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Timing 2 cycles

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Posted by: SJ69

Here's the problem --> There was a delay getting my gear. I was going to run 2 cycles, a big bulker 750mg Test E 900mg EQ for 10-12 wks. Then hit a quick 8 week prop cutter in june and july. Now If I run the big cycle first it will take me into May and I won't be ready again until August. I don't want to be in PCT for the summer, I wanna be ON for the summer.
So do you think I could run the 8 week prop cycle as a bulker and the Test E / EQ as a cutter in the summer? It just seems bass ackward to me.

How would you run it if you wanted to get 2 cycles in between now and Sept?
Thanx


Posted by: Pirate!

I think going off for a month is pointless. I'd bulk until Summer, then start cutting. No reason to do a prop cycle. Just stay on Test E/ EQ the whole way. All you have to change is your diet and routine. If you get stuck trying to make gains, swith to a cut and/or change gear.


Posted by: TJ Cline

8 weeks on 8 weeks off 8 weeks on


Posted by: Tough Old Man

So you want to run them one after the other which would be a 20 week cycle. Is that correct?

1st. How many cycles have you done before?
2nd. What are your stat's right now. Age, height and weight and rough B/F %?


Posted by: Pirate!

After being off Test E and EQ for only 8 weeks, I don't think a prop only cycle will yield the desired results.


Posted by: Tough Old Man

Ok here's what I would do if I wanted to bulk and then cut by summer.

Bulk

1-4 D-bol @ 30 mgs / ed
1-8 Test E @ 750 mgs / ew
1-8 EQ @ 800 mgs / ew

PCT and keep the training and calories up.

Cut

1-6 Test Prop @ 200 mgs / eod
1-6 Tren A @ 150 mgs / eod

You'll be ready for summer


Posted by: SJ69

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tough Old Man
So you want to run them one after the other which would be a 20 week cycle. Is that correct?

1st. How many cycles have you done before?
2nd. What are your stat's right now. Age, height and weight and rough B/F %?
I've done three cycles before. My last was Test E 750mg ew, Deca 450 mg ew
I'm 36, 190 lbs at 5'10" bf just a guess 16%

Also thanx for the suggestions.
8- 8- 8 looks interesting.
so does the prop / tren 6 weeker


Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by SJ69
I've done three cycles before. My last was Test E 750mg ew, Deca 450 mg ew
I'm 36, 190 lbs at 5'10" bf just a guess 16%

Also thanx for the suggestions.
8- 8- 8 looks interesting.
so does the prop / tren 6 weeker
8-8-8 will put you thru the summer and you'll most likely lose a lot of your gains during those 8 weeks off. If your looking to get bigger and be cut by summer, then take my advice. 8 weeks of bulking, pct and and then 6 cutting. You won't put that much B/F on in 8 weeks if your diet is clean and you may only need 4 weeks of cutting.

Note: Those with good genetics might hold most of there gains, but the ave will lose a lot of it.

You could do this so you can start PCT earlier.

1-4 d-bol
1-6 Test E
1-8 Tren A
7-8 Test Prop

PCT 4 days after last shots and for 3 weeks.

Then cut with Test E and EQ. It will work if diet is clean. Use Arimidex during the cut to keep water retention at a hold. I kind of like those two cycles.


Tough


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tough Old Man
8-8-8 will put you thru the summer and you'll most likely lose a lot of your gains during those 8 weeks off. If your looking to get bigger and be cut by summer, then take my advice. 8 weeks of bulking, pct and and then 6 cutting. You won't put that much B/F on in 8 weeks if your diet is clean and you may only need 4 weeks of cutting.

Note: Those with good genetics might hold most of there gains, but the ave will lose a lot of it.

You could do this so you can start PCT earlier.

1-4 d-bol
1-6 Test E
1-8 Tren A
7-8 Test Prop

PCT 4 days after last shots and for 3 weeks.

Then cut with Test E and EQ. It will work if diet is clean. Use Arimidex during the cut to keep water retention at a hold. I kind of like those two cycles.


Tough
If a person loses any gains after just 8 weeks off then that person has no idea how to eat or train.....other than dropping some water you should still be holding at least 90% of your gains 8 weeks out.


Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
If a person loses any gains after just 8 weeks off then that person has no idea how to eat or train.....other than dropping some water you should still be holding at least 90% of your gains 8 weeks out.
Remember what works for one doesn't always work for another. You happen to be one that holds most all his strength and size. I on the other hand watch it start disappearing pretty quickly no matter how my diet or training is.


Tough


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tough Old Man
Remember what works for one doesn't always work for another. You happen to be one that holds most all his strength and size. I on the other hand watch it start disappearing pretty quickly no matter how my diet or training is.


Tough
8 weeks is nothing......now if you are juiced to the max and at the top of your drug potential you will come down fast. Plus it depends on how fast you recover from your cycle....I do short cycles and recover very fast.....if I did 12 weeks + then I would be shut down twice as long.
But a normal guy who does propper PCT, eats big post cycle and trains hard.....he should hold all gains for at least 6 weeks ( - the water weight) ....and not really see a big decrease 3+ months.When guys lose the extra water they lose size and strength...but that is not really the same as losing lean muscle.


Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
8 weeks is nothing......now if you are juiced to the max and at the top of your drug potential you will come down fast. Plus it depends on how fast you recover from your cycle....I do short cycles and recover very fast.....if I did 12 weeks + then I would be shut down twice as long.
But a normal guy who does propper PCT, eats big post cycle and trains hard.....he should hold all gains for at least 6 weeks ( - the water weight) ....and not really see a big decrease 3+ months.When guys lose the extra water they lose size and strength...but that is not really the same as losing lean muscle.
Oh well sorry I disagree.


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