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Posted by: Hlanderr

Hey,
I have a small problem right now in my diet, where I don't have a night time casein product...

I'm in college, and I don't have a lot of money.
Mainly what I have been doing is taking my 100% whey, and eating whatever food I have left from the dining hall.... but pieces of chicken probably won't help this problem... the only other thing I have right now is a lot of peanut butter.... should I throw down a couple servings of that before bed?

I can't get cottage cheese due to the fact that I don't have a refridgerator, and I don't have enough money to buy another tub of protein at this time...

Is there any foods that I'm missing that's good to have at night? Something solid...

thanks



Posted by: boilermaker

It's not solid, but you could get yourself some uht shelf stable milk as a casein source.



Posted by: garethhe

the PB would slow down digestion...in terms of that, it's definitely better than nothing.

i also add PB, as well as wheat germ and flaxseed meal (i got both in bags from the supermarket), to my nighttime shake, for the same reason.



Posted by: Hlanderr

thanks for the replys

what kind of milk is that? shelf stable? no refridgerator? id definetly be into that.... where can i get it!? also how come its shelf stable... is it like chemically altered? should we be calling it.... shelk or something


and i will definetly keep using the peanut butter then too

thanks



Posted by: overthepond

don't buy the shelf stable milk, it tastes like shit. worse than shit....not to mention room temperature milk just goes against nature.



Posted by: Emma-Leigh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hlanderr
thanks for the replys

what kind of milk is that? shelf stable? no refridgerator? id definetly be into that.... where can i get it!? also how come its shelf stable... is it like chemically altered? should we be calling it.... shelk or something


and i will definetly keep using the peanut butter then too

thanks
Also called 'long-life milk' or 'UHT milk' such as this product.
In Aust it is just milk you can usually buy off a supermarket shelf - very easy to find... But if you could not find it you could also use dry milk if you wanted.

Other solid foods could be things like beef jerky or other jerky meats (easy stored in a room) or cans of meat/chicken/tuna/salmon. Having these with a few nuts would be fine.


If you are really crazy, you could look into military/emergency type supplies:
http://www.usaemergencysupply.com/in...aboutdairy.htm
http://www.aa-foods.com/longterm.cfm
http://www.frontiersurvival.net/cat-...ucts--381.html

Mmmm.... cheese in a can... ... Or, why bother with 6 or 7 meals when you can just eat the 3600 calorie bar


Geezz... the stuff you find on the internet!



Posted by: boilermaker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hlanderr
thanks for the replys

what kind of milk is that? shelf stable? no refridgerator? id definetly be into that.... where can i get it!? also how come its shelf stable... is it like chemically altered? should we be calling it.... shelk or something


and i will definetly keep using the peanut butter then too

thanks
UHT milk is the same milk as you drink out of your refridgerator every day. The difference is that in the pasteurization process the milk is raised to a higher temperature and held there for a longer period of time than the milk you are used to drinking. The milk is then cooled under pressure and the cardboard package is filled on an aeseptic filling machine. Thus, 100% of the pathogens that cause spoilage are killed in the uht process and the milk is never exposesd to oxygen until you open it. There are no chemicals added.

Note: Only buy it in the serving size you are going to consume because once the package is opened, it has the same properties as regular milk (because that is what it is).



Posted by: FishOrCutBait

www.allthewhey.com makes a tasty micellar casein product. micellar casein is better than calcium caseinate, IMO



Posted by: dougnukem

Quote:
Originally Posted by overthepond
don't buy the shelf stable milk, it tastes like shit. worse than shit....not to mention room temperature milk just goes against nature.
It's not that bad. sheesh. That's all we drink over here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by boilermaker
UHT milk is the same milk as you drink out of your refridgerator every day. The difference is that in the pasteurization process the milk is raised to a higher temperature and held there for a longer period of time than the milk you are used to drinking. The milk is then cooled under pressure and the cardboard package is filled on an aeseptic filling machine. Thus, 100% of the pathogens that cause spoilage are killed in the uht process and the milk is never exposesd to oxygen until you open it. There are no chemicals added.

