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Your gorilla body is telling that you it don't need to stinkin' steroids to grow monster-like.
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You are probably right. My body is just fine without the gear, but my mind needs it. I think that is the case with all people that do gear who are not competing to win at some sport. I am doing the gear because of my ego. Maybe I will evolve one of these days and just learn to live healthy rather than needing to be the guy that turns heads because of how massive I am.
I wonder how many people really respect people like me. Or, do they just ask themselves how much gear I had to do to look like this. I'm really falling about right now. I don't know what I believe anymore. I just want to eat some pills and go to sleep so I don't have to think about it anymore tonight. |
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Easy, man! I was playfully intimating that you're a beast.
As for the gear, no amount of gear can make you train day after day, and week after week. Gear just provides fuel, but it doesn't do shit make you drive. |
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I wasn't being sarcastic. I was dead serious. I guess it came out the wrong way. You know how an idea gets lost in the translation using written language sometimes.
You said, what I had been thinking all week. I don't need this shit. There is tons more to it, but I just don't even want to go into it right now. |
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I stalled out. I must have cut my calories too much because my weight lose stopped, and my strength has dropped dramatically. The only thing I know to do is bump my calories up substantially as an emergency action.
All I know is when something stops working, do something else. once I get things moving again, I will drop the calories, just not quite so much. I hate thta I am spending all this money on gear that is being wasted by my dumb diet decisions. I am almost to the point where I want to give up my cut. I am basically at the same point that I always stall out at. Not everyone can lift what I can, so like wise, maybe I just don't have the genetics to have a bard pit body. I am an endomorph. Maybe it is time I stop fighting my nature. I could really have some nice size to me right now if I could get this shit out of my head about looking like a hard body. It is close to wintertime anyway, so who the fuck will see it but me? If I could just cut 2% or 3% more BF I think I could be happy. Then again, I know myself, and I am never truely satisfied with my progress. |
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You are probably right. My body is just fine without the gear, but my mind needs it. I think that is the case with all people that do gear who are not competing to win at some sport. I am doing the gear because of my ego. Maybe I will evolve one of these days and just learn to live healthy rather than needing to be the guy that turns heads because of how massive I am.
I wonder how many people really respect people like me. Or, do they just ask themselves how much gear I had to do to look like this. I'm really falling about right now. I don't know what I believe anymore. I just want to eat some pills and go to sleep so I don't have to think about it anymore tonight. |
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how often are you straying from your diet? are you doing cheat meals or cheat day? what kind of cardio are you doing? you can get your bf down, maybe you just need to switch something up
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My thinking is that my goal is to get shot down 50 times and learn something from all 50 rejections. That way, even if I lose, I still win.
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Advanced NLP field research.
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Dude ... that sounds like great book makings
Advanced NLP field research. |
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Carbs did the trick. I guess my body's glycogen stores were completely empty. I thought I had lost muscle, btu when I carbed up, all of my strength and more came back. The body really is a weird machine. I guess I will go back to cutting and when I start feeling like shit again, I'll carb up. I could just do an all out calorie surplus carb day every 4 days. I remember in the stickies they were called refeeds.
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you will 'grow' into the weight. your on aas right now, and your tendons dont respond as fast as your muscles do. just give it time, and once the rest of your body catches up, then you can up the weight.
i would also take lots of vit c. it plays a key role in collagen synthesis, and will help your tendons heal/adapt much faster. like 5000-10000mg a day |
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you will 'grow' into the weight. your on aas right now, and your tendons dont respond as fast as your muscles do. just give it time, and once the rest of your body catches up, then you can up the weight.
i would also take lots of vit c. it plays a key role in collagen synthesis, and will help your tendons heal/adapt much faster. like 5000-10000mg a day |
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do cable crunches.. with a rope and put a stretching mat on the floor. kneel on it and crunch your head down until it touches the floor
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Thursday - 9/20/07
Push Day / 3-5 Range Bench Press: (2m RI) Set 1: 135 x 5 Set 2: 225 x 5 Set 3: 275 x 5 Set 4: 315 x 5 Standing Barbell Military Press: (2m RI) Set 1: 115 x 5 Set 2: 135 x 5 Set 3: 185 x 5 Weighted Dips: (2m RI) Set 1: 45 x 5 Set 2: 90 x 5 Set 3: 150 x 8 *PR Ok, something is weird when I am weighted dipping as much as I am vertical pressing. Cable Rope Push-Downs: (2m RI) Set 1: 80 x 5 Set 2: 100 x 6 Set 3: 100 x 8 *PR Seated Hip Raise Crunch: (2m RI) Set 1: 100 x 5 Set 2: 120 x 5 Set 3: 130 x 5 Weighted Crunches: (2m RI) Set 1: BW+40 x 12 Set 2: BW+40 x 12 Set 3: BW+40 x 12 I can't add more weight to the weighted crunches, because the peg only holds 4 10lb weights. I need to switch to the decline bench, and grap a 45 plate to do these, but even then I won't be able to hold more than one 45 plate. As far as my workout goes, I am happy as hell. My bench press power came back in only two weeks, after a 2 month break to let my shoulder heal. Maybe this time I will be able to get to 405. With my new split, I will have a little more resting time in between heavy bench press days. My triceps are exploding. Even with a high BF%, my arms are looking mean as fuck. They are pretty close to 20 inches right now. I need to start cutting again, now that I made some nice gains. I'll never be able to hold onto this size when I come off of the AS, so cutting is the only sensible thing to do. |
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Your a strong sonabitch thats why. You ever considered doing a powerlifitng comp?
