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Posted by: SuperFlex

Who are you going with?

Posted by: SuperFlex

Mike Tyson...

Posted by: TJ Cline

Please....George Foreman...bitch

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Please....George Foreman...bitch

He may be. I haven't seen any of his fights...

Posted by: SuperFlex

http://media.putfile.com/Cro-Cop-vs-Bob-Sapp

Posted by: bio-chem

i agree with foreman on this one. the guy was a beast

Posted by: TJ Cline

Bob Sap is a total bitch

Posted by: SuperFlex

http://media.putfile.com/fast_ko

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Bob Sap is a total bitch

Dude is HUGE! I wasn't expecting that one...

Posted by: SuperFlex

http://media.putfile.com/Cheap-Knockout

Posted by: SuperFlex

http://media.putfile.com/MikeTyson---Knockouts

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by SuperFlex

Dude is HUGE! I wasn't expecting that one...

yes and I have watched him fight many times.....any low level boxer would destroy him easily

Posted by: SuperFlex

http://media.putfile.com/comp_tyson_naardekloteadotcom

Posted by: SuperFlex

http://media.putfile.com/LTBHTF

Warning: Some people killed

Posted by: musclepump

Tyson

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by musclepump

Tyson

He'd KO Foreman by round 3...

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by SuperFlex

He'd KO Foreman by round 3...

The story is that when Foreman was in his second boxing run for the title in the 90's Tyson would not fight him. I have talked to several people ( trainers and such) who said Tyson was terrified of George and refused to fight him....at one time the camps were trying to set up a fight.

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Lies, all lies...

The truth is Foreman was the one afraid to fight Mike. Mike did everything in his power to set it up. This was actually the point where Don King really stepped in. Even the devil himself couldn't through enough money at George to get him to fight...

This had those on the inside of the boxing world on the edge of their seats. They knew why George didn't want a piece of Mad Mike but they were bumfuzzled as to why even with being offered 37million dollars George still wouldn't fight Mike. Behind closed doors George was quoted as saying, "Sometimes you just gotta know when to tuck your tail between your legs and run home to your wife and kids."

This had Mike to his boiling point. Mike would constantly harrass ol George. He'd show up at George's grocery store and follow him around the aisles heckling him. Saying stuff like,"George you'd better make it two steaks. You're going to need the strength..." Or, "George forget the lucky charms. You're gonna need more than luck to fight me. Better go with the wheaties..." Rumor has it Mike even took a part time job as a bagger so he could heckle George at the check out lines. Many believe Mikes antics were the inspiration for George to create the lean mean grilling machine as an attempt to cut weight to fight Tyson.

Tyson also started going to his church(when he became muslim), gym, gas stations, you name it. Tyson was all over him like stink on doo doo... To make a long story short George simply refused. It was the real reason behind his first step away from boxing. Even when Mike banged his wife and treatened to eat his kids George tucked tail and ran.

True story...

Posted by: TJ Cline

Sorry kid but if you believe Don King then you are in trouble......go to any local boxing gym and ask the old timers what happened....Tyson ran like a bitch.

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Sorry kid but if you believe Don King then you are in trouble......go to any local boxing gym and ask the old timers what happened....Tyson ran like a bitch.

Oh yes, I believe every word Don King has to say...

It's like the old saying. I can tell when you're lying. Your lips are moving...

Posted by: maniclion

That Bob Sapp fight is a total fix, first of all the punch was a sissy slap and second his reaction was overkill, I hope he doesn't have plans for an acting career.

Posted by: The Monkey Man

Terrible Terry Norris!

Posted by: section8

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

i agree with foreman on this one. the guy was a beast

Watched the Ali vs Foreman fight a few weeks ago on ESPN Classic and IMO, Ali looked scared of Foreman, Foreman just got tired.d

Posted by: Dale Mabry

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Originally Posted by SuperFlex

Rumor has it Mike even took a part time job as a bagger...

I bet he wishes he never gave up that job now.

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by section8

Watched the Ali vs Foreman fight a few weeks ago on ESPN Classic and IMO, Ali looked scared of Foreman, Foreman just got tired.d

And for the next 3 1/2 years Ali wouldnt give him a rematch...

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I bet he wishes he never gave up that job now.

Good benefits. It was Kroger...

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by section8

Watched the Ali vs Foreman fight a few weeks ago on ESPN Classic and IMO, Ali looked scared of Foreman, Foreman just got tired.d

Tyson would have worn him out too!

Posted by: section8

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Originally Posted by SuperFlex

Tyson would have worn him out too!

No way!!!!

Ali or Foreman would have destroyed Tyson. Tyson fought with his head down too much, Ali and Foremans long arms would have caught him with a good uppercut and that would have been the end for Tyson.

Posted by: Tier

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Originally Posted by SuperFlex

http://media.putfile.com/MikeTyson---Knockouts

Where is the black guy on the bicycle behind him?

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by section8

He fought plenty of long armed bandits... Sure they weren't Ali and Foreman but I don't think so.

