:

like I keep telling you, you can still put up big numbers, just quit taking the fricken scenic route and just take the straight path! Do I need to take you under my wing Darth Threat? I would be willing to make a $$$ bet that your squat and bench numbers will improve the second you lower the volume of your workouts....In fact, I guarantee it....You might feel like you aren't doing enough compared to what you are accustomed to, but trust me, it will be like a breath of fresh air, and you can change your avatar back to a dancing banana, cause the PRs will be coming back....

I recommend the basic westside template to you, no more, no less....do you want me to whip one up for you real quick?



Posted by: Malley

I can relate to what Stew is saying, however before going into the next program that he "whips up", take a week off.



Posted by: fyredup1286

Nice BP man...dont get so down on urself bout it tho...u just gotta keep ur head up nd keep truckin...make sure ur gettin enough sleep too...that might b a problem...but hell...i dont know wut i m talkin bout so dont listen to me...



Posted by: Stewart20

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Originally Posted by Double D View Post
I can relate to what Stew is saying, however before going into the next program that he "whips up", take a week off.
Are you making fun of my program whipping up abilities?? Don't make me go all Darth Vader on your ass!



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Stewart20 View Post
I admire you for your enthusiasm, and your willingness to try all these new things, all of which would be taxing and tiresome to a 21 year old, let alone someone at your age....sigh, I feel for you....
I've always been adventurous, willing to try new things.


Quote:
BUT:

like I keep telling you, you can still put up big numbers, just quit taking the fricken scenic route and just take the straight path! Do I need to take you under my wing Darth Threat? I would be willing to make a $$$ bet that your squat and bench numbers will improve the second you lower the volume of your workouts....In fact, I guarantee it....You might feel like you aren't doing enough compared to what you are accustomed to, but trust me, it will be like a breath of fresh air, and you can change your avatar back to a dancing banana, cause the PRs will be coming back....

I recommend the basic westside template to you, no more, no less....do you want me to whip one up for you real quick?
I've done westside before. I've got quite a bit of info on it. Every so often I think I get stale with it. That's when I get tempted to try something new.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by fyredup1286 View Post
Nice BP man...dont get so down on urself bout it tho...u just gotta keep ur head up nd keep truckin...make sure ur gettin enough sleep too...that might b a problem...but hell...i dont know wut i m talkin bout so dont listen to me...
fyred

Sleep hasn't been a problem. In fact, in the past when I've started to approach overtraining, having trouble falling asleep is one of the first signs of trouble ahead. Except for staying up later than normal on Sunday night (football), my sleeping habits have been very consistent.



Posted by: Triple Threat

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Originally Posted by Stewart20 View Post
Are you making fun of my program whipping up abilities?? Don't make me go all Darth Vader on your ass!
Whip it! Whip it good.



Posted by: Pylon

Take a deloading week, see if it helps. Or you can try the Burner plan, which means driving past the gym on a regular basis, but rarely stopping.



Posted by: fyredup1286

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Originally Posted by Triple Threat View Post
fyred

Sleep hasn't been a problem. In fact, in the past when I've started to approach overtraining, having trouble falling asleep is one of the first signs of trouble ahead. Except for staying up later than normal on Sunday night (football), my sleeping habits have been very consistent.
Good to hear Trips...haha...yea...like i said...you shouldnt listen to me...haha...cus i dont know wut im talking about.



Posted by: Archangel

Agree with Brother Pylon, Still strong my Friend!!! Take a slight break and come back and you'll be Better, you can rebuild it, LOL!!!



Posted by: Burner02

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Originally Posted by Pylon View Post
Take a deloading week, see if it helps. Or you can try the Burner plan, which means driving past the gym on a regular basis, but rarely stopping.
who are you kidding? I'm not even driving by it...

oh...py...c'mere....I've got a lil' somthin' somethin' for ya....



Posted by: Burner02

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewart20 View Post
Are you making fun of my program whipping up abilities?? Don't make me go all Darth Vader on your ass!
the force is strong in this one...



