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Peppermint Hot Chocolate for the Protein-Lover


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Posted by: GoalGetter

This weekend i was at Williams-Sonoma, spending a gift certificate that someone gave me (I ended up getting a new bundt pan). They had a huge dispenser for people to sample their Peppermint Hot Chocolate mix.

So I sampled.

And I loved.

And I wished that I could buy this mix and make this hot chocolate at home, but for one cup of this delectable concoction, prepared the way it was prepared at the store, the calorie count was well over 250. Not good.

For days now, I've been obsessing about this peppermint hot chocolate, and then decided to do something about it.

*for those of you who flip out with regards to heating protein powder, just skip this recipe. I don't want to give you a heart attack.

Here it is:

INGREDIENTS:
- 1 scoop of Isopure Zero Carb Chocolate Protein Powder (I like this because it mixes very quickly with water, using just a spoon, or in this case a whisk)

- 8-10 ounces of water, cold

- 2 packets of splenda

- 1/4 teaspoon of peppermint extract (I didn't get anything fancy, just the little McCormick bottle at the supermarket in the baking/spices section)

STEPS:

1. In a saucepan, OFF the stove, pour in your cold water.

2. Add the scoop of protein and the splenda, and whisk together until it is mixed -- it will look really thin.

3. Add the peppermint extract and whisk some more.

4. Set on the stove top and heat it up, only until it is HOT, whisking constantly. Don't let it boil.

5. Just test it with your finger to make sure it is hot and remove from the heat immediately, otherwise the protein will start to form a "coating" on the bottom of the saucepan, which you will notice on the whisk. There's no need for that. Hot is good. Chunky is not, unless the chunks are marshmallows, and well... that's all up to you

6. Pour into your favorite mug or other drinking container.

7. Sniff it... smell the lovely peppermint... and sip away to your heart's content.

Sure it isn't the same as the Williams-Sonoma mix. but damn... it is a nice substitute for those of us who just dont' want to squander away precious calories but still want a peppermint hot chocolate treat.



Posted by: NickB

Wouldn't an easier way be to simply nuke the water until hot, pour in the protein powder and peppermint, stir, and drink? Less chance of denaturing the protein powder this way, I'd think.



Posted by: GoalGetter

Quote:
Originally Posted by NickB
Wouldn't an easier way be to simply nuke the water until hot, pour in the protein powder and peppermint, stir, and drink? Less chance of denaturing the protein powder this way, I'd think.
It is still protein. you "denature" protein when you cook eggs or roast chicken. It doesn't mean that you will be drinking a whole heap of 0-value protein. Simply means its state has changed. Perhaps biological values like emma explained in another thread (search for it i'm in a hurry to go to work) such as cancer fighting, or anti aging properties or something like that are reduced or removed, but the protein is still protein.

That being said, it's one drink. your body isn't going to freak out over one serving of protein powder which has been heated up. some people are really watchful of never "denaturing" their protein powder, others not so much. I really don't care, personally and i cook with it, add it to hot oatmeal, put it in baking recipes, etc. it's not going to spontaneously combust in your gut.

If it's really a concern for you, just don't have it as a post-workout thing.

also, when you pour protein powder into hot water it clumps up or turns into little gelatinous chunks depending on what kind of protein you use. it's not like regular cocoa powder or something like that which would just dissolve smoothly.

If you want to try it go right ahead, but i already did and that was what happened to me, hence the boiling the water with the protein already in it.



Posted by: nikegurl

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoalGetter
*for those of you who flip out with regards to heating protein powder, just skip this recipe. I don't want to give you a heart attack.


GG - slightly off the point.....but how do you like the Isopure plain (mixed in water) better than most?

cool recipe by the way - thanks!



Posted by: GoalGetter

Quote:
Originally Posted by nikegurl


GG - slightly off the point.....but how do you like the Isopure plain (mixed in water) better than most?

cool recipe by the way - thanks!
You know? I like the flavor (more than the ATW chocolate whey blend or milk isolate -- richer chocolate flavor), BUT I don't like it much at all for its consistency. It is too thin unless you want to mix it with milk or yogurt (whcih I don't). Thankfully BECAUSE it is thin, i can use it in other things, like when i want to bake a chocolate protein something or other (pancakes, most recently). I just don't use it PWO.

