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Posted by: Mudge

Oh, how I love you. How did I live without you? I just wanted to write you to let you know its good to have you back, you are so good to me.

In two mere weeks its as if you were never gone, its as if I never took a break, from the eating or from your sweet sweet lovin'.

How did I ever let you go?

Your were always my favorite bitch...



Posted by: bushroot

You're scaring me Mudge.



Posted by: largepkg

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
Oh, how I love you. How did I live without you? I just wanted to write you to let you know its good to have you back, you are so good to me.

In two mere weeks its as if you were never gone, its as if I never took a break, from the eating or from your sweet sweet lovin'.

How did I ever let you go?

Your were always my favorite bitch...




Posted by: largepkg

Mudge, actually your enthusiasm is getting me excited. I just purchased my next cycle which kicks off with 4 weeks of your favorite bitch.

I'm not positive on this but weren't you saying awhile back that Drol only added lower body mass for you, not much else?



Posted by: ZorroAzul

You forgot to mention it is the only steroind DIRECTLY linked to Liver cancer??

Ever watch anyone die of liver cancer, mudge?? I have, my mom's best friend. words cannot describe the horror...

I do not want muscle that bad, thank you I will pass...



Posted by: largepkg

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZorroAzul
You forgot to mention it is the only steroind DIRECTLY linked to Liver cancer??

Ever watch anyone die of liver cancer, mudge?? I have, my mom's best friend. words cannot describe the horror...

I do not want muscle that bad, thank you I will pass...

Wow, what a downer you are!



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZorroAzul
You forgot to mention it is the only steroind DIRECTLY linked to Liver cancer??

Ever watch anyone die of liver cancer, mudge?? I have, my mom's best friend. words cannot describe the horror...

I do not want muscle that bad, thank you I will pass...
Hey people get liver cancer from drinking to much. It's just the way things workout sometimes.


Tough



Posted by: ZorroAzul

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tough Old Man
Hey people get liver cancer from drinking to much. It's just the way things workout sometimes.
I guess it depends how much risk is acceptable for you. I ride motorcycles, so who am I to talk?

But that experience left a scar in me, you basically die with your guts disected open because the wounds of surgery won't heal anymore... 60 lbs of weight, yellow/green and a myriad of tubes to drain fluids coming directly out of your body... plus of course nose, mouth, and the omniscent fluids bag to the crook of the elbow.

I've always thought I'd kill myself before getting to that point.



Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally Posted by largepkg
I'm not positive on this but weren't you saying awhile back that Drol only added lower body mass for you, not much else?
Largely it seem/ed that way, but keep in mind I dieted down to 225 so being up about 23 pounds from that point (so far) is not all in my legs.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZorroAzul
You forgot to mention it is the only steroind DIRECTLY linked to Liver cancer??
Do you think drinking in excess is healthy? Sex with random strangers?

Everything has a risk, and idiots up the ante like nobody else. I check my blood, do you? I'm doing just fine.



Posted by: The Monkey Man



This is good information -



Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZorroAzul
But that experience left a scar in me, you basically die with your guts disected open because the wounds of surgery won't heal anymore... 60 lbs of weight, yellow/green and a myriad of tubes to drain fluids coming directly out of your body...
Completely understandable. But this is akin to arguments about outlawing lawful gun possession because someone died from a gunshot because some idiot didn't belong having one.

Should everyone else suffer because of one person?

Should I believe I'm going to rot and die of cancer just because someone else did?

Should I believe the aliens are coming and we are all going to burn in hell because that guy in the sleeping bag on 5th and Townsend told me so?



Posted by: largepkg

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
Should I believe the aliens are coming and we are all going to burn in hell because that guy in the sleeping bag on 5th and Townsend told me so?





Posted by: Mudge

The one study I can remember right now where a person had problems on anadrol, it was a woman who already had liver lacerations.



Posted by: Emre Karasan

In turkey, it is totally legal, sold over the counter, 20 tabs 20 dollars in pharmacies
but boy, my life is to precious, I wouldn't use it even it would be free...



Posted by: ZorroAzul

Mudge, your analogies are not logical, while the statistic risk of liver cancer because of Anadrol is. Just google +Anadrol + Liver + Cancer

Just because I tripped over my shoelaces and killed myself doesn't mean that anyone with them will do the same. Nor does doing anadrol. But everytime you take a big gamble like that (backed by stats) , is like pulling the lever at the casino. sooner or later you will get the $$$$ sign!