Posted by: Malley

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewart20 View Post
Are you making fun of my program whipping up abilities?? Don't make me go all Darth Vader on your ass!
But its so easy to do.




Posted by: Archangel

HMmmmmmmmmmmm, ever think about HIT???



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pylon View Post
Take a deloading week, see if it helps. Or you can try the Burner plan, which means driving past the gym on a regular basis, but rarely stopping.
Pylon

Deloading it shall be, for the next week and a half. However, it will be deloading TT-style. The Burner plan doesn't really appeal to me.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by fyredup1286 View Post
Good to hear Trips...haha...yea...like i said...you shouldnt listen to me...haha...cus i dont know wut im talking about.

fyred

I listen to everyone. I may not agree with everyone, but if you're not at least willing to listen to other's opinions, you're just short-changing yourself.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
Agree with Brother Pylon, Still strong my Friend!!! Take a slight break and come back and you'll be Better, you can rebuild it, LOL!!!
HIT MAN

Yeah, Brother Pylon speaketh words of wisdom.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Fri, Jan 26

Speed Bench Press
135 x 3 (8 sets)

Incline BB Bench Press
135 x 8 (2 sets)

Close Grip Bench Press
135 x 8 (2 sets)

Triceps Extensions with Rope
5 plates x 8 (2 sets)

Hammer Strength Low Rows
90 x 8 (2 sets)

Hammer Strength High Rows
140 x 8 (2 sets)

WG Pulldowns
10 plates x 8 (2 sets)

BB Military Press
60 x 8 (2 sets)

NG Pulldowns
10 plates x 8 (2 sets)

Time: 33 minutes

BW: 234

Cardio
Elliptical machine – 15 minutes

I was half-tempted to try to continue the old program, but common sense took over on the drive to the gym. Everything was easy, far short of failure. I stopped at 8 reps, but could easily have done at least 12 on them.

It was 7 degrees out this morning, with a wind chill of about 15 below. I draw the line at single digits, so it was indoor cardio for me today. I’m sitting here feeling like I barely did anything, but I know it’s probably best for me in the long run.



Posted by: Stewart20

Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple Threat View Post
Fri, Jan 26

Speed Bench Press
135 x 3 (8 sets)

Incline BB Bench Press
135 x 8 (2 sets)

Close Grip Bench Press
135 x 8 (2 sets)

Triceps Extensions with Rope
5 plates x 8 (2 sets)

Hammer Strength Low Rows
90 x 8 (2 sets)

Hammer Strength High Rows
140 x 8 (2 sets)

WG Pulldowns
10 plates x 8 (2 sets)

BB Military Press
60 x 8 (2 sets)

NG Pulldowns
10 plates x 8 (2 sets)

Time: 33 minutes

BW: 234

Cardio
Elliptical machine – 15 minutes

I was half-tempted to try to continue the old program, but common sense took over on the drive to the gym. Everything was easy, far short of failure. I stopped at 8 reps, but could easily have done at least 12 on them.

It was 7 degrees out this morning, with a wind chill of about 15 below. I draw the line at single digits, so it was indoor cardio for me today. I’m sitting here feeling like I barely did anything, but I know it’s probably best for me in the long run.
while you are right that something like this is what your body needed, I have to say that IMO, a better "deload" would be to keep the weights high and just slash the volume drastically. As you said, you "feel like you did nothing", and with good reason, your sets were basically warm up sets for you.

Take a westside plan. On a "deload", take the ME exercise and turn it into DE, which you did which is good, then take your assistance exercises and continue with the weight progression, but only do half the volume. So say you would do 3 sets of floor presses after the ME lift, then do maybe 1 set. Say you do 4 sets of rows, do 2 sets. 4 sets of pullups? drop it to 2 and so on.