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by Tier

Where is the black guy on the bicycle behind him?

The flash from Tyson's punches block him out of view...

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by SuperFlex

Tyson would have worn him out too!

Tyson refused to fight Foreman in the 90's....proving once again Tyson is a bitch.

Posted by: TrojanMan60563

Tyson in his prime was the king of the ring and the hardest puncher of all time. I think it depends on the fighter and their better punches. Forman probably had a harder jab, BUT nobody could touch typsons uppercut....he would come from floor with it and try to puch through the roof....Tyson has the most powerful uppercut of all time hands down.

Posted by: SuperFlex

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Tyson refused to fight Foreman in the 90's....proving once again Tyson is a bitch.

See post #18 for the "True story."

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by SuperFlex

See post #18 for the "True story."

I posted this information for you before and gave sources and links...
Keep dreaming that Tyson was more than just average....KO'd at only 23 by a bum, and never good again.

Posted by: SuperFlex

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

Tyson in his prime was the king of the ring and the hardest puncher of all time. I think it depends on the fighter and their better punches. Forman probably had a harder jab, BUT nobody could touch typsons uppercut....he would come from floor with it and try to puch through the roof....Tyson has the most powerful uppercut of all time hands down.

Hell ya. Tyson's hooks and uppercut strength are nothing short of amazing. Not sure how hard he hits but it's strong enough to snap most peoples neck!

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I posted this information for you before and gave sources and links...
Keep dreaming that Tyson was more than just average....KO'd at only 23 by a bum, and never good again.

Because he was a head case... NOT because he couldn't box.

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by SuperFlex

Because he was a head case... NOT because he couldn't box.

Tyson was a one dimentional fighter with no heart or discipline .....that my friend is what we call a Bum!
Mike lost to almost every good fighter he ever faced, made a living beating up bums......the guy is and was a total joke and only a person with 0 boxing knowledge would think him otherwise.

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Nope

Posted by: SJ69

Tyson

Posted by: TJ Cline

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by SJ69

Tyson

I see you have good taste...

Posted by: TJ Cline

And a 55 IQ

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

And a 55 IQ

The average IQ of a Tyson opponent after the fight...

Posted by: TJ Cline

I see

Posted by: SuperFlex

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I see

About time...

Posted by: TJ Cline

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Do you have any links for Foremans fights? Or does no one produce them because he was a big sissy?...

Posted by: aceshigh

lennox lewis had the hardest punch in history,,,lennox was swimming in jamaica when a bull shark attemted to attack him ,,one straight right to the head and that bull shark was out cold,,,,lennox got out of the water and then proceeded to knock out 2 guys and fuck 5 bitches ,,and he did all of this in under half an hour

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by aceshigh

lennox lewis had the hardest punch in history,,,lennox was swimming in jamaica when a bull shark attemted to attack him ,,one straight right to the head and that bull shark was out cold,,,,lennox got out of the water and then proceeded to knock out 2 guys and fuck 5 bitches ,,and he did all of this in under half an hour

I was there! I saw it happen!!! I thought to myself, "Damn, I would have spent at least an hour with her..."

Posted by: tucker01

Tyson was an average boxer with good power in an era where there was shitty competition.

I have to agree with foremanrules on this one

Posted by: JOHNYORK

yoo every one is saying weak comp in trysons glory days which i disagree neways with but even if it was tyson aboslutely DESTROYED EVERYONE it wasnt like he won alot but some fights were lil close NO he DESTROYED EVERYONE before he was 20 if cus damato was alive shit would be different and tyson wasnt just power thats redicuoluse to say that he was a student of boxing and had supperior technique to go along with his devestating power.....o yea i jsut remembered lennox lewis was same age as tyson where was he same with holyfield when tyson was 20 chrushing everyone if tyson stood on the rigth path mlothafuka would be considered best heavyweight ever im done

Posted by: Ross051288

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

hmm...not biased at all

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by Ross051288

hmm...not biased at all

Simple facts, read up on it bro.

Posted by: musclepump

Tyson

Posted by: musclepump

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Tyson was an average boxer with good power in an era where there was shitty competition.

I have to agree with foremanrules on this one

Tyson won his first title beating Berbick, who had previously beaten Ali (though Ali's form at the time left something to be desired). If I remember right he also beat Holmes, Tubbs, and Spinks all fairly quickly.

Posted by: KentDog

Don't forget that back in the day the gloves were lighter.

Posted by: SuperFlex

http://www.videovat.com/videos/936/m...on-boxing.aspx

Posted by: Pedigree

Muhammed Ali said that Foreman was slow, but when he did connect, it felt like a sledgehammer.

I vote Foreman.

Posted by: JOHNYORK

giood looks flex that vid is sick thas what im sayin bout tyson hes a killa

Posted by: ANCAM

Did we all forget about the tyson uppercut? Back when he was a fresh 21 years old...