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I would suck! I'm tall, and my joints couldn't hold up to straight powerlifting.
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Dont you go and knock yourself down your benching 315X5 and squatting 400+ at 200bw?
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Well you have to do something with that colossal body of yours!
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I guess with the AS, I can mess up a little and still hold strong in the gym. It is really going to suck coming off of this cycle knowing it will be a long time before I can order now that so many suppliers got busted, plus I'm broke, plus my body needs a break to recover from the gear, plus finals will be here in no time, plus I'll be graduating and moving to who knows where, plus I am dangerously low on my medication and I don't have $500 to get it refilled. If I don't get my medication refilled, I will not be able to sleep and my life will go spiraling down the shitter again. I am trying so hard to mange my life so that I stay on top of things, but I am just getting nailed from every direction.
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Blink and you miss it. Pressure pressure nudge nudge ...
Hey where would you train there? What's the name of the place? |
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I think you'd be better in WWF, you could call yourself the " Caveman", or "The Gorilla".
Depending on which WWF you are speaking about. |
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As it stands now, I might be moving to Atlanta, GA. I have no idea what training facilities they have there.
I got a job offer at in IT company there who are looking for young people coming out of college so they can train me in a specialization. The money sucks, but the experience is invaluable. |
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As it stands now, I might be moving to Atlanta, GA. I have no idea what training facilities they have there.
I got a job offer at in IT company there who are looking for young people coming out of college so they can train me in a specialization. The money sucks, but the experience is invaluable. |
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Originally Posted by PreMier
more energy is wasted on things we cant control than anything else. they are outside of your circle of influence, so dont worry about it. focus on those things, and only those that you can control
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Hey I'm originally from Georgia! You'll love it there houses are cheap, low taxes, people are very nice, and lots of things to do.
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Yep, in the lower lumbar area. I deadlifted for a long time, and made it all the way up to 415, then started having back pain. Now it is every time I deadlift. I may have a bulging disc that is ready to pop. Once that happens it's usually game over.
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— Mike BoyleTo the Testosterone crowd, this is the heresy they hate to hear. Many of the readers are in a constant state of denial. They don't want education, they want validation and reinforcement that what they're already doing is the "best" route.

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man, now my back hurts too....no seriously, it does, but then again, it might have to do with deadlifting every 4 days for the past 2 weeks
The problem for me is that, when I am finished with a deadlifting session, I feel some discomfort in my lower back region, not so much a pain, just mostly a discomfort, but it seems to be centered in my back, which obviously tells me it is not muscle related. However, the discomfort is usually gone by the following morning, and by the 4th day, my back feels fine, so I go at it again. Now, is this a normal occurance with a heavy deadlift session, or am I heading toward a serious back injury at some undetermined point down the road? Maybe I should switch to sumo deads, I know the times I have done them, I have felt less stress on my lower back than with conventionals. Or maybe I should just not deadlift every 4 days like an idiot |
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Dude, that is the same thing I am going through. It hurts ot get in and out of my car today, but I will be fine tomorrow. Sometimes it hurts for 2 or 3 days when I really mess it up.
Sumo-deadlifts help some, but not much. We will never be competitive power lifters, so why do we risk it? |
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The answer lies in your previous post....NUMBERS, and to say we can do it. Like my journal title, My Quest for 405, I always wanted to bench press 4 plates per side. I am not a powerlifter, I dabled in it for a little while, and thought about pursuing some competitions, but I don't do that now, and don't have the time or energy to do it now, so the question is WHY?
