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Posted by: camarosuper6

Whats up guys...

A question.

I have a good number of M1-T and Methyl-D leftover from a year back or so.... if I were to combine either one of these with say... Test -E ... which one would be the intellgent choice?

Thanks

Posted by: kicka19

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Originally Posted by camarosuper6

Whats up guys...

A question.

I have a good number of M1-T and Methyl-D leftover from a year back or so.... if I were to combine either one of these with say... Test -E ... which one would be the intellgent choice?

Thanks

I dont see why not, its just like using any other oral to jumpstart a cycle

Posted by: camarosuper6

Well... thats what I figured.

However, I wasnt really sure if their was any kind of odd interaction between 1-test and Test-E? Seeing that some anabolics seem to not mix well (due to heavy supression, etc), I was curious if any of these two would have a similar effect combined?

Posted by: Pirate!

I would use M1T. 10-20 mg/day, dosing evenly throughout the day. Weeks 1-4. My $0.02.

Posted by: camarosuper6

m1-t doesnt have the same cell respiration issues at Dianabol does it?

Posted by: faller

personally i would add the m-1-t after the test has really kicked in, about weeks 4 or 5 than do the m1t for a couple weeks. m-1-t really shuts me down hard and fast, but the gains are great!!

Posted by: KelJu

DON'T DO IT!!!

If you value your sanity, don't do it.
I am paying the price right now for mixing Test-E with M1T.

My side effects included:
I haven't got 3 hours of quality sleep in over 6 days, and that was even after taking 6 unisomes, 4 alunas, 3mg melantonin, and 5-Htp pills.
My blood pressure went from 120/80 to 150/90. I had to go to the doctor today because I was started to go a little crazy from lack of sleep.
The lack of sleep destroyed 2 weeks worth of gains I had made before stacking the M1T.

I am nto saying this will happen to you, but there is a chance. If I had it to do all over again I would have threw these fucking pills in the trash. Now I know why they were fucking give to me.

Posted by: faller

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Originally Posted by KelJu

DON'T DO IT!!!

If you value your sanity, don't do it.
I am paying the price right now for mixing Test-E with M1T.

My side effects included:
I haven't got 3 hours of quality sleep in over 6 days, and that was even after taking 6 unisomes, 4 alunas, 3mg melantonin, and 5-Htp pills.
My blood pressure went from 120/80 to 150/90. I had to go to the doctor today because I was started to go a little crazy from lack of sleep.
The lack of sleep destroyed 2 weeks worth of gains I had made before stacking the M1T.

I am nto saying this will happen to you, but there is a chance. If I had it to do all over again I would have threw these fucking pills in the trash. Now I know why they were fucking give to me.

and just how much were you takeing?? judgeing by what you take just to get some sleep i suspect you like to live by the moto "more is better".

Posted by: Tha Don

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Originally Posted by KelJu

oh dear, and i guess this is all the m1t's fault? hello! m1t is just another testosterone derivative just like all other steroids, if the androgenic side effects are proving too much to handle maybe you should try cutting back on the dose a little?

Posted by: Tha Don

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I would use M1T. 10-20 mg/day, dosing evenly throughout the day. Weeks 1-4. My $0.02.

either that, or use in the gap between last shots and pct

another way i've heard running it is to cycle 2 weeks on/2 weeks off throughout, not that i'm recommending that but seemed like an interesting approach

Posted by: KelJu

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Originally Posted by faller

and just how much were you taking?? Judging by what you take just to get some sleep I suspect you like to live by the motto "more is better".

Not really. I was only taking 500mg of enanthate per week. I was doing great at this level, but the second day after adding 10mg of M1T per day to my cycle, all hell broke lose.

I know that I am in the small majority of people that have adverse reactions to M1T, but I still wanted to include my experience with M1T.

My motto isn't more is better; I was just desperate for sleep at that point.

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Originally Posted by Tha Don

oh dear, and I guess this is all the m1t's fault? hello! m1t is just another testosterone derivative just like all other steroids, if the androgenic side effects are proving too much to handle maybe you should try cutting back on the dose a little?

I came across many post made by people on this board and other boards who went threw the exact same thing I did. Basically everyone said that 2 days after they stopped the M1T, their sleep cycle went back to normal. Well sure enough, 2 days after I stopped taking it, I could sleep again. That is pretty fucking conclusive that the addition of the M1T is what caused this.

This was all with the recommended dosage. I am not the only person this has happened to. Many others have had to stop the M1T while using enanthate, because of this exact same problem.
My question to you is have you ever stacked them? I am speaking from first hand experience. I would like to know how you are making your assumptions.

Posted by: faller

i agree with you kelju, the odd thing bout m1t is how differently it reacts to people. i know guys who have taken as much as 50mg ed with no adverse affects and yet others who crashed at 10 mg. that is why one can get such strong reactions from people who have taken it.

to answer your question no i haven't stacked it with anything yet. i'm takeing andropen (another compound where guy's have strong opinions on) and plan to stack it with m1t. but haveing taken m1t before i will not take it for more than 3 wks.and nothing higher than 10mgs.

sleeping was never a problem for me since it does make me kinda lethargic, but who knows, maybe stacking it might change that.

Posted by: Tha Don

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Originally Posted by KelJu

Basically everyone said that 2 days after they stopped the M1T, their sleep cycle went back to normal. Well sure enough, 2 days after I stopped taking it, I could sleep again. That is pretty fucking conclusive that the addition of the M1T is what caused this.

i never said m1t didn't cause it

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This was all with the recommended dosage. I am not the only person this has happened to. Many others have had to stop the M1T while using enanthate, because of this exact same problem.
My question to you is have you ever stacked them? I am speaking from first hand experience. I would like to know how you are making your assumptions.

thats because m1t is a VERY powerful steroid, its like tren causes sleep problems too, why? because its very androgenic, as is m1t, if you can't handle the side effects of highly androgenic compounds like that then as i said in my first post; drop the dose (or just avoid them in future), don't go around slagging them off, results from m1t have been very impressive for a lot of people

Posted by: KelJu

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Originally Posted by Tha Don

Which is exactly why I said in my original post:

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Originally Posted by KelJu

I am nto saying this will happen to you, but there is a chance. If I had it to do all over again I would have threw these fucking pills in the trash. Now I know why they were fucking give to me.

I planly stated that this could be a rare thing, but I still wish someone had warned me about this reaction. It destroyed 2 weeks worth of hard gains, and now I am having to make up the lost time.

Posted by: dg806

Lmao!

Posted by: Pirate!

I feel like elevated blood pressure causes sleep problems, personally. I would use M1T to jumpstart or wind down to pct, not while Test levels are high. The pumps would be insane.

Posted by: faller

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

The pumps would be insane.

shit you're right, i forget about the pump, ya they would be insane!!

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