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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
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January 18, 1984 Age: 21 is it Jan 18 allready  Ya I'm lazy now, burned out from post whoring.. |
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Originally Posted by poeticomedy
I'm thinking of doing this for 10 weeks
Week Finaaplix/Parabolan--------Primobolan 1----------------------------300-400 mg/week 2----------------------------300-400 mg/week 3 75-76 mg every other day--- 300-400 mg/week 4 75-76 mg every other day ---300-400 mg/week 8 75-76 mg every other day--- 300-400 mg/week 6 75-76 mg every other day ---300-400 mg/week 7 75-76 mg every other day ---300-400 mg/week 8 75-76 mg every other day ---300-400 mg/week 9 75-76 mg every other day ---300-400 mg/week 10 75-76 mg every other day ---300-400 mg/week Has anyone ever done this cycle before? What can I expect of it? My friend pointed me to this program. I'm an actor and need to bulk up only slightly and get cut. Think Ryan Reynolds. I'm currently 6'0 and 165, looking to get up to 175-180 area. I have a fairly defined stomach at the moment 30" waist and very large arms for someone my size, however, with all the hours upon hours i've put in, I still cannot get my chest, nor shoulders to develop and have that definition I'm looking for. So any help/advice/ personal experiences would be most beneficial. If you have any other suggestions etc... etc.... please do not hesitate to let me know. Thanks. |
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Originally Posted by poeticomedy
I'm thinking of doing this for 10 weeks
Week Finaaplix/Parabolan--------Primobolan 1----------------------------300-400 mg/week 2----------------------------300-400 mg/week 3 75-76 mg every other day--- 300-400 mg/week 4 75-76 mg every other day ---300-400 mg/week 8 75-76 mg every other day--- 300-400 mg/week 6 75-76 mg every other day ---300-400 mg/week 7 75-76 mg every other day ---300-400 mg/week 8 75-76 mg every other day ---300-400 mg/week 9 75-76 mg every other day ---300-400 mg/week 10 75-76 mg every other day ---300-400 mg/week Has anyone ever done this cycle before? What can I expect of it? My friend pointed me to this program. I'm an actor and need to bulk up only slightly and get cut. Think Ryan Reynolds. I'm currently 6'0 and 165, looking to get up to 175-180 area. I have a fairly defined stomach at the moment 30" waist and very large arms for someone my size, however, with all the hours upon hours i've put in, I still cannot get my chest, nor shoulders to develop and have that definition I'm looking for. So any help/advice/ personal experiences would be most beneficial. If you have any other suggestions etc... etc.... please do not hesitate to let me know. Thanks. |
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Originally Posted by poeticomedy
Ok, the cycle is shit, now i'm getting somewhere. I got something out of you, good times. And my friend, I have logged the hours in the gym, and on the pavement. Unfortunately my definition has not gotten to where I need it to be. I was recently passed over for a fairly large role for not being "cut" enough. I realize compared to most of you I'm quite small, and my goals are not in line with yours, however, my agency has given me 3 months to bulk up. If I had time to spend four hours at the gym 5 times a week it would be no problem, but alas, I have too many other projects going on and can really only commit an hour per day to the workout. So if anyone has anything else to say it would be appreciated. The "world" i'm a part of is more superficially demanding then I'd like, but I am a part of it and I need some help.
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Originally Posted by poeticomedy
I'm currently in negotiations to publish 2 books, one of which is only an idea at the moment, as well I've been asked to write a sitcom pilot for a network. As well, I'm writing and recording an album with a friend. A lot of nights I go out and perform stand up and have to meet people afterwards. Honestly if you know a way I can do all of those things in 3 hours, please tell me, because I'd love to know. Conversely, Mr. Foreman if you breed high horses, my friend is in the market for one around 18 hands, so if you'd like to make some money, let me know. And actually, I know a fair amount about steroids, however, I came here to find out which would be the best combination for my particular results I'm looking to get based upon some peoples experiences. I apologize for being rude, but I've read this forum for the better part of 2 weeks and your lack of tact and general negative tone has rubbed me the wrong way. I'm glad as a 14 year old boy you were the size I am now. I hope when I grow up like you, I have nothing better to do than post on a message board. you twit.
