Originally Posted by gonzo719

Has anybody here used Iron addict or Swolecat? if so = were you satisfeid with the results? I am about to sign up with one of these guys - and i just want to know if it is worth the money.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Originally Posted by Stu

you gotta be joking? you're not seriously gonna pay money for an online personal trainer?

Originally Posted by gonzo719

Has anybody here used Iron addict or Swolecat? if so = were you satisfeid with the results? I am about to sign up with one of these guys - and i just want to know if it is worth the money.

Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

my coach is online and i have nothing but positive things to say about him. what's funny about that? some of the best coaches in the business are strictly online.

Originally Posted by Stu

I just fail to see how you can justifying paying for it. How can someone judge your workouts or motivate you from over the internet. Surely all they can do is advise on diet and maybe tweek your training according to the feedback you give them.

Originally Posted by Yanick

why not just learn and ask questions and do it for yourself?

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

some people like having more guidance, personal attention, and they want to hear what they consider to be expert advice from one source.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I would use an online coach only if:

1)I were relatively knowledgeable.
2)I lived in a place where there were no live trainers.
3)It is substantially cheaper.

Diet is cut and dry, I would have no problem using someone online for that. Training is a little different. An online trainer can give you rep, rest, and set parameters and those are easy enough to follow. Online, you cannot have form critiqued and that is as important as the other parameters. I imagine that well over 75% of the people who read this site don't bench properly, even though the info is there. And that is for an exercise as common as the bench press.

Originally Posted by Yanick

true, i guess i was always just a do-it-you-selfer...its why i fix my own car.

Originally Posted by P-funk

Dale trained my online and look how good I turned out!

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

same here...but many people like their hand held.

Originally Posted by P-funk

If it was a complete newbie that needs exercise instruction I think they would be better off finding a trainer in a gym that is qualified to help them learn exercise form.

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

true, but many trainers will not give much diet and nutrition advice because of the risk of a law suit if they are not a registered dietician.

Originally Posted by Stu

So how does your PT differ from this?

Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

i don't have a PT. i have a nutrition/training coach.

Originally Posted by Yanick

why not just learn and ask questions and do it for yourself?

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I imagine that well over 75% of the people who read this site don't bench properly, even though the info is there. And that is for an exercise as common as the bench press.

Originally Posted by gonzo719

I am fairly experienced as far as weightlifting goes and I did create my first cuttting diet right here and people were very helpful. In 20 weeks of cutting i lost 23lbs and got down to 11-12% BF. THen i stopped working out due to circumstances in my life. I really want that six pack. I am not sold on swolecat or iron addict - but they seam really reputable. Especially iron addict because he writes alot of articles and talks to you on the phone. I know the diet i put together worked but my diet became to routine and so did the workouts. And sometimes on these forums everybody has their own opinions and somethimes you dont know who is right. be it volume vs. HIT - LISS Vs. HIIT. when to do cardio - and how many times a week. my goal right now is to get down to 8%BF and retain as much muscle as possible. then gain about 15lbs of muscle. So i have been researching the online trainers and i have to admit i am intrigued but the money is stopping me. If anybody can help on my cutting conquest it will much appreciated.

Originally Posted by gonzo719

And sometimes on these forums everybody has their own opinions and somethimes you dont know who is right.

Originally Posted by P-funk

holding peoples hands pays my bills.

Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

it's a shame how many people use borderline horrible form in the gym on most exercises.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

I'll hold your hand.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I watched a guy, a trainer noentheless, do cleans in the gym before the holidays. I cannot even explain what he was doing. He was actually doing hang cleans. He started by lowering his thighs and resting the bar on them. He then sat there for 5 seconds and muscled up the weight, unevenly mind you, for aBout 5 seconds. his end position had the bar resting on his clavicle and his elbows down at his sides. Pretty funny to watch.

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

This is true, but often times there is no one right answer. There may be different opinions, each with some very valid points and arguments. It's up to you to decide who is 'right' for what you need.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Not true son, my opinion is always the only true answer!