That way, you keep the strength levels up while at the same time giving yourself a break. Like I always say, to me, the 2 things that kill me the most are failure training and volume. If I eliminate those 2 things, I can still lift as heavy as I want, but still feel like a million bucks afterwards

Darth Stewart has spoken. Darth Threat......RISE



Posted by: fyredup1286

Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple Threat View Post
fyred

I listen to everyone. I may not agree with everyone, but if you're not at least willing to listen to other's opinions, you're just short-changing yourself.
u know wut...thats gunna b my new signiture...haha
u da man.



Posted by: Archangel

Good lookin de-load my Friend!!! I agree with what Darth 20 says myself, your doin right imo, givin the body time to relax and prepare for a future ONSLAUGHT!!!



Posted by: JerseyDevil

Hehehhehhehehehheheheh..... He said load.

Whaddup TT?



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewart20 View Post
while you are right that something like this is what your body needed, I have to say that IMO, a better "deload" would be to keep the weights high and just slash the volume drastically. As you said, you "feel like you did nothing", and with good reason, your sets were basically warm up sets for you.

Take a westside plan. On a "deload", take the ME exercise and turn it into DE, which you did which is good, then take your assistance exercises and continue with the weight progression, but only do half the volume. So say you would do 3 sets of floor presses after the ME lift, then do maybe 1 set. Say you do 4 sets of rows, do 2 sets. 4 sets of pullups? drop it to 2 and so on.

That way, you keep the strength levels up while at the same time giving yourself a break. Like I always say, to me, the 2 things that kill me the most are failure training and volume. If I eliminate those 2 things, I can still lift as heavy as I want, but still feel like a million bucks afterwards

Darth Stewart has spoken. Darth Threat......RISE
Darth

I'll think about it for next week.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
Good lookin de-load my Friend!!! I agree with what Darth 20 says myself, your doin right imo, givin the body time to relax and prepare for a future ONSLAUGHT!!!
Arch

It seems to be working. It's Sunday night and I can't wait to get back to the gym.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by fyredup1286 View Post
u know wut...thats gunna b my new signiture...haha
u da man.
fyred



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by JerseyDevil View Post
Hehehhehhehehehheheheh..... He said load.

Whaddup TT?
JD

Good to see you back in these parts. You missed my torture training and got back just in time to see me crash.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Sat, Jan 27

Paused Squats
135 x 5
185 x 2 (5 sets)

Front Squats
95 x 5 (2 sets)

Speed Deadlifts
275 x 2 (4 sets)

SLDL
185 x 6 (2 sets)

Time: 26 minutes



Posted by: Malley

I am doing front squats tommorow, my numbers will be around yours I am sure. God I am horrible at those. I would much rather do Zercher squats!



Posted by: Triple Threat

Front squats don't feel natural for me. I thinks it's a question of balance. On a side note, I tried to do an overhead squat as a warm-up, and couldn't even get one. It kept feeling like I was going to tip over.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Mon, Jan 29 ME Bench

Bench Press off pins
135 x 6 (warm-up, touch and go)
135 x 3
165 x 3
185 x 3
205 x 3
225 x 3
235 x 3
245 x 3
255 x 3

Close Grip Bench
225 x 4 (3 sets)

Dips
40 x 5
40 x 4

Pendlay Rows
185 x 8
205 x 7
205 x 6

Pull-ups
BW+12 x 4
BW+12 x 3

BB Military Press
115 x 7
115 x 5

Chin-ups
BW x 5
BW x 4

Saxon side bends (BB)
20 x 10 (2 sets)

Hanging Leg Raise
12
8

Time: 63 minutes

Cardio
.25 mi jog
50 yd sprint x 8



Posted by: DOMS

I added up all the weight you benched, it comes to 2.88 net tons.



Posted by: Malley

Its just because Trips is a massive beast!



Posted by: fyredup1286

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Its just because Trips is a massive beast!
Amen Brother!