As far as quality proteins go, I guess it serves its purpose.

And You're welcome! Glad you like the recipe!



Posted by: lioness

this sounds yummy!

i have the vanilla isopure. do you know of a modification to add some chocolate...without buying a tub of chocolate isopure?



Posted by: lioness

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoalGetter
It is still protein. you "denature" protein when you cook eggs or roast chicken. It doesn't mean that you will be drinking a whole heap of 0-value protein. Simply means its state has changed. Perhaps biological values like emma explained in another thread (search for it i'm in a hurry to go to work) such as cancer fighting, or anti aging properties or something like that are reduced or removed, but the protein is still protein.

That being said, it's one drink. your body isn't going to freak out over one serving of protein powder which has been heated up. some people are really watchful of never "denaturing" their protein powder, others not so much. I really don't care, personally and i cook with it, add it to hot oatmeal, put it in baking recipes, etc. it's not going to spontaneously combust in your gut.

If it's really a concern for you, just don't have it as a post-workout thing.

also, when you pour protein powder into hot water it clumps up or turns into little gelatinous chunks depending on what kind of protein you use. it's not like regular cocoa powder or something like that which would just dissolve smoothly.

If you want to try it go right ahead, but i already did and that was what happened to me, hence the boiling the water with the protein already in it.
good info for me. i've been wondering why some people (not here) freaked when i said i put protein powder in my oatmeal...



Posted by: GoalGetter

Quote:
Originally Posted by lioness
this sounds yummy!

i have the vanilla isopure. do you know of a modification to add some chocolate...without buying a tub of chocolate isopure?
Lioness...

two inexpensive options immediately come to mind:

1) some sugar free fat free chocolate pudding mix (I'd say about 1/4 of the small packet might do the trick

or

2) get yourself a small canister of dutch-processed cocoa powder. Cheapest is like Hersheys (their Special Dark version is better than their regular version), and others that are even better if you have a discerning palate include Droste, Ghirardelli, Sharfenberger (sp?), Schokinag. Honestly, the hershey's one works just fine for me.

Just make sure of course that you get plain ol' COCOA POWDER and not HOT COCOA MIX by mistake!



Posted by: GoalGetter

Quote:
Originally Posted by lioness
good info for me. i've been wondering why some people (not here) freaked when i said i put protein powder in my oatmeal...
It's the same people who freak out because a banana has "too much sugar".



Posted by: lioness

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoalGetter
Lioness...

two inexpensive options immediately come to mind:

1) some sugar free fat free chocolate pudding mix (I'd say about 1/4 of the small packet might do the trick

or

2) get yourself a small canister of dutch-processed cocoa powder. Cheapest is like Hersheys (their Special Dark version is better than their regular version), and others that are even better if you have a discerning palate include Droste, Ghirardelli, Sharfenberger (sp?), Schokinag. Honestly, the hershey's one works just fine for me.

Just make sure of course that you get plain ol' COCOA POWDER and not HOT COCOA MIX by mistake!
thanks! i'll try this tomorrow morning!



Posted by: GoalGetter

Quote:
Originally Posted by lioness
thanks! i'll try this tomorrow morning!
if you use the cocoa powder you only need like a fraction of the serving size listed on the canister. you CAN go ahead and use the whole serving but it will be wayyyy too strong/rich unless you really like it that way!



Posted by: The Monkey Man

Peppermint -








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Posted by: GoalGetter

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Monkey Man
Peppermint -
Hush yo mouf.
Quote:
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Hello! See ya in a few days!



Posted by: Little Wing

my mom used to make this dessert a few times every winter. me n my brothers were the out playing softball, climbing trees type kids so i don't think it destroyed our health for those of you who tend to freak out... she made a chocolate cake n put warm pieces in a bowl with peppermint patties on top and then poured warm chocolate pudding over it.



Posted by: GoalGetter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Wing
my mom used to make this dessert a few times every winter. me n my brothers were the out playing softball, climbing trees type kids so i don't think it destroyed our health for those of you who tend to freak out... she made a chocolate cake n put warm pieces in a bowl with peppermint patties on top and then poured warm chocolate pudding over it.
oh man. that sounds DELICIOUS.



