Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

but he is pretty young....but looks so damn old.

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

drugs and smoking?

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL)

I spoke with him a couple of weeks ago and he told me that he would do everything perfect this year, he will try to end top-3 and participate in everything from the battle for the Olympia dvd( he was never on there before) to all the expo/seminar shit.

Originally Posted by aceshigh

u spoke to him bullshit,,,,,,,u one of those guys on forums pretending there pro bbs lol

Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL)

I spoke with him a couple of weeks ago and he told me that he would do everything perfect this year, he will try to end top-3 and participate in everything from the battle for the Olympia dvd( he was never on there before) to all the expo/seminar shit.

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

he does not fit into the "new rules" the IFBB is trying to implement in bodybuilding, i.e. no GH gut, shape and symmetry.

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

it will never happen, not only is he WAAAY too blocky, but he does not fit into the "new rules" the IFBB is trying to implement in bodybuilding, i.e. no GH gut, shape and symmetry.

Originally Posted by musclepump

And yet Ronnie and Jay go 1-2... again...

Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL)

but he knows that he has more fans then anyone in the competition(yes even Gunther)

Originally Posted by musclepump

And yet Ronnie and Jay go 1-2... again...

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

and that is going to help his placing?

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

I think Gustavo should have been 2nd and Jay 3rd... who do you think should have placed in the top 3, Or did you even watch it?

Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL)

What the fuck is Gustavo doing on the top spot?

Originally Posted by musclepump

Yep. Gustavo, under the "new criteria" looked much better than Jay and even slightly better than Ronnie. Streamlined waist, and as much a V-taper as someone that size can have.

Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL)

Gustavo is way smaller then Ronnie and his gut is terrible, and Ronnie's gut looks better and Ronnie is bigger!

Originally Posted by musclepump

It's people like you that cause bodybuilding to be all about mass instead of aesthetics. Bring back the golden era, bring back Zane!

On you THEUNIT, For Shame!

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

Arnold did not use ANYWHERE near the amount of drugs that pros use today and you can STILL put his upper body up against the best pros of today.

I don't like where pro bodybuilding has ended up at all, yes we want mass, but I would MUCH rather watch Arnold pose, or even Lee Labrada, than Ronnie or Jay.

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

Arnold did not use ANYWHERE near the amount of drugs that pros use today and you can STILL put his upper body up against the best pros of today.

I don't like where pro bodybuilding has ended up at all, yes we want mass, but I would MUCH rather watch Arnold pose, or even Lee Labrada, than Ronnie or Jay.

Originally Posted by Luke95

AMEN! Jay and Ronnie are just too amorphous. There isn't much that I admire in their physiques.

Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL)

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

I have seen more pro bodybuilders guest pose over the past 15 years than I can remember, but not one, including Ronnie and Jay who I have seen, compares to when I saw Lee Labrada guest pose.

Originally Posted by musclepump

Melvin rocks at posing!

Originally Posted by THEUNIT(XXL)

In a way you are right, but not in the way of that they can't pose properly, because I've seen them pose both of them and they can pose like Labrada, look at last years Olympia, right at the verry end they start to pose good, and that's to bad but that's the way it goes nowadays, but the problem is that none of the top-50 guys do that, acctually almost none of them and I simply don't know why, because if none of them do it, why is that what has changed over the last 10 years or so? insulin, HGH and Myostatin blockers can't make you pose differently, they can make you bigger but even the little guys, none of them pose like that either.

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

my point was that Lee Labrada looked the way I think a bodybuilder should look and he knew how to present his physique, not to mention he had custom posing music and a very well choreographed routine. All of the guest posers I see today just come out and act stupid, and 9 times out of ten they look like fat slobs.