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple Threat View Post
Front squats don't feel natural for me. I thinks it's a question of balance. On a side note, I tried to do an overhead squat as a warm-up, and couldn't even get one. It kept feeling like I was going to tip over.
Don't worry, I still respect you.

I think Overhead Squats are a very underrated exercise. Then again, I'm a squat junkie.



Posted by: Bakerboy

You the man TT... Very nice!



Posted by: Burner02

was'sup, trips!
wow...2+ tons of iron moved...you ANIMAL!



Posted by: Archangel

EXCELLENT w/o's Brother Triple, keep it up my Friend!!!



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
I added up all the weight you benched, it comes to 2.88 net tons.
Is that good or bad?



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Its just because Trips is a massive beast!
I wish!



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by fyredup1286 View Post
Amen Brother!
Thanks. See above.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Don't worry, I still respect you.

I think Overhead Squats are a very underrated exercise. Then again, I'm a squat junkie.
I'm going to have to work on them. I felt quite uncoordinated trying them.

And you'd better respect me. Weren't you taught to respect your elders?



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakerboy View Post
You the man TT... Very nice!
Bakerboy

Thanks and welcome to my journal.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner02 View Post
was'sup, trips!
wow...2+ tons of iron moved...you ANIMAL!
Burner

Feel free to join in.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
EXCELLENT w/o's Brother Triple, keep it up my Friend!!!
Thanks, Arch. That's what my girlfriends used to say.



Posted by: Archangel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple Threat View Post
Thanks, Arch. That's what my girlfriends used to say.




Posted by: Triple Threat

Wed, Jan 31 ME Squat/DL

Squats
135 x 6
185 x 3
225 x 3
275 x 3
295 x 1
315 x 1

Deadlifts
225 x 1
315 x 1
405 x 1
475 x 1

Good Mornings
135 x 6
165 x 6
185 x 6 (2 sets)

Overhead Squats
20 x 8
30 x 8
35 x 6
35 x 4

Heels want to come up as I near the bottom. When back squatting, I tend to lean forward to compensate for this. If I were to lean forward doing an overhead squat, I’d fall on my face. So it looks like I’ve some flexibility to work on.

Bulgarian Squats Reps are per leg. Weight is total for both dumbbells.
0 x 6
24 x 6
30 x 4

Ab Crunch Machine
45 x 12
90 x 12
135 x 8
150 x 6 (2 sets)

Saxon side bends (BB)
20 x 8 (2 sets)

Time: 66 minutes

BW: 232. I was eating quite a bit when doing the torture training and peaked at 235. It’s time to shed some of the excess.

Cardio
.25 mi jog
50 yd sprint x 10



Posted by: DOMS

Great workout, TT!

Don't you just dig Overhead Squats? There's no cheating on those.



Posted by: Bakerboy

Wow, you don't mess around! Nice job TT.



Posted by: Malley

OH Squats are very ver tough. I have a hard time doing them just with the bar. I dont know if I will continue to do those or not. My balance simply sucks!



Posted by: Archangel

FANTASTIC w/o Brother Triple!!! Where do you place the bar on your back??? I used to feel like that until I dropped the bar down to my middle/lower traps, hope that made sense?!?



Posted by: boilermaker

Trips has it going on in here (did your gf's used to say that too)



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Great workout, TT!

Don't you just dig Overhead Squats? There's no cheating on those.
DOMS

This was the first time I've done overhead squats, so I'm not sure if I like them or not yet. When I tried them at home, all I had was a wooden closet rod (too light) and an olympic bar (45 lb, too heavy). Being able to use the 20 and 30 lb barbells at the gym at least let me get several reps and get the feel for them.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakerboy View Post
Wow, you don't mess around! Nice job TT.
Bakerboy

Thanks. If I'm going to put in the effort, I may as well make it worthwhile.