To Pirate: trust me I wish I could afford one of those trainers, I just bought a condo and trying to afford anything like that is a little rough. And if you think a lot of those actors don't use roids while bulking up, I'll have to disagree. Not all of them do, but there is a large section. The thing about a lot of those trainers is they're able to keep all the gains on after a cycle, which is hard to do. My main problem is it's difficult for me to put on weight and for whatever reason, definition is not coming in. My body is just not responding they way most peoples do, and to counter that my best friend is on the other extreme. He eats mcdonalds four times a day and is more defined than about 99.999% of the population. His cholesterol is shit, but he's got the body of a greek god. I've confused more than a handful of trainers as to why I'm not getting results. I'm nearing the end of options. I'm 22 and have been working out consistently for the past 4 years. Went from 185 at about 19% body fat down to what I am now which is actually 168 with 10% body fat. If I up my calories, which I've done before, it has no effect whatsoever. I spent four weeks eating about 5000 calories per day and put on about 1.5 pounds and didn't feel all that great doing it. I don't have the option of not running because I have to stay defined. This situation is not pleasent. My diet is generally 8 egg whites and one full egg for breakfast with some wheat toast. About 2 hours later I down a protein shake generally between 40 and 60 grams of protein depending upon how my stomach is feeling at the time. For lunch it's either chicken or steak with veggies. 2 hours after that it's usually a 20 gram protein bar or shake and for dinner it's either fish, chicken or steak with more veggies. Fruit is munched on throughout the day. Sundays I usually just eat whatever I feel like, and I'm pretty sure one day of binging is not the problem. as far as the workout goes.... Sundays-rest Monday-Chest Tuesday-Back and shoulders Wednesday-Legs Thursday-Rest Friday-Arms Saturday-Legs Usually it's an hour long workout now with a different routine every other week, so listing the excercises I do is a little silly. My workouts are very focused, I don't talk to anyone at the gym. And the exercises have all been culled from the trainers I've worked with. I do anywhere between 30 and 60 minutes of cardio four times a week and finish each workout with 100 pushups. Honestly, if someone has a supplement other than steroids, I'm all ears. Creatine doesn't work for me, NO2 worked once but not anymore. I use glutamine after workouts and the only thing I haven't really tried that some have told me works is HMB. For me, steroids is the easy option here, but like I said if anyone knows a miracle combo of supplements, I'm much more keen to do that. |
please list your woukout in detail.
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Originally Posted by poeticomedy
If I wanted to brag I'd tell you how much money I made from this stuff. I was giving you the reasons why it's difficult for me to workout. My ex-gf lived next to a rocket scientist for NASA... when he told me that, I didn't feel like he was bragging. In fact I felt quite inadequate. I apologize for being creative and accomplishing shit with my life. And trust me, the record i'm recording isn't going to sniff the top 200 of billboard, it's just something fun to do. My will and want to argue with you is at zero and if this board is like others, you are now on my ignore list. If anyone has something constructive to add to this, the help is very appreciated.
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Originally Posted by poeticomedy
My diet is generally 8 egg whites and one full egg for breakfast with some wheat toast. About 2 hours later I down a protein shake generally between 40 and 60 grams of protein depending upon how my stomach is feeling at the time. For lunch it's either chicken or steak with veggies. 2 hours after that it's usually a 20 gram protein bar or shake and for dinner it's either fish, chicken or steak with more veggies. Fruit is munched on throughout the day. Sundays I usually just eat whatever I feel like, and I'm pretty sure one day of binging is not the problem.
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Originally Posted by Stu
you're not eating nearly enough! you need at least 6 meals a day and no a protien shake and a protien bar do not count as meals.
Seriously you have no idea what your getting yourself into, you have no need for steroids or even supplements go and start reading in the training and diet sections. STEROIDS CANNOT IMPROVE A BAD DIET AND A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE |
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Originally Posted by poeticomedy
Stu, if you read slightly above that you'd see there was a time i was eating more than I am now. However, doing that made me feel quite lethargic throughout the course of the day. Besides downing fruit, I usually eat a PB sandwich, or some oatmeal or something small like that a couple times to keep my metabolism going. Like I said, my goal is not to get massive and huge, it's to put on a 10-15 pounds quickly and get more defined.
