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Lifting and Drinking


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Posted by: fletcher6490

Ok, so I went lifting yesterday(leg day) and went out and got hammered last night. My question is whether or not this effects your gains? I'm guessing drinking can't be at all positive.


Posted by: TJ Cline

next question


Posted by: fletcher6490

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules
next question
Thanks for the info Foreman.


Posted by: TJ Cline

Ok, so I went lifting yesterday(leg day) and went out and smoked crack and dropped acid last night. My question is whether or not this effects your gains? I'm guessing drinking can't be at all positive.


Posted by: fletcher6490

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Ok, so I went lifting yesterday(leg day) and went out and smoked crack and dropped acid last night. My question is whether or not this effects your gains? I'm guessing drinking can't be at all positive.
HAHA

I wish that was what I did last night. Sounds like you know how to have fun Foreman.


Posted by: vinceforheismen

why do u have to be an idot. Why cant you answer questions.


Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Ok, so I went lifting yesterday(leg day) and went out and smoked crack and dropped acid last night. My question is whether or not this effects your gains? I'm guessing drinking can't be at all positive.
At least crack and acid don't have 8 calories per gram.


Posted by: P-funk

do a search. it has been discussed here many times. alcohol and training don't mix. Obviously people like to drink and have a well rounded life so you have to find moderation in it if you want to live a healthy life and make gains from your hard training. Me personally...I just gave it up all together...but I am a bit extreme.


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by vinceforheismen
why do u have to be an idot. Why cant you answer questions.
Fuck You


Posted by: Mudge

It absolutely does, for a period of 24 hours or greater.


Posted by: fletcher6490

Ok, i'll do a search. I didn't realize it has been discussed so many times.


Posted by: TJ Cline

Look up Antidiuretic Hormone (Vasopressin) then you will understand how evil alcohol is.


Posted by: CowPimp

I can't remember all the negative effects of alcohol, but I do recall that it decreases protein synthesis.


Posted by: Tough Old Man

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Originally Posted by CowPimp
I can't remember all the negative effects of alcohol, but I do recall that it decreases protein synthesis.
Neverless does a hangover make you not want to workout the next day. I'm always weaker if I tie one on and have to workout the next day.

Glad I only drink 6 days a week. I seemingly looked in the mirror and saw foremanrules in it.


Posted by: diablomex

you know what,im not saying what you guys are saying isn't true.but i use to drink everyday and workout everyday. i never really had that problem.i went from around 190 lbs to around 265 lbs in 3 yrs.i know my livers proabably is suffering some.but i got checked out 2 yrs ago and everything was fine.since everything was fine all i got is a lecture from the doc.anyways,let me stay on track.like i said .i still got big and happy with the results.i gave it up a little while back,cause i promised myself that i wasnt gonna get a beer belly.and i don't.but i felt like maybe it was getting near to getting the begining of one. just keep in moderation,and you should be cool.looking thru sober eyes 247 is a boring world.once in a while ,will keep you straight.good luck on everything


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablomex
you know what,im not saying what you guys are saying isn't true.but i use to drink everyday and workout everyday. i never really had that problem.i went from around 190 lbs to around 265 lbs in 3 yrs.i know my livers proabably is suffering some.but i got checked out 2 yrs ago and everything was fine.since everything was fine all i got is a lecture from the doc.anyways,let me stay on track.like i said .i still got big and happy with the results.i gave it up a little while back,cause i promised myself that i wasnt gonna get a beer belly.and i don't.but i felt like maybe it was getting near to getting the begining of one. just keep in moderation,and you should be cool.looking thru sober eyes 247 is a boring world.once in a while ,will keep you straight.good luck on everything
Easy to do with steroids.....just think how much better and healthier you would have been if you didn't drink.


Posted by: diablomex

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Easy to do with steroids.....just think how much better and healthier you would have been if you didn't drink.
ay , bro.never did steriods.i hear you on the rest though


Posted by: CowPimp

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Originally Posted by diablomex
ay , bro.never did steriods.i hear you on the rest though
Maybe you would've been bigger and stronger if you didn't, or you would have been leaner at the same weight? That doesn't really prove much of anything...


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablomex
ay , bro.never did steriods.i hear you on the rest though
You must have been a really really fat guy at 265...or 6'6+


Posted by: diablomex

Quote:
Originally Posted by CowPimp
Maybe you would've been bigger and stronger if you didn't, or you would have been leaner at the same weight? That doesn't really prove much of anything...
you know what,im not trying not to prove anything.and i dont have to.my bodies pretty tight at 265 lbs.im not fat,the midsection needs some work but that been in the works for a long time already.and,on the last thing i dont think,that i would've been bigger and stronger if i didn't drink or not.never been a sloppy drinker,and always knew what i was doing .think about it.how could i made it this long lifting,if i didnt know what i was doing . if i didnt, i would've been dead a long time ago.anyways,does'nt matter anymore.i don't drink like that anymore.now its once in a while. now its all good