Posted by: JerseyDevil

I know it's fruitless to compare generations, but Foreman in his prime was ONE HELL of a harder puncher then Mike Tyson, in his prime.

I'm surprised that all of you boxing experts failed to mention that Ali used his famed "Rope-A-Dope" strategy against Foreman. Why? Because he was scared to death of his punching power.

Here is an excerpt from Wikpedia:

Rope-a-dope is a boxing fighting style used most famously by Muhammad Ali in the Rumble in the Jungle against George Foreman. The idea is for the boxer to lay on the ropes of a boxing ring, conserve energy and allow the opponent to strike him repeatedly in hopes of making him tire and open up weaknesses to exploit for an eventual counter-attack.

Laying on the ropes had been, and still is, considered to be a "sin" in boxing, because it exposes a fighter to punishment because he cannot move away from his opponent.

Ali had used the style of leaning on the ropes in a handful of his previous fights, most famously in his first fight with Joe Frazier where Frazier landed heavy blows to Ali. This seemed to further demonstrate that laying on the ropes was a bad thing, and could only harm the fighter who tried to stay on the ropes.

This did not discourage Ali from using this strategy against George Foreman. Foreman was possibly the hardest puncher in boxing history, and many felt Ali would have to stay away from Foreman in order to beat him. Ali instead started to lay on the ropes towards the end of the 1st round, and used the ropes throughout the rest of the fight. Foreman's strategy for the fight was to cut off the ring and get Ali to the ropes so that he could hit Ali and try to knock him out, so since Ali was willingly laying on the ropes Foreman would plant himself in front of Ali and punch Ali as hard as he could. Foreman landed constant blows to the body, but had trouble landing punches to the head. Foreman began to tire from all the punches he threw at Ali to no effect, and with the punches he was taking from Ali, Foreman was visibly finished by the 5th round. Ali "played" with Foreman until the 8th round, and then knocked him out. Ali had regained the Heavyweight title with this strategy of laying on the ropes, and allowing the hardest puncher of all time to swing away at him.

Posted by: aceshigh

foreman was wailing away on ali,s body and ali acted like he wasnt even hit,,that was the most impressive thing about that fight

Posted by: JOHNYORK

naa jersey u got a bebop wrong... like aces said ali was taking foremans hits using the roope adope strategy exactly...ali couldnt of did that against tyson cuz if tyson get one semi clean shot ure on the canvas hearing the ref say 10

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by JOHNYORK

naa jersey u got a bebop wrong... like aces said ali was taking foremans hits using the roope adope strategy exactly...ali couldnt of did that against tyson cuz if tyson get one semi clean shot ure on the canvas hearing the ref say 10

Ali wouldnt need to use the rope a dope on Tyson....Ali would just dance around him and blast him with jabs...then round 6 or 7 Ali would end Tyson for good.

Posted by: JOHNYORK

false story

Posted by: JerseyDevil

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Ali wouldnt need to use the rope a dope on Tyson....Ali would just dance around him and blast him with jabs...then round 6 or 7 Ali would end Tyson for good.

I'm with Foreman Rules on this one. EVERYONE was scared of George Foreman in his prime. As were contenders against Tyson. The difference was once Evander Holyfield exposed Tyson's weaknesses, he was never the same.

No one ever exposed Foreman's weaknesses, except for punching too much

Posted by: kicka19

tyson is a fuckn pitbull, most feard fighter i have ever seen

Posted by: Goodfella9783

Mickey Ward

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783

Mickey Ward

Mickey is the man!!

Posted by: TrojanMan60563

I think if Ali hung on the ropes Tyson would have beat him down quick. I think forman may put more weight behind a punch, but Tyson can throw a punch if not AS hard then ALMOST as hard as Foreman at a much faster spead. Tyson used to be quick and hard hitting. Tyson liked to rumble and if the fight lasts more than 5 rounds he doesn't have a prayer.

Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

I think if Ali hung on the ropes Tyson would have beat him down quick. I think forman may put more weight behind a punch, but Tyson can throw a punch if not AS hard then ALMOST as hard as Foreman at a much faster spead. Tyson used to be quick and hard hitting. Tyson liked to rumble and if the fight lasts more than 5 rounds he doesn't have a prayer.

It's well known in the boxing world that Tyson would not fight George in the 90's.....he was scared to death of him

But Ail would use his mind to destroy his opponets.....and Tyson was a coward....Ali would win the fight with him before the first punch was thrown.

Posted by: SuperFlex

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Would you lick Foreman on the butt?

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by SuperFlex

Would you lick Foreman on the butt?

Posted by: musclepump

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Originally Posted by SuperFlex

I don't follow boxing much, but... what the fuck was a boxer doing working at a grocery store? lol

Posted by: Ross051288

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

you don't know that, the only way to prove it would be to measure the force of their punches.

Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Mickey is the man!!

Absolutely...He's from Lowell, MA right around the corner from me. The three Gatti/Ward fights legendary. Good Lookin on the pics.

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