Posted by: lioness

Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Wing
my mom used to make this dessert a few times every winter. me n my brothers were the out playing softball, climbing trees type kids so i don't think it destroyed our health for those of you who tend to freak out... she made a chocolate cake n put warm pieces in a bowl with peppermint patties on top and then poured warm chocolate pudding over it.
OMG! YUMMY

To your mom:



Posted by: b_reed23

OMG....that sounds awsome!



Posted by: Little Wing

it is. i've never made it but i told my kids about it n they want it on cheat day.



Posted by: GoalGetter

Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Wing
it is. i've never made it but i told my kids about it n they want it on cheat day.

your kids have a cheat day?! what do they eat on a regular non-cheat day?



Posted by: Little Wing

lol on my cheat days they like to help plan treats. they are allowed junk only a couple times a month so basically they eat pretty much the same things i do except Ty gets regular cheeses, milk and some higer fat foods like peanut butter and i leave the yolks in his eggs. he'd be too skinny without the extra calories.



Posted by: juggernaut

Quote:
Originally Posted by lioness
good info for me. i've been wondering why some people (not here) freaked when i said i put protein powder in my oatmeal...
I do that all the time. It saves time.

Also do you people know that ATW does have the Chocolate Mint protein. It's great. I loved it.



Posted by: lioness

Chocolate mint....YUM!!!

Is ATW mostly sold online?

If so...HOW GOOD IS IT???

Would it keep me from going to McDonalds for the Shamrock Shake this month???



Posted by: juggernaut

shamrock shake turned down???? Are you out of your mind?! Never ever turn down a shamrock shake!

ATW is sold online and chocolate mint is worth the try.



Posted by: lioness

Quote:
Originally Posted by juggernaut
shamrock shake turned down???? Are you out of your mind?! Never ever turn down a shamrock shake!

ATW is sold online and chocolate mint is worth the try.


NOOOOO! You know what I'm talking about??? You're supposed to talk me out of it! Regular shakes I can walk away from...Muscle Milk satisfies me enough.

....but every March...here comes that stupid Shamrock Shake!!!




I think I'll order the Chocolate Mint ATW right now! I'm getting hungry.



Posted by: juggernaut

the pressure's way too hard on me to say no to a shamrock. Come onnnnnnn....play a Mary J. Blige song and drink it...you'll feel really guilty afterwards.



Posted by: lioness

Quote:
Originally Posted by juggernaut
the pressure's way too hard on me to say no to a shamrock. Come onnnnnnn....play a Mary J. Blige song and drink it...you'll feel really guilty afterwards.
you are satan!.



Posted by: juggernaut





Posted by: juggernaut





Posted by: lioness

Quote:
Originally Posted by juggernaut
Look what I found for you...

Copycat Shamrock Shake
2 cups vanilla ice cream
1-1/4 cups milk, 2% lowfat
1/4 tsp. mint extract
8 drops green food coloring

Directions:
Combine all ingredients in a blender and blend on high speed until smooth. Stop blender to stir with a spoon if necessary to help blend ice cream. Pour into 12-ounce cups and serve each with a straw.
Uh...did they really need to put these directions in writing??

Can you make it healthy? Vanilla Muscle Milk has a milk shake flavor...any ideas Chef Jugger?



Posted by: juggernaut

vanilla MM....I'll get back to that one.



Posted by: lioness

Quote:
Originally Posted by juggernaut
vanilla MM....I'll get back to that one.
waiting....



Posted by: GoalGetter

man you two have taken over my thread!!!! get a room! :wink:



Posted by: lioness

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoalGetter
man you two have taken over my thread!!!! get a room! :wink:
well...how do you expect anyone to behave themself when you make a thread about chocolate and mint!!!

juggernaut broke down and got a room. it's still in the Healthy Recipes hotel... room is Shamrock Shake....Ironmag style.