Posted by: diablomex

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
You must have been a really really fat guy at 265...or 6'6+
im 5'10.im 265 right now.and im not fat. i cant explain,how my progress happened,all i can say is i've been working out over 3 yrs.and i workout almost everyday


Posted by: Squaggleboggin

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablomex
you know what,im not trying not to prove anything.and i dont have to.my bodies pretty tight at 265 lbs.im not fat,the midsection needs some work but that been in the works for a long time already.and,on the last thing i dont think,that i would've been bigger and stronger if i didn't drink or not.never been a sloppy drinker,and always knew what i was doing .think about it.how could i made it this long lifting,if i didnt know what i was doing . if i didnt, i would've been dead a long time ago.anyways,does'nt matter anymore.i don't drink like that anymore.now its once in a while. now its all good
That doesn't even make sense. All he was saying is: the fact you were drinking while making those gains doesn't mean it didn't affect you.


Posted by: diablomex

relax,youngster.i know what he was saying.


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablomex
im 5'10.im 265 right now.and im not fat. i cant explain,how my progress happened,all i can say is i've been working out over 3 yrs.and i workout almost everyday
So you are 100% natural...about the same height as Sergio and 35 pounds bigger than he was ( and he used steroids) .....please son that is a joke...









Post your pics son and show us how much bigger you are at 5'10 and 265 100% drug free....than the Sergio was at 5'10 on steroids, and only 225



Posted by: musclepump

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-funk
do a search. it has been discussed here many times. alcohol and training don't mix. Obviously people like to drink and have a well rounded life so you have to find moderation in it if you want to live a healthy life and make gains from your hard training. Me personally...I just gave it up all together...but I am a bit extreme.
Agreed. I just don't drink anymore; isn't worth it.


Posted by: P-funk

Quote:
Originally Posted by musclepump
Agreed. I just don't drink anymore; isn't worth it.

Oh, I didn't give up drinking. I gave up weightlifting.


Posted by: diablomex

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
So you are 100% natural...about the same height as Sergio and 35 pounds bigger than he was ( and he used steroids) .....please son that is a joke...









Post your pics son and show us how much bigger you are at 5'10 and 265 100% drug free....than the Sergio was at 5'10 on steroids, and only 225
im not cut up like that,and never claimed i was


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablomex
im not cut up like that,and never claimed i was
You claim to be 40lbs bigger than Sergio.......so if you are not fat you would be 230-240 cut up...and 100% natural...post those pics son.


Posted by: diablomex

i never claimed to be or to look like those people.im going for my own look
im going to be big,but i dont want to get crazy cut up like those guys.and im not looking for a sixpack.but close enough is cool for me.i dont know how to quite explain it.


Posted by: diablomex

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
You claim to be 40lbs bigger than Sergio.......so if you are not fat you would be 230-240 cut up...and 100% natural...post those pics son.
thats not true and you know that, you just want to see me.and i dont do pics not that they wont turn out cool.i just dont like taking pics


Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by diablomex
thats not true and you know that, you just want to see me.and i dont do pics not that they wont turn out cool.i just dont like taking pics
You are 175 and pudgy son....I know it and most here will come to know it....Post a pic or you only prove you are a fat ass or a geek pretending to have a build


Posted by: diablomex

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
You are 175 and pudgy son....I know it and most here will come to know it....Post a pic or you only prove you are a fat ass or a geek pretending to have a build
i got old pic on myspace.com look that up i was proabably around 230 or so.
pr35120myspace.com.if you wanna see so bad


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablomex
i got old pic on myspace.com look that up i was proabably around 230 or so.
pr35120myspace.com.if you wanna see so bad
Hey If I claimed to have 21 inch cold natural arms at 5'11'' then I would expect people to call me on it......and if it were true I would love to prove them wrong


Posted by: diablomex

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Hey If I claimed to have 21 inch cold natural arms at 5'11'' then I would expect people to call me on it......and if it were true I would love to prove them wrong
im 30 yrs old, i dont care if you believe me or not.i told you where to go if you wanna see me. i dont come on these sites to be bull...ting. i need help and advice once in a while too.so i wouldnt lie to anyone about myself.if i did i wouldnt get the proper advice from the people that helped me.im sorry if you dont believe it,thats your problem.i dont like taking pics,thats my thing.thats why i only got 2 ,on my space.com,or anywhere else.


Posted by: TJ Cline

Just another poser....or really really fat guy...big surprise.


Posted by: diablomex

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Just another poser....or really really fat guy...big surprise.
your such big talker lets see your then


Posted by: diablomex

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablomex
your such big talker lets see your then
poser check all my threads on b.b.com.muthaf...er


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablomex
your such big talker lets see your then
I have a pic in my gallery from 5 weeks ago....about 245 and 16% BF...I will be posting more in the next 3-4 weeks.

Looking forward to when you post your pics in your gallery.


Posted by: fletcher6490

Boy this thread is going really well.


Posted by: diablomex

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
I have a pic in my gallery from 5 weeks ago....about 245 and 16% BF...I will be posting more in the next 3-4 weeks.