Posted by: Malley

Dont OH Squats suck?!?! I saw a guy on that softballfans site and he said he uses 200lbs on em. Wow I highly fuckin doubt it.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
OH Squats are very ver tough. I have a hard time doing them just with the bar. I dont know if I will continue to do those or not. My balance simply sucks!
DD

Like I said earlier, the full olympic bar was too heavy and form went to hell, but the wooden pole did not provide enough resistance. Try doing them with 20-25 barbell and see if that helps. Also, I did a couple of sets just holding my arms up and keeping my hands in contact with a power rack for balance. That helped me get a feeling of what the movement would be like.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
FANTASTIC w/o Brother Triple!!! Where do you place the bar on your back??? I used to feel like that until I dropped the bar down to my middle/lower traps, hope that made sense?!?
HIT MAN

I tend to keep the bar lower on my back, too. I think I have a permanent indentation where the bar goes.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by boilermaker View Post
Trips has it going on in here (did your gf's used to say that too)
boiler

That line I didn't hear.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Dont OH Squats suck?!?! I saw a guy on that softballfans site and he said he uses 200lbs on em. Wow I highly fuckin doubt it.
I haven't been on that site in a while. I need to get back there one of these days. 200 lbs for OH squats? Hey, on the internet everyone is an elite athlete.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Fri, Feb 2 DE Upper

All DB pressing movements were done alternating arms.

Incline DB Press supersetted with DB rows
40 x 8
60 x 8
70 x 7
70 x 6

DB Rows
40 x 8
60 x 8
70 x 8
80 x 8

Flat DB Press supersetted with HS Low rows
70 x 7
70 x 6
70 x 6

HS Low rows
140 x 8
160 x 8
160 x 7

DB Standing Shoulder Press supersetted with pull-ups
30 x 8
35 x 8
40 x 6

Pull-ups
BW x 6
BW x 5
BW x 4

Dips supersetted with chin-ups
BW+25 x 6
BW+25 x 5
BW x 8

Chin-ups
BW x 4
BW x 4
BW x 3

Time: 43 minutes

BW: 233

Cardio in a blizzard
.25 jog
50 yd sprints x 10

OK, so maybe blizzard is a little strong. But it was snowing and the ground was covered, but not much more. There’s something very peaceful about running in the snow.



Posted by: DOMS

Blizzard or not, running in sub-zero temperatures is very brutal. Great job on that and on the workout!



Posted by: Brutus_G

Wow TT your deadlift and squat diffrence is huge.



Posted by: Burner02

I just lost my train of thoght...thanks, Brutus....



Posted by: Brutus_G

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner02 View Post
I just lost my train of thoght...thanks, Brutus....
You lost it 43 minutes ago?



Posted by: Burner02

I...dam...did it again.....dam u and your hottie avatar!



Posted by: Malley

Fuck dude sprinting in the snow is pretty hardcore if you ask me.



Posted by: Gazhole

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Fuck dude sprinting in the snow is pretty hardcore if you ask me.
As long as he's careful not to hit a patch of ice.

If anything can break your concentration, it's that.

Looking good though, TT!



Posted by: Archangel

Excellent w/o, LOVE the supersets too Brother Triple, Awesome routine my Friend!!!



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Blizzard or not, running in sub-zero temperatures is very brutal. Great job on that and on the workout!
DOMS

Thanks, DOMS. Temperature was about 30 degrees, within my comfort zone. Plus having just worked out, I was warmed up and comfortable.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
Wow TT your deadlift and squat diffrence is huge.
Brutus

Tell me about it. It's quite frustrating at times.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Fuck dude sprinting in the snow is pretty hardcore if you ask me.
Double D

It probably looked a little silly.

You wouldn't believe what I saw this morning, Martha. Some guy in shorts, ski hat, and no gloves swinging a baseball bat. Then he went running back and forth on the field.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
As long as he's careful not to hit a patch of ice.

If anything can break your concentration, it's that.

Looking good though, TT!
Gaz

It was safe since there was no ice. It had snowed just enough to cover the ground. Falling down in that would not have been pleasant, though.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote: