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Trap Bar vs. straight bar for deadlifts

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Posted by: sharkattack

Do any of you guys use a Trap Bar (or something similar) for your deadlifts? I've been reading a fair bit about them in the various Stuart McRobert books that I have and it seems like it is a good idea. You can concentrate fully on pulling the weight up rather than sliding it along your shins/thighs. I'm aware that guys who powerlift in contests or are hardcore powerlifters might scoff at the Trap Bar, but for a 'regular Joe' trainer (who's 6'2") who likes to deadlift I was thinking of investing in one of these.

If you guys have any experience with any sort of Trap Bar (there are a couple of different designs, but the idea is the same-you stand in the 'middle' of the deadlift) please post.

Thanks for your help.

S.



Posted by: P-funk

I defenitly love the trap bar. The pull is much more like a squat as you can sit up more inside of it then you can when you have to pull a BB. Defenitly good to mix up the training and keep things fresh. trap bar gets two thumbs up.



Posted by: sharkattack

Thanks for the quick reply. What style have you used, the diamond shaped one or the octagonal one? The one thing that I'm a little concerned about is the inability to vary your grip since it's going to be dictated by the fixed handles. I'm going to look at one this weekend, but before I spend the money on one I'd like to get some help/info from folks like you who have more experience with them than I do.

Cheers,
S.



Posted by: min0 lee

Trap bar "Farmers Walk" around block.







Posted by: min0 lee

I was looking for a pic to post and I found this, pretty interesting way to also get a grip workout.



Posted by: P-funk

Quote:
Originally Posted by sharkattack
Thanks for the quick reply. What style have you used, the diamond shaped one or the octagonal one? The one thing that I'm a little concerned about is the inability to vary your grip since it's going to be dictated by the fixed handles. I'm going to look at one this weekend, but before I spend the money on one I'd like to get some help/info from folks like you who have more experience with them than I do.

Cheers,
S.

I have used the octagon one.

there is only one grip that you are able to use and that is a neutral grip. What were you expecting or trying to do with it?



Posted by: sharkattack

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-funk
What were you expecting or trying to do with it?
Actually, I just started deadlifts as part of my program. I'm looking at learning as much as I can about the deadlift since it will be a staple in my bag of exercises.



Posted by: P-funk

Quote:
Originally Posted by sharkattack
Actually, I just started deadlifts as part of my program. I'm looking at learning as much as I can about the deadlift since it will be a staple in my bag of exercises.

well, trap bar is really great. it is a good compliment to both the deadlift and the squat.



Posted by: CowPimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-funk
well, trap bar is really great. it is a good compliment to both the deadlift and the squat.
I would love see them put one in at my gym. I've never had the opportunity to use one before.



Posted by: Dale Mabry

Trap bar is awesome.



Posted by: P-funk

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Originally Posted by CowPimp
I would love see them put one in at my gym. I've never had the opportunity to use one before.
when you work at a gym that sucks you need to just get and bring your own shit. At my gym they didn't have one so my buddy was like "fuck it...I'll buy one." So, now we have one. A trap bar at performbetter.com wil run ya about $250 (i think...maybe cheaper) and I think it is even cheaper at newyorkbarbell.com.



Posted by: CowPimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-funk
when you work at a gym that sucks you need to just get and bring your own shit. At my gym they didn't have one so my buddy was like "fuck it...I'll buy one." So, now we have one. A trap bar at performbetter.com wil run ya about $250 (i think...maybe cheaper) and I think it is even cheaper at newyorkbarbell.com.
Hah, that's never gonna happen.



Posted by: P-funk

Quote:
Originally Posted by CowPimp
Hah, that's never gonna happen.
well....then find a new gym.

I mean honestly. Just start stock piliing shit like that so that some day you will be able to have a gym in your garage. then you wont have to go to the gym anymore and you will alredy have some quality equiptment.



Posted by: Dale Mabry

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-funk
when you work at a gym that sucks you need to just get and bring your own shit. At my gym they didn't have one so my buddy was like "fuck it...I'll buy one." So, now we have one. A trap bar at performbetter.com wil run ya about $250 (i think...maybe cheaper) and I think it is even cheaper at newyorkbarbell.com.

Every gym I have worked at I have brought some of my own shit. It is actually good for scrounging up clients too. I had some plyo equipment that I brought to my last gym and would only let my clients use it.



Posted by: min0 lee

Most gym's allow you to bring your own tools of the trade, but it's best to have it engraved.



Posted by: P-funk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
Every gym I have worked at I have brought some of my own shit. It is actually good for scrounging up clients too. I had some plyo equipment that I brought to my last gym and would only let my clients use it.
yup, I bring my stuff for my clients....bands, tubing for lateral walks, tennis balls for SMFR on the foot and for doing accleration speed work...etc....



Posted by: CowPimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-funk
well....then find a new gym.

I mean honestly. Just start stock piliing shit like that so that some day you will be able to have a gym in your garage. then you wont have to go to the gym anymore and you will alredy have some quality equiptment.
Sadly, this is about the closest to a lifter's gym around the way. The only one I've even been in that has a power cage, and I definitely did my research. A new one is opening in a few months, which I will gladly join if it's better even though I workout at my current one for free because I work there. I do plan on buying some things for a setup like that one day, but I have to start small. The first thing I need is a fucking dip belt. The next thing I need is some grip training tools. Those are more reasonable in terms of cost.

Another one just opened recently, but its a suit and tie club so to speak. They have one goddamned squat rack, it's not adjustable, and I guarantee every douche bag fucker that goes in there curls in it. I don't want to have to kill 140 pound guys working out in casual dress clothes.

Goddammit I hate paying for school myself; money sucks. I'm just going to be a weightlifting monk.



Posted by: P-funk

Quote:
Originally Posted by CowPimp
Sadly, this is about the closest to a lifter's gym around the way. The only one I've even been in that has a power cage, and I definitely did my research. A new one is opening in a few months, which I will gladly join if it's better even though I workout at my current one for free because I work there. I do plan on buying some things for a setup like that one day, but I have to start small. The first thing I need is a fucking dip belt. The next thing I need is some grip training tools. Those are more reasonable in terms of cost.

Another one just opened recently, but its a suit and tie club so to speak. They have one goddamned squat rack, it's not adjustable, and I guarantee every douche bag fucker that goes in there curls in it. I don't want to have to kill 140 pound guys working out in casual dress clothes.

Goddammit I hate paying for school myself; money sucks. I'm just going to be a weightlifting monk.

yea, I hear ya. Money is a bitch.

well, poor mans trap bar.....dumbells.



Posted by: Dale Mabry

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-funk
yea, I hear ya. Money is a bitch.

well, poor mans trap bar.....dumbells.

You could use tape to make the full structure around the dumbbells so no one will know you are brokeass.



Posted by: P-funk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
You could use tape to make the full structure around the dumbbells so no one will know you are brokeass.
just make sure it is duct tape. it tends to stick together better when making the poor mans trap bar.



Posted by: CowPimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-funk
yea, I hear ya. Money is a bitch.

well, poor mans trap bar.....dumbells.
Yeah, I guess I don't do DB deadlifts enough. I wonder if 120s are even enough.



Posted by: P-funk

Quote:
Originally Posted by CowPimp
Yeah, I guess I don't do DB deadlifts enough. I wonder if 120s are even enough.

120s should be plenty. DB deadlifts are a lot harder then you think. THey are harder then the trap bar, IMO, because of the independant loading. You really have to stabalize and watch your movement to get in a good position to drive up because it is very easy to turn it into more of an RDL then to actually try and sit more upright like you do in the trap bar.



Posted by: Tough Old Man

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-funk
when you work at a gym that sucks you need to just get and bring your own shit. At my gym they didn't have one so my buddy was like "fuck it...I'll buy one." So, now we have one. A trap bar at performbetter.com wil run ya about $250 (i think...maybe cheaper) and I think it is even cheaper at newyorkbarbell.com.
There $129 form Newyorkbarbell.



Posted by: P-funk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tough Old Man
There $129 form Newyorkbarbell.

oh damn!! I didn't think they were that cheap! that is a steal.



Posted by: CowPimp

Quote:
Originally Posted by P-funk
120s should be plenty. DB deadlifts are a lot harder then you think. THey are harder then the trap bar, IMO, because of the independant loading. You really have to stabalize and watch your movement to get in a good position to drive up because it is very easy to turn it into more of an RDL then to actually try and sit more upright like you do in the trap bar.
I mean I kind of know about them because I have to do them in between sets of farmer's walks. I'm probably just underestimating the fatigue that will build over the set, and over a few sets with timed rest intervals.



Posted by: carlito cool

I much rather trap then straight anyday



Posted by: yellowmoomba

Trap Bar deads are a great addition to deadlifting and squatting. You should be able to pull more with trap bar deads than regular deads.



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