Posted by: juggernaut





Posted by: juggernaut

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoalGetter
man you two have taken over my thread!!!! get a room! :wink:
sorry



Posted by: Gordo

Quote:
Originally Posted by NickB
Wouldn't an easier way be to simply nuke the water until hot, pour in the protein powder and peppermint, stir, and drink? Less chance of denaturing the protein powder this way, I'd think.
http://nutrition.about.com/od/cookingandrecipes/


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Does baking ruin protein?
FAQ

From Shereen Jegtvig,
Your Guide to Nutrition.

Recently I started baking my own protein bars. I was really happy thinking that I was actually getting most of the benefits from the Isopure whey protein powder I was using, until my brother told me extreme heat makes the protein to lose its properties. I was baking my bars at 375 F for about 20-25 minutes. Is that true?
Veronica
A.

Heat denatures proteins which means it changes the shapes of the proteins. For example, cooking changes the shapes of the proteins in an egg when you cook the egg, Denaturing the proteins in teh egg changes the texture from slimy to firm. Cooking changes the shape of proteins, but cooking doesn't take away the amino acids found in those proteins. Baking your protein bars will not ruin your protein.
November 19, 2005

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Q: I heard that high temperatures "break down" protein. Will the cooking/baking process have a negative effect on the protein?

A: While it's true that proteins can be denatured by heat, unless the protein structure is particularly delicate or exposed to extremely high temperatures for extended periods of time, any denaturation that takes place is likely to be minimal. It is also important to keep in mind that denatured DOES NOT equal non-nutritious or unavailable - denaturation simply refers to a situation where the physical or chemical structure of a protein is rearranged. In some cases the denaturation process is temporary (e.g. whipping egg whites into a foam); in others, such as when you fry an egg, the denaturation is permanent. In both situations, the egg contains the same amino acid makeup and is equally nutritious. In fact, the fried egg is actually slightly more nutritious when cooked because cooking inactivates a component that binds the essential B-vitamin biotin. That said, while denaturation does not alter the nutritive value of proteins, excessive heat can reduce or destroy delicate peptides (i.e. microfractions) within a protein. For this reason, it is best to limit the exposure of 100% ANY WHEY Protein to high heat, and cook with lower temperatures whenever possible. In other words, add 100% ANY WHEY Protein at the end of the cooking cycle whenever possible, and choose lower temperature cooking like microwaving and baking over higher heat methods like pan or deep-frying.
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I am very much into eating right, and do cook a lot. Most of the time, though, my diest consists of Protein Shakes made from Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey (Good Stuff). I just started cooking with it though (making Pancakes out of that, and a mix of high fiber flours). I'm wondering though, if cooking whey protein affects its quality, and possibly kills a lot of it's Amino Acids.
Thanks.
Cordialinkwell

A.

Heat can denature proteins, which changes their shape, however the amino acids aren't destroyed.

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Many of the proteins present in whey are not only superior dietary nutrients, but can also act on the body to perform physiological functions. Whey proteins have demonstrated varying functions including; immune stimulation and modulation, anabolic growth stimulation, gut healing properties and stimulation of glutathione, the body's powerful antioxidant and detoxifier. These actions exist due to the particular folding patterns that exist in proteins. When denatured by heat, these folding patterns are altered and their corresponding actions are lost. The remaining protein is still a superior source of protein for supplementation.

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All protein denatures when it is heated. Steaks, eggs, fish, whatever. That why egg whites and fish go opaque when they get cooked. Even marinading fish in an acid like lime juice will 'denature' it. All protein gets denatured in your stomach after you have eaten it. This does not mean it is "useless" or has no food value anymore! Denaturing means the original folded structure of the protein has been modified. Your body has to break down protein foods into amino acids in order to absorb them.
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Posted by: GoalGetter

Quote:
Originally Posted by juggernaut
sorry

Hahahaha no need to apologize! i think it is just funny!



Posted by: juggernaut





Posted by: b_reed23

by the way....the recipe for hot chocolate is YUMMY with imitation cherry flavor.....like choco covered cherries



Posted by: juggernaut

that is good! especially the one with no sugar....actually if you get the one with sugar, use it after a workout for the dextrose. Not a bad idea reed.



Posted by: BigDyl

I don't think you should heat protein. It denatures it.



Posted by: juggernaut

no problem, mix the protein in after everything is heated.



Posted by: b_reed23

exactly....and don't heat the water too much...just to lukewarm.




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