Note: Only buy it in the serving size you are going to consume because once the package is opened, it has the same properties as regular milk (because that is what it is).
Sounds about right to me. The stuff is pretty good after awhile. I mean, were half the supplements you've taken tasty and delicious? Probably not, but you got used to the taste and it became more and more tolerable. Same applies with this type of milk. I've been drinking it for almost 4 months, and it tastes fine to me.



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Posted by: boilermaker

Quote:
Originally Posted by dougnukem
It's not that bad. sheesh. That's all we drink over here.



Sounds about right to me. The stuff is pretty good after awhile. I mean, were half the supplements you've taken tasty and delicious? Probably not, but you got used to the taste and it became more and more tolerable. Same applies with this type of milk. I've been drinking it for almost 4 months, and it tastes fine to me.
Hey Nuke, does it have a little bit of a burnt flavor. I've heard that, and it would make since since it is held at a higher temp for 3 seconds compared to a short time process for normal fluid milk. I've never had it, myself but I've seen it made at a couple of dairys that I've done work for.

If the room temp. thing bothered him, he could always get a cup of ice and chill it.



Posted by: dougnukem

Quote:
Originally Posted by boilermaker
Hey Nuke, does it have a little bit of a burnt flavor. I've heard that, and it would make since since it is held at a higher temp for 3 seconds compared to a short time process for normal fluid milk. I've never had it, myself but I've seen it made at a couple of dairys that I've done work for.

If the room temp. thing bothered him, he could always get a cup of ice and chill it.
Haven't noticed any burnt flavor. Just a bit more bland then your typical chilled milk.



Posted by: Hlanderr

word.... i think ill try that...

taste hasnt ever really been an issue with this stuff.... id be having one or two glasses of milk at night for the casein... thanks



Posted by: wheystation

Sweet pea - drop me a line at wheystation@aol.com and I will send you some samples of both the Calcium AND Micellar.

Laura
www.allthewhey.com



Posted by: garethhe

would added fiber serve to slow down protein digestion in a whey shake, or is it only fats that do?



Posted by: dougnukem

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hlanderr
word.... i think ill try that...

taste hasnt ever really been an issue with this stuff.... id be having one or two glasses of milk at night for the casein... thanks
No problem. I would never recommend something I can't tolerate myself.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wheystation
Sweet pea - drop me a line at wheystation@aol.com and I will send you some samples of both the Calcium AND Micellar.

Laura
www.allthewhey.com
And see, now you get some free stuff. So double bonus, Hlanderr!



Posted by: Emma-Leigh

Quote:
Originally Posted by garethhe
would added fiber serve to slow down protein digestion in a whey shake, or is it only fats that do?
Yes - fibre will decrease speed of absorption (nearly anything you add will)... Also, having any type of food in your intestines from your previous meals (anything up to 6-8 hrs prior) will have an impact too.

Remember - If you add fats, you have to make sure the fats are mixed well with the protein powder in order for the digestion to be delayed... Read this thread for more information.



Posted by: FishOrCutBait

allthewhey is good people, they've never done me wrong. I like all their stuff. Top 3 favs, in order

1. Whey Protein Isolate
2. Micellar Casein
3. Milk Protein Isolate (THE ONLY COMPANY IVE EVER SEEN THAT SELLS STRAIGHT MPI!!!)

Fav. flavors
1. Chocolate mint
2. Orange
3. Pineapple was, interesting...



Posted by: BigDyl

Quote:
Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait
allthewhey is good people, they've never done me wrong. I like all their stuff. Top 3 favs, in order

1. Whey Protein Isolate
2. Micellar Casein
3. Milk Protein Isolate (THE ONLY COMPANY IVE EVER SEEN THAT SELLS STRAIGHT MPI!!!)

Fav. flavors
1. Chocolate mint
2. Orange
3. Pineapple was, interesting...
I've tried there Micellar Casien and it's good. However, I like Biotests Low Carb GROW! with micellar casien. I think its tri-sourced with milk protien isolate and whey.



Posted by: thajeepster

yeah, you may want to go with MPI, its cheaper and does the job just as well as casein. I believe MPI is 80% casein and 20% whey. I get mine from protein factory, however i get a blend with MPI, egg, and caseinate. Banana is awesome, and vanilla aint so bad either.



Posted by: Hlanderr

holla



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