Originally Posted by Triple Threat

Is this for you on cycle?

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

No, its off cycle

Originally Posted by Steele20

I don't like it... Seems short

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

so change it

Originally Posted by Steele20

I don't like it... Seems short

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

New workout???

Hi people, i have question.,let``s see
if i`´m doing a jajajaj my force increase,
so that should i make my work out with all the potency?
thanks alot

1. Monday
Bench press 4x6
Incline Db press 4x12
Cgbp 4x6
cable flys 2x10

2 mile run

2. Tuesday
Db rows 4x6
Pullups 4x10
cgpd 3x8
rear delts 2x12

Hammer curls 2x6
Db curls 2x10

3. Wednesday
3 mile run..ABBS

4. Thursday

1 mile run

5. Friday
Bench press 1x max with 225
Barbell press 4x6
laterals 3x10
upright rows 3x10
shrugs 3x8


6. Saturday
Squats 2x8
thigh ext 2x12
SLDL 4x10
hamstring curls 2x8
calf raises standing 3x12

7. Sunday
off

Originally Posted by Steele20

I don't like it... Seems short

Originally Posted by BigDyl

Seriously though, would these 2 mile runs after a workout not put you in a super catabolic state which anihilates muscle?

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I have two suggestions to limit the catabolic effects of doing this:

Immediately after finishing lifting, or just prior to finishing, ingest a scoop of whey in water to prevent muscle breakdown during the jog to come. If you are maintaining or bulking, then I would suggest throwing a small amount of carbohydrates into the drink as well.

Make it a low intensity jog or even convert it to powerwalking. High intensity exercise in a catabolic state is much riskier for muscle mass.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

He's doing 2 7-8 minute miles. That is hardly jogging. That is a run pace.

Eating a scoop of whey and then running after I lift would make me .

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

As long as the runs are less than 20-30 minutes you are not going to go too terribly catabolic. Adding a carb drink between would certainly be a good idea. I figure I burn between 300-500cals running at a good pace for 20-30 minutes. If you ingest 200cals of carbs between I would imagine you would be fine. Your body won't go catabolic in 20 minutes, the carbs are just to be safe.

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

Since when does how long you're in the gym impact your gains?

Originally Posted by Steele20

Anything I say is going to be argued against here, so there is no point is explaining my point. Ill just keep to myself.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I don't see where he said that... Even so, consuming some protein and carbs shortly before finishing the lifting session in liquid form should all but eliminate the need for your body to breakdown muscle tissue and subject the resultant amino acids to gluconeogenesis.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I have two suggestions to limit the catabolic effects of doing this:

Immediately after finishing lifting, or just prior to finishing, ingest a scoop of whey in water to prevent muscle breakdown during the jog to come. If you are maintaining or bulking, then I would suggest throwing a small amount of carbohydrates into the drink as well.

Make it a low intensity jog or even convert it to powerwalking. High intensity exercise in a catabolic state is much riskier for muscle mass.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

If I lift in the AM then run at night ( say 10 hours later) would that be better if my goals are to continue to grow and build up my cardio system?