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Here are some of the primary reasons most trainees don’t grow: 1. You overtrain and under eat. These are listed as the main primary reason because they go hand in hand and BOTH must be balanced or you can forget growth. The most perfect training regimen will fail miserably if diet is not there to support it. And conversely, the most perfect diet will be wasted if the trainee is doing more workload than they can recover from—most do WAY too much! 2. The training workload is not varied. Doing the exact same lift the same way stops being productive for most trainees within 3-6 weeks. Once the body has adapted to the loading it must be changed if you are to continue to force the body to adapt. 3. Too much focus on isolation exercises, not enough compound work. You can do all the “small” lifts until you are blue in the face, but until you are moving big poundage’s in the big lifts you will remain small. Which brings up point #4. 4. You MUST squat and deadlift if you are going to reach your bodies growth potential. Think it through. Doing squats or deads activates 70-85% of the bodies overall musculature in one move. Doing a set of curls maybe 3-5%. Which sends a big signal that the body better get better at synthesizing protein and better at handling the need to grow as a unit? You will NEVER reach your potential without doing the squats and deads. 5. You constantly fluctuate between lifts that have bad carry-over. Here is an example I have seen many times, and one I have done myself. The trainee burns out on benching and decides to do Hammer Strength Benches for a change. He makes the switch and is jazzed. His Hammer press is going up every week and he is stoked. After a time he has added 50 lbs to his Hammer bench and decides to go back and hit the bench, only to find it’s up a whole 10 lbs!!!!! That doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with Hammer Benches. It just means that the lifts are dissimilar enough that an increase in one may not necessarily help increase the lift on another. Use of stabilizers and inter and intra-muscular coordination are two primary reasons, along with neural recruitment pattern gains that don’t apply well to the other lift. 6. You don’t know when to de-load/cruise, or take time off. NO ONES body takes a constant pounding of hard training without periods of active or full rest recovery. Until you learn how and when to don this your training will never be optimal 7. Your micro-nutrient support SUCKS! I can’t count the number of guys I have seen trying to build great physiques taking a “one a day” vitamin and thinking they have it covered. If you want great things out of your body, you need to put great fuel in it. 8. You train with the intensity of a arthritic old lady. Nuff said. 9. You have no clearly defined goals. Most people just “lift to get bigger”, and while this is a fine goal, not having and strength related goals will kill your progress in the long run. Your primary goal should be getting stronger on the big lifts on a CONSTANT basis. Setting short and long-term strength goals and achieving them is what equals a big strong trainee in the long run. 10. You are inconsistent. Getting excited about your training and killing yourself in the gym only to burn out and few weeks later and miss a bunch of sessions ends up being 1 step forward, 3/4 steps backward for many trainees. Getting and staying consistent and racking up sustainable gains over the long-term is what it’s about. Iron Addict http://www.worldclassbodybuilding.co...ad.php?t=19346 |
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Originally Posted by Mudge
Without food, drugs does not make you gain weight out of nowhere, unless you are an AIDS patient who is overcoming a problem via the drugs. It takes protein to build muscle tissue and it takes calories to metabolically support weight gain.
Drugs wont beat the laws of science, you have to follow them. If you are in the gym for an hour, doing for example just chest, you are spending far far too long. |
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Originally Posted by PWGriffin
I spend about 45 minutes to an hour on chest, this is too much??
Flat Press 3 sets, 1 negative set Incline 3 sets Decline 3 sets Hammer press 3 sets cable crossovers 3 sets pullovers 3 sets. |
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Originally Posted by PWGriffin
I spend about 45 minutes to an hour on chest, this is too much??
Flat Press 3 sets, 1 negative set Incline 3 sets Decline 3 sets Hammer press 3 sets cable crossovers 3 sets pullovers 3 sets. |
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Originally Posted by PWGriffin
I spend about 45 minutes to an hour on chest, this is too much??
Flat Press 3 sets, 1 negative set Incline 3 sets Decline 3 sets Hammer press 3 sets cable crossovers 3 sets pullovers 3 sets. |
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Originally Posted by Stu
at a glance i would say thats way to much, but it depends on what intensity you are using
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Originally Posted by brogers
I really think you need to examine your training routine. What is your goal for this, and what do you think you are accomplishing by doing so much.. ? I would do 1/6 of what you are doing, but I train very intensely and to failure always.
Tough you are a DC'er too still right? I've made twice the amount of gains with his training than I had on any other type of training. |
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
I think both of you are wacked....3 sets once a week VS 18.....Both suck IMO
8-10 sets would be better IMO |
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Originally Posted by Lifting4life
pwgriffin I actually do as much if not more sets as you on chest and have seen great results. Well if its workin for you then ill say its good and if its not then you better change your workout. Well i hit my chest once a week and do more sets then you but when I do them ill do them to failure and I dont consider this overtraining because my body can handle it now, not before. So as long as its workin and your seen results ill say keep on.
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Originally Posted by PWGriffin
So maybe 3 exercises @ 3 sets a piece?? Maybe keep flat bench since every week and alternate with the other two exercises? Man I've always trained with more than 9 or 10 sets on chest...always between 12 and 15...maybe that's my problem, I'm open to advice. Just be specific...
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Every one is slightly different , but not that different . If not on roids and 25+ then 8-10 sests once a week is enough to get big and strong......you can do a second workout that week for chest if you like but 3-4 sets and higher reps.
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Originally Posted by PWGriffin
Well I'm about 22 and am on the juice...just finished my last cycle. I'm suprised you didn't know how old I was foreman, I thought u checked everyone's DOB...ur slippin.
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Date of Birth:
January 18, 1984 Age: 21 is it Jan 18 allready Ya I'm lazy now, burned out from post whoring.. |
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Originally Posted by PWGriffin
I said ABOUT 22 heh...I'm less than a month away foo. I would say I'm closer to 22 than 21.
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Originally Posted by pengers84
.whats a DC'er?
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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Dog crap training, PM Tough and he will give you the site.....it's like 1 billion pages so get ready.
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Originally Posted by pengers84
hopefully someone will be kind enough to summarise it for me for christmas
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Originally Posted by PWGriffin
To my knowledge....You basically drop an exercise and add a new one everytime you plateau...if you don't beat the logbook on say BB bench by at least one rep or more weight then you drop it and say add flat dumbell press, and so on and so forth.
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