Originally Posted by MyK

my gut reaction is that anyone who needs a personal trainer obviously has some self efficacy and motivational issues.

but then seeing all the noobs at the gym this past week makes me realize that ALOT of people do need the guidance of a personal trainer. However, they need them there in the flesh to help show proper form and exerciseds and all that crap that we just assume everyone knows.

this is why an online personal trainer is rediculous, IMO for a personal trainer to be of worth they need to be there in the flesh!

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I agree 100%

Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

it's a shame how many people use borderline horrible form in the gym on most exercises.

Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

my coach is online and i have nothing but positive things to say about him. what's funny about that? some of the best coaches in the business are strictly online.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Borderline? The people I see in my gym see the line, take a shit on the line, light it on fire, and then ride through their own flaming shit on a motorcycle.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

Did you know you werent wearing a bra in your picture?

Originally Posted by juggernaut

Did you know you werent wearing a bra in your picture?

Originally Posted by MyK

my gut reaction is that anyone who needs a personal trainer obviously has some self efficacy and motivational issues.

but then seeing all the noobs at the gym this past week makes me realize that ALOT of people do need the guidance of a personal trainer. However, they need them there in the flesh to help show proper form and exerciseds and all that crap that we just assume everyone knows.

this is why an online personal trainer is rediculous, IMO for a personal trainer to be of worth they need to be there in the flesh!

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

When I post my pics, I will be topless also.

Originally Posted by gopro

I have been online coaching for years and my customers love it. I even do contest prep online and as long as my clients cooperate, it works amazingly well. Obviously I charge about 3X as much to train someone in person, but for those that can't afford it, or don't live close by, online training is an excellent alternative.

Originally Posted by Vieope

Originally Posted by P-funk

Dale trained my online and look how good I turned out!

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

When I post my pics, I will be topless also.

Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

thanks for lookin' out...

Originally Posted by juggernaut

no problem...can we have a front side now?

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Yes I will post my side breast for you soon baby.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I'm not in shape yet but will post the pics in a few weeks, plaese dont make fun of me.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

i don't have a PT. i have a nutrition/training coach.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I'm not in shape yet but will post the pics in a few weeks, plaese dont make fun of me.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

pussy.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

1/17/2006

Originally Posted by BigDyl

Try 11/30/NEVER!!

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Love it, do you?

Originally Posted by juggernaut

breakfast of champions.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

You will see , I'm in terrible shape but still look better than 90% of you bitches.

Originally Posted by P-funk

It sounds like a good idea. I should do online counseling since I hate people (that is a realy big problem for me being a trainer).

Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

i disagree.

a lot of people don't need guidance...a lot of people need to pull their heads outta their asses and use proper form rather than trying to show off for the next guy. proper form isn't hard...people are lazy.

disagree again.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I'm not in shape yet but will post the pics in a few weeks, plaese dont make fun of me.

Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

you should really consider this.

Originally Posted by P-funk

because you know how much I hate people?

Originally Posted by The13ig13adWolf

maybe, LOL. actually because you may like it better than training in person.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

thought about training people to accompany my gigantic teacher's salary. How is it? Hard to do? Recommend the ACE cert? How do you get clients??

Originally Posted by juggernaut

sorry dyl, I wanna take people's money. And if I were looking for a trainer, it would have to be someone who knows what theyre doing...ooooooooooohhhhh

Originally Posted by juggernaut

thought about training people to accompany my gigantic teacher's salary. How is it? Hard to do? Recommend the ACE cert? How do you get clients??

Originally Posted by P-funk

yes, I actually would love it better then training people in person! BUT....the thing about me that you may not know is that I am the worst business man ever! I wouldn't even know where to start. I am pretty awful at the business aspect of things. Honestly, if my clients weren't so honest most of them would be getting trained for free because I don't ever track session.

