Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

These things any good to use for rows? Thinking of buying one today for my home gym.




Thanks tough

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Sorry had a hard time getting the picture in

Originally Posted by min0 lee

Just make sure it's sturdy Tough, we have one at my gym and it's great but not all are built the same. I used one that wasn't very sturdy and it defeated the purpose.

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

You might think about a diet then....I'm 254 and it never broke when I was using it...

Originally Posted by min0 lee

I'm not fat....

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Originally Posted by LexusGS

Tough, I have one of those in my gym in school. Work alright, but they don't go shit on real bent rows imo.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

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I have to admit I do prefer the bentover over these but if you have a bad back they are pretty good.

Originally Posted by P-funk

I don't mind the support row at all.

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Patrick here's my thinking and please respond to this. As I'm getting into higher weight on bent over rows, I find myself standing more upright then Iwant to in order to keep so much pressure off the lower back and then feel like it's not as effective of an exercise.


Tough

Originally Posted by P-funk

I agree. I do my bent over rows as parallel to the floor as I can get. The ROM is so short when you are upright I don't see the point. IMO the yates row is more like a modified shrug then a back exercise. I like the support row. it keeps you locked into a neutral position.

Originally Posted by P-funk

I agree. I do my bent over rows as parallel to the floor as I can get. The ROM is so short when you are upright I don't see the point. IMO the yates row is more like a modified shrug then a back exercise. I like the support row. it keeps you locked into a neutral position.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

You have a point there, lately I have been doing them and I do notice the traps getting bigger along with my upper back.
Aren't they considered part of backs

Originally Posted by P-funk

I agree. I do my bent over rows as parallel to the floor as I can get. The ROM is so short when you are upright I don't see the point. IMO the yates row is more like a modified shrug then a back exercise. I like the support row. it keeps you locked into a neutral position.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I feel you there. That's why I don't do Yates' rows in a really upright position. I just use a supinated grip, but try to stay pretty low. However, I am a bit above parallel for sure, but not 45 degrees or anything.

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

I was the same way, but when the weight started going over 300 lbs, I found myself getting more upright to the point that i figured sooner or later I'd be just about in the position of doing shrugs. This is what I want to avoid. So here comes the machine.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I think chest supported rows are a good exercise. I'm not really arguing against that. I just threw in that comment for whatever reason. I think seated cable rows are great too. I think machines are more useful for rowing variations that a lot of other upper body movements simply because it is easy to cheat on them.

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

I like seated cable rows. My problem is my machine is only rated for 300 lbs and I'm past that weight. I was using them and alternating Bent over rows. So for now until my new machine shows up, I'll do B/O/R and alternate them with deadlifts for the back thickness.

Tough

Originally Posted by CowPimp

Wow, you have a strong ass back. You can get rubber weights that add 5-10 pounds a pop to add on the cable stack though if you like that movement.

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

No that's not it as it is a free weight machine, but only rated at 300 lbs. I could put more on it, but not sure where the rating is. Whether it's the cable or pulleys not sure.

Originally Posted by Carl Nevins

"Head supported bent over rows"

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

These things any good to use for rows? Thinking of buying one today for my home gym.




Thanks tough

Originally Posted by rangers97

I have that exact machine. Bought it from Dick's Sporting Goods online for like $130, and so far so good. I've had it for about 2 months now, of course, I have only gotten up to about 165 pounds on it, but it has held up. It is a bit flimsy, but for $130, you get what you pay for. But I think it should hold AT LEAST 200 pounds of plates with no problems and of course hopefully more.

Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

Oh fuck i hope it holds a hell of a lot more then that or I'll be doing some welding. 200 lbs isn't shit for me on rows. I can lay on my bench and do endless reps with my 100 lb DB's in each hand. I need heavier DB's. Shit they are a fortune at .59 lb plus tax.