Posted by: brogers

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZorroAzul
Mudge, your analogies are not logical, while the statistic risk of liver cancer because of Anadrol is. Just google +Anadrol + Liver + Cancer

Just because I tripped over my shoelaces and killed myself doesn't mean that anyone with them will do the same. Nor does doing anadrol. But everytime you take a big gamble like that (backed by stats) , is like pulling the lever at the casino. sooner or later you will get the $$$$ sign!
Anadrol was used in medicine at higher doses (2-5mg/kg) than mudge is probably using. Oh yeah, and these people are using for months.

Tons of things linked to cancer, ever filled up gas? "LONG-TERM EXPOSURE TO VAPORS HAS CAUSED CANCER IN LABORATORY ANIMALS."

I really don't think you know what you're talking about.



Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZorroAzul
Mudge, your analogies are not logical, while the statistic risk of liver cancer because of Anadrol is.
Show us some statistics then.



Posted by: Mudge

Quote:
Originally Posted by brogers
Anadrol was used in medicine at higher doses (2-5mg/kg) than mudge is probably using. Oh yeah, and these people are using for months.
After a number of weeks I had problems @ 200mg a day, so at the moment I stick to 100mg and am responding quite well.



Posted by: Emre Karasan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
After a number of weeks I had problems @ 200mg a day, so at the moment I stick to 100mg and am responding quite well.
How are your nipples responding?
They can add great size to your chest
Keep on eating bon bons...



Posted by: largepkg

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emre Karasan
How are your nipples responding?
They can add great size to your chest
Keep on eating bon bons...

The word TOOL comes to mind...



Posted by: musclepump

Careful with drinking that water guys, it can kill you.



Posted by: Pirate!

I've been tempted to use Drol simply because you always speek so highly of it, but most of what I've read doesn't sound to good. I especially don't like how it act like an estrogen in some ways. I'll guess I'll only know if I try...



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZorroAzul
I guess it depends how much risk is acceptable for you. I ride motorcycles, so who am I to talk?

But that experience left a scar in me, you basically die with your guts disected open because the wounds of surgery won't heal anymore... 60 lbs of weight, yellow/green and a myriad of tubes to drain fluids coming directly out of your body... plus of course nose, mouth, and the omniscent fluids bag to the crook of the elbow.

I've always thought I'd kill myself before getting to that point.
You cycle roids don't you. So you may feel Test is the only safe thing out there and other might feel Eq is the only safe thing out there. Now there are a few roids that i won't touch. But anadrol is not one of them. You just don't want to take it to long and at to high of a dose or to often.



Posted by: ZorroAzul

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
Show us some statistics then.
I am not trying to start an argument, just telling you to be careful.
I did not find stats per se, but check out this link from the National Library of Medicine. It is a search for Oxymetholone+Liver+Cancer.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...arch&DB=pubmed

These are only 3 results out of 2 pages worth...

-Shimoji N, Imaida K, Hasegawa R, Matsuoka C, Uneyama CT, Takahashi M, Hayashi Y.
Enhancing effect of oxymetholone, an anabolic steroid, on development of liver cell foci in rats initiated with N-diethylnitrosamine.
Cancer Lett. 1990 Feb;49(2):165-8.

-Nakao A, Sakagami K, Nakata Y, Komazawa K, Amimoto T, Nakashima K, Isozaki H, Takakura N, Tanaka N.
Multiple hepatic adenomas caused by long-term administration of androgenic steroids for aplastic anemia in association with familial adenomatous polyposis.

-Velazquez I, Alter BP.
Androgens and liver tumors: Fanconi's anemia and non-Fanconi's conditions.


then make your own decisions from there on. Good luck



Posted by: section8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
Oh, how I love you. How did I live without you? I just wanted to write you to let you know its good to have you back, you are so good to me.

In two mere weeks its as if you were never gone, its as if I never took a break, from the eating or from your sweet sweet lovin'.

How did I ever let you go?

Your were always my favorite bitch...
Funny! I have a friend, who is using anadrol on his current cycle, read this and he said he feels the same.



Posted by: tommyboy11

haha loved this post mudge, cant wait till i go back on drol n test in about a month or so



Posted by: Mudge

I feel invincible on drol minus my left shoulder injury, I go in and just obliterate my numbers week after week. I admit that I also feel different, although I'm sure it has a couple reasons behind it.



Posted by: Getbig82

Yea, but people smoke cigarettes, and know what can happen. Whatever makes you happy. Gotta die someday might as well go out with a bang.(Happiness is the key my friend).



Posted by: largepkg

Quote:
Originally Posted by Getbig82
Yea, but people smoke cigarettes, and know what can happen. Whatever makes you happy. Gotta die someday might as well go out with a bang.