Originally Posted by BritChick

I have a few online clients and I have to say I'm the opposite of you Funky, I love training in person I HATE training online. I guess I'm more of a people person and enjoy that one on one interaction. The online stuff I find tiresome as it ties me to the computer too much and I'd rather be in the gym.

Originally Posted by P-funk

depends on the client. with most of my clients that are fat, lazy and unmotivated I would rather have them pay me to write up a program and email it to them so I don't have to deal with their annoying ass. For the athletes I love to be there and get in the gym and go at it with them. that is fun.

Originally Posted by BritChick

When you put it like that it makes a lot of sense.
And hopefully the fat, lazy, unmotivated bastards will just disappear, I find I just get a lot of whining 'I can't do it', 'the diet's too hard', 'I ache' e-mails though and they are okay to a point but after a while... (like the third one in the same day!) it gets a bit frustrating!

Originally Posted by P-funk

why, you just don't reply....or, if you do it saves the confrontation that you have to have when they are in the gym in you face....for example.....


Britchick (sitting there receiving a third email from a fat animal):
UGH! Why does this bitch keep bothering. Cunt. That's it....I am going to reply to her.....

Dear Mrs Piggy,

I understand this stuff is hard. It is hard for me too. I feel your pain! I know we have only been working for 4 sessions and you are already expecting to see improvements but things don't happen that quickly. After all, if took you 10 years to be come the fat animal that you are today. I am hear for you though. For support and to answer all your questions. I do have one question though. Since this is how I make my living I need to know if you mailed my check for the services I am providing? Thanks.

sincerly,
Britchick.


Mrs. Piggy Replies.....

Britchick,

thanks, yes. I have sent your check for the $500 you requested. Thank you for taking the time to help me. I have been so frustrated..........


waite a minute!?!?!?! Britchick goes back and reads the first line again.....Okay, the money is on the way. Britchick stops reading and types her reply:

Mrs. Piggy,

Thanks for sending the money. Hope you have a nice life you fat piece of shit. In fact I hope you die. You should kill yourself, you are the most miserable person in the world and you are bringing me down with ya. You are a fat pig and you make me sick. The only thing that makes me happy is knowing that we do this via email and I don't have to smell you when you work out. Thanks for sending the money. Hope you have a nice (short) life.

sincerly,
britchick

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Remember Patrick, every time you point a finger at someone else, 3 more are pointing back at you.

Originally Posted by P-funk

why, you just don't reply....or, if you do it saves the confrontation that you have to have when they are in the gym in you face....for example.....


Britchick (sitting there receiving a third email from a fat animal):
UGH! Why does this bitch keep bothering. Cunt. That's it....I am going to reply to her.....

Dear Mrs Piggy,

I understand this stuff is hard. It is hard for me too. I feel your pain! I know we have only been working for 4 sessions and you are already expecting to see improvements but things don't happen that quickly. After all, if took you 10 years to be come the fat animal that you are today. I am hear for you though. For support and to answer all your questions. I do have one question though. Since this is how I make my living I need to know if you mailed my check for the services I am providing? Thanks.

sincerly,
Britchick.


Mrs. Piggy Replies.....

Britchick,

thanks, yes. I have sent your check for the $500 you requested. Thank you for taking the time to help me. I have been so frustrated..........


waite a minute!?!?!?! Britchick goes back and reads the first line again.....Okay, the money is on the way. Britchick stops reading and types her reply:

Mrs. Piggy,

Thanks for sending the money. Hope you have a nice life you fat piece of shit. In fact I hope you die. You should kill yourself, you are the most miserable person in the world and you are bringing me down with ya. You are a fat pig and you make me sick. The only thing that makes me happy is knowing that we do this via email and I don't have to smell you when you work out. Thanks for sending the money. Hope you have a nice (short) life.

sincerly,
britchick

Originally Posted by juggernaut

thought about training people to accompany my gigantic teacher's salary. How is it? Hard to do? Recommend the ACE cert? How do you get clients??