Looking forward to when you post your pics in your gallery.
post one up then


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablomex
post one up then



Posted by: diablomex

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
nice but thats not a real pic poser .


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablomex
nice but thats not a real pic poser .
Yes it's just an arm....Like I said I will post some other pics in 3-4 weeks.


Posted by: diablomex

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Yes it's just an arm....Like I said I will post some other pics in 3-4 weeks.
im not a poser, how about we live it alone.and be cool


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablomex
im not a poser, how about we live it alone.and be cool
Post a pic and we cool


Posted by: diablomex

[quote=ForemanRules]Post a pic and we cool [/QUeven

even if i wanted too, i dont got any.i think your just jealous of me. i don't know why,but thats the only thing i can think of.whats so hard to believe bro.seriously.good eating and working out hard ,almost everyday.thats my routine.


Posted by: diablomex

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this is my a last year


Posted by: diablomex

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Originally Posted by diablomex
Attachment 21912
this is my a last year
that was me around 230 lbs


Posted by: TJ Cline

Nothing comes up.....you can host it here if you have it saved to your computer


http://filehost.to/


Posted by: diablomex

done


Posted by: diablomex

http://www2.filehost.to/files/2006-0...icture_010.jpg


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablomex
good build


Posted by: diablomex

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
good build
ya,that was last year . towards the end of last year i weighed 255lbs. then i did x-factor and some good whey.,i gained 10 lbs.now im cycling ax gain cycle kit


Posted by: diablomex

you didnt believe me.you know ,people like us are never satisfied on how we look.we look so much in the mirror,we dont realize how good we look or thatwe're getting where we wanna be at.thats why i dont like taking pics.im never satisfied


Posted by: fletcher6490

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablomex
ya,that was last year . towards the end of last year i weighed 255lbs. then i did x-factor and some good whey.,i gained 10 lbs.now im cycling ax gain cycle kit

Are you guys friends now!!!


Posted by: diablomex

i hope so,i told him i wasn't bullsh..ing


Posted by: Adamjs

Quote:
Originally Posted by fletcher6490
Are you guys friends now!!!
I was wondering the same thing. It all sort of fizzled out. There wasn't even any threats of violence


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by fletcher6490
Are you guys friends now!!!
Yes but we are not your friend


Posted by: TJ Cline

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamjs
I was wondering the same thing. It all sort of fizzled out. There wasn't even any threats of violence
I will kill you for saying that .


Posted by: higney85

I love the saying "everything in moderation" getting plastered is beyond moderation. Doc's proclaim that red wine is good for you in terms of a glass every few days. Beer tastes good and personally a jack and coke every once in a while makes me feel at ease. So is alcohol hurtful- sure, but so is so much other crap that we do without realizing it. So drinking maybe a couple times a month and only getting hammered one night out of the month at the strip club with your buddies won't kill your gains for a year, but don't expect to have a good workout of feel your greatest the day after. I say this coming from the aspect of good fitness and working out for your own sanity and well being. I do not powerlift or bodybuild for anyone but myself and my fiance... So I guess it depends where your goals are. I like moderation cause it keeps me sane!


Posted by: fletcher6490

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
Yes but we are not your friend
That hurts, that hurts real bad.


Posted by: Adamjs

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForemanRules
I will kill you for saying that .
Much better


Posted by: joesmooth20

it's really a dubbled edged sword if your single, if you don't ever drink= harder to pick up chicks and get laid. If you keep messing up your training by drinking, you won't look nearly as good= harder to pick up chicks and get laid.


Posted by: Biggzy

Foreman is cool


Posted by: PWGriffin

Drinking in excess of 2-3 drinks more than twice weekly slows down metabolism, lowers natural testosterone levels..is hard on the liver (important for us who use AAS) and has a bunch of completely empty cals...

I might drink a LITTLE every once in a while....at one time I quit completely and didn't miss it...it just sucks when you go out with ur friends and everybody's like "WHY AREN'T YOU DRINKING?!?!" and they're all having a great time...


Posted by: bigss75

Another side effect I have learned about drinking is you get to drunk the next day you'll puke your guts out and totally mess up your back. Thats a reason to swear it off right there


Posted by: fletcher6490

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigss75
Another side effect I have learned about drinking is you get to drunk the next day you'll puke your guts out and totally mess up your back. Thats a reason to swear it off right there

If you have any sort of tollerance to alcohol, I think you will be ok the following day. Unless you're what is known as a "2 beer queer", or you're 13.


Posted by: bigss75

Quote:
Originally Posted by fletcher6490
If you have any sort of tollerance to alcohol, I think you will be ok the following day. Unless you're what is known as a "2 beer queer", or you're 13.
Or you don't know moderation and finished half a handle in a night.


Posted by: fletcher6490

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigss75
Or you don't know moderation and finished half a handle in a night.

Haha,

Sounds like me. It's that damn moderation thing, I just can't figure it out.



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