(Happiness is the key my friend).

With a modicum of intelligence.



Posted by: Getbig82

And humans are intelligent?



Posted by: Getbig82

But I get your point brother.



Posted by: TJ Cline

you have 4 levels of BB
1. natural
2. Test/Deca/EQ/Primo/Anavar/d-bol/winny ect
3. Anadrol and Tren added to the mix
4. GH and insulin


So.....Anadrol and Tren are amazing



Posted by: largepkg

Quote:
Originally Posted by Getbig82
And humans are intelligent?
As individuals we certainly are. Once we get within a group we generally fall into whatever the group decides or does. I refer to those majority as sheep.



Posted by: largepkg

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
you have 4 levels of BB
1. natural
2. Test/Deca/EQ/Primo/Anavar/d-bol/winny ect
3. Anadrol and Tren added to the mix
4. GH and insulin


So.....Anadrol and Tren are amazing

This will be my first using either substance. I start the cycle in 41/2 weeks. I sure hope to see amazing things, we'll see.



Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by largepkg
This will be my first using either substance. I start the cycle in 41/2 weeks. I sure hope to see amazing things, we'll see.
Bro I did about 8 cycles of test, Deca and D-bol or Test, EQ and D-bol.....I got up to 245 at 11% and benched 495......then in only one cycle in week 8 I added TrenA at 76mg eod and 50mg Anadrol ed....for only the last 2 weeks of the 10 week cycle.....I got up to 257 and a 550 bench in about 12 days....and I was doing no legs or dead lifts at the time.....amazing shit



Posted by: largepkg

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Bro I did about 8 cycles of test, Deca and D-bol or Test, EQ and D-bol.....I got up to 245 at 11% and benched 495......then in only one cycle in week 8 I added TrenA at 76mg eod and 50mg Anadrol ed....for only the last 2 weeks of the 10 week cycle.....I got up to 257 and a 550 bench in about 12 days....and I was doing no legs or dead lifts at the time.....amazing shit
Sweet! I just caught wood.

*Disclaimer* The above comment is no reflection of my sexual orientation. Even if Foreman is a rich white man.



Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by largepkg
Sweet! I just caught wood.

*Disclaimer* The above comment is no reflection of my sexual orientation. Even if Foreman is a rich white man.
The amazing thing is I was stuck at 245 and a 495 bench for about a year.....then I found the magic juice



Posted by: kicka19

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
you have 4 levels of BB
1. natural
2. Test/Deca/EQ/Primo/Anavar/d-bol/winny ect
3. Anadrol and Tren added to the mix
4. GH and insulin


So.....Anadrol and Tren are amazing
1. i was under the impression tren was a fairly mild steroid.
2. while i have no want to mess wit insulin, on other boards peeple use it much more freely than here, some who have never even used gear are using it



Posted by: Mudge

Tren is considered one of God's gifts, the golden juice.



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by kicka19
1. i was under the impression tren was a fairly mild steroid.
2. while i have no want to mess wit insulin, on other boards peeple use it much more freely than here, some who have never even used gear are using it
tren will definitely help your strength.



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
I admit that I also feel different, although I'm sure it has a couple reasons behind it.
What exactly does the above mean. Are you coming out of the closet. Hopefully it's not making you feel like you want to move to San Francisco I hope. . Shit I just ordered Var and Tren A and now wish I would have ordered some Drol powder as well.


Tough and Dirty



Posted by: FullGo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
Tren is considered one of God's gifts, the golden juice.
and if u make ur own its cheap golden juice



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by FullGo
and if u make ur own its cheap golden juice
well cheaper then buyiong it from some supplier. but if you use it like i do, it's still expensive to make and use. I use 100mgs a day for 6 weeks when i use it. That eats up a 50 ml vial in those 6 weeks.



Posted by: Mudge

Tren still costs a lot more than most other gear, but it was good to me in the past. Last time I ran it though it just didn't do the trick for me, drol though never dissapoints me - so far(?)

It could in part be muscle memory but I'm very close to my peak numbers size wise, in an amazingly short period of time.

I tore through about 25 grams of tren enanthate, and found that for me it wasn't worth it.



Posted by: FullGo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tough Old Man
well cheaper then buyiong it from some supplier. but if you use it like i do, it's still expensive to make and use. I use 100mgs a day for 6 weeks when i use it. That eats up a 50 ml vial in those 6 weeks.
very true u tren absorbing sponge lol



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by FullGo
very true u tren absorbing sponge lol
See i'm old and follow the young. So I'm a good student and followed my teacher ........... Mr. Mudge



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Bump, I will never let this post die



Posted by: TrojanMan60563

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
Tren still costs a lot more than most other gear, but it was good to me in the past. Last time I ran it though it just didn't do the trick for me, drol though never dissapoints me - so far(?)

It could in part be muscle memory but I'm very close to my peak numbers size wise, in an amazingly short period of time.

I tore through about 25 grams of tren enanthate, and found that for me it wasn't worth it.

I know you used to be a huge fan of short esters but I think you got burned out from the ED EOD injects....now that you have ran all that test E are you back to short esters?

I know tren seems to be the drug of choice for strength....but how is it for LBM? Compared to test how does it stack up for adding lean muscle? I've mentioned before that strength is not really a concern for me. (I used to powerlift but now I could care less about max lifts)



Posted by: Mudge

Nope, long esters only. Even 2 shots a week sometimes makes me groan, but thats life.

I gave up on tren at least for now, I really did well with acetate long ago, but I almost always had an oral with it either dbol or drol. When I did the enanthate for whatever reason(s), I just didn't see much. So when I say it wasn't worth it to me, it pretty much wasn't.

Per gram it costs 6 times EQ, and I'm doing very well right now with just test/eq/drol. A friend of mine is in love with the hex but that costs the most, its 20 times more expensive than test powder.

Just to picture that reality, if I increased my brokerage account by 20 fold I'd retire.



Posted by: TrojanMan60563

Mudge so your saying that Tren is over rated? Or not giving you the results it once was?

I didn't mind EOD injects but after a couple weeks I was super tired of them...even twice a week didn't make me thrilled. Thats why next cycle is either going to be a short short ester cycle like 4 weeks, or its going to be a moderate long ester cycle only requiring 1 inject per week.



Posted by: Mudge

I loved tren, but not the enanthate. Can't say why but I went through 25g and it just wasn't worth it. Or it could be my being oral free at the time just wasn't helping me enough, or maybe I was training too hard. Too many factors.

Right now I train more frequently but very low volume and not to failure.



Posted by: TrojanMan60563

For some reason I thought you were talking about test enanthate not working for you anymore. I was a bit confused. I have heard from lots of folks the tren acetate worked much better for them.

I think the majority of people over train their muscles...I have always built the best size lifting no lower than 6 reps on anything, and no more than 12 unless its legs and I've gone as high as 25 reps for legs.



Posted by: Mudge

Legs/traps for me are 20-30 reps, everything else is light 8-12 or so. Nothing to failure, going easy on my body right now.



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
Nope, long esters only. Even 2 shots a week sometimes makes me groan, but thats life.

I gave up on tren at least for now, I really did well with acetate long ago, but I almost always had an oral with it either dbol or drol. When I did the enanthate for whatever reason(s), I just didn't see much. So when I say it wasn't worth it to me, it pretty much wasn't.

Per gram it costs 6 times EQ, and I'm doing very well right now with just test/eq/drol. A friend of mine is in love with the hex but that costs the most, its 20 times more expensive than test powder.

Just to picture that reality, if I increased my brokerage account by 20 fold I'd retire.
I think I missed something. What is Hex?



Posted by: Mudge

Tren hex (ester), the old commercial product was called Parabolan. Longer than acetate but shorter than enanthate.



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
Tren hex (ester), the old commercial product was called Parabolan. Longer than acetate but shorter than enanthate.
Got you.
Funny I was looking into Methenolone Acetate, but man does that shit cost a few bucks even if you brew it yourself.

Wonder how Primobolan stacks up to Tren Hex. There both about the same price.



Posted by: FullGo

never ran either one. but from what ive read tren hex (aka parabolan) would be the stronger of the 2 compounds



Posted by: Mudge

Primo is deca with pee in it, nothing compared to tren. Different beasts.



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
Primo is deca with pee in it, nothing compared to tren. Different beasts.
that's exactly what I thought. Just can't figure out why Primo is so expensive. It is right there as one of the highest priced roids there is.


Tough



Posted by: Mudge

Nobody was making it for years until powder guys started making it again, its one of those "oh boy it has no side effects" kind of steroids, like anavar.

So appropriately, women like it very much.



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mudge
Nobody was making it for years until powder guys started making it again, its one of those "oh boy it has no side effects" kind of steroids, like anavar.

So appropriately, women like it very much.
I'll stick to my four favorites. Test, Tren, EQ and D-bol for all my cycles. Forgot I just ordered Anavar powder. Got to give that a shot when cutting.



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