Damn ego is a very powerful thing, but you know what else is a culprit too? The internet. I never ever had an injury or semi injury until I started reading everything on the internet. Of course, I didn't know what the hell I was doing, but I guess you can argue that I still don't know what the hell I am doing if I am causing myself discomfort from something supposed to better my life, but the overwhelming amount of knowledge out there just screws with you sometimes I think. |
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man, now my back hurts too....no seriously, it does, but then again, it might have to do with deadlifting every 4 days for the past 2 weeks
The problem for me is that, when I am finished with a deadlifting session, I feel some discomfort in my lower back region, not so much a pain, just mostly a discomfort, but it seems to be centered in my back, which obviously tells me it is not muscle related. However, the discomfort is usually gone by the following morning, and by the 4th day, my back feels fine, so I go at it again. Now, is this a normal occurance with a heavy deadlift session, or am I heading toward a serious back injury at some undetermined point down the road? |
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Tuesday - 10/2/07
I am still having back pain after deadlifts. I just don't know what to do about it. Should I just give up on them? Back problems run in my family, and maybe my back can't handle the stress. I sure would hate to fuck myself up, and pain is a sign that a fuck-up is on its way if I don't change something. Maybe I should just lower the weight. Do you guys have any suggestions? |
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For me it was a rest period and a return with a less aggressive lifting routine on my arms. I tore a bi and it sucked. When i came back I just didn't get so crazy with my weights and worked through the lower numbers more slowly 'til eventually I got passed my old limits. Now I'm way stronger then I was when I was injured. In 2004 I could not even consider lifting then what I lift now.
You've been tearing through the numbers with a fierceness brother K. You haven't allowed your body to adjust to what you've done to it. Your drive to get to that next level is respectable, but the body needs to have more to go on then just your own inner motivation. Maybe slowing down and working within one level allowing the tendons and muscles to acclimate for a while before you push it again might help. It did for me. Patience has its rewards:
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I hope you are right. Thanks for showing me a better way to look at things. Maybe in 4 or 5 years I might see that 500lb squat. I'm still young. I think I have time.
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I went to buy soem cloths today, and it was mostly a failed attempt. They just don't make cloths that fit me. ![]() |
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Yeah, try to find womens clothing that the arms are more than pencils.. it's frustrating...
I went to Hollister the other day and couldn't find a single gdamn shirt that I could fit my arms in... ![]() |
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You are in the top .0001% of women when it comes to the size of your guns in comparison to the size of your waist. I bet you have just as much trouble as me finding cloths that fit. Its frustrating.
There should be at least one company that makes cloths for people who are athletic, but still want to be in style. I have the bet luck with skater cloths. |
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i buy most of my stuff from polo and nautica. usually go with cargo jeans because they are bigger and my quads fit in them
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I have a hard time with clothes to. If I buy a polo shirt my arms hang out and I look like I am trying to damn hard. I have been saying f-it lately and just buying tees.
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OMG! 85 lb Bulgarians! Thats sounds like Eastern European torture at its most brutal. Were you forced by the KGB or FSB????
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DBs most certainly have their place.
How long did your workout take? The last 15 minutes or so was ab work, so I'm not sure that you should really count that towards your functional time limit. If you really want to hurt yourself, add some Flys after your DB Presses. With the weight level you train at, you should tear the shit out of your pecs. |
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Originally Posted by DOMS
A very worthy workout, KelJu!
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Thanks, bro. Things are going really good. Where the hell have you been? You know you can post here and at the other forum.
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Bar hopping is a great way to cut it seems, because I checked my weight and I have lost 5lbs. I didn't drink any, but I bought a few packs of cigarettes, because I was nervous as I practiced approaches on women, so I needed something to keep my nerves settled. Now I got this monkey on my back again. Oh well, fuck it!
I'm in a fantastic mood. I had a great time this weekend, and I needed it. I have been couped up in my dorm room too long, and making myself get out and socialize was just what the doctor ordered. And, a cute girl that works at the starbucks that I talk to sometimes gave me her number today. I didn't even ask for it. As I was leaving she passed it to me. Life is good... today life is just too fucking good! |
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DBs most certainly have their place.
How long did your workout take? The last 15 minutes or so was ab work, so I'm not sure that you should really count that towards your functional time limit. If you really want to hurt yourself, add some Flys after your DB Presses. With the weight level you train at, you should tear the shit out of your pecs. A very worthy workout, KelJu! |
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This reminds me of all the bodybuilders wearing clown pants and gay looking shirts lol, there's a reason!
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Look at those crazy numbers!
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KelJu, you shouldn't forgo posting your numbers. No one is going to think less of you. Beside, I'm betting that even after you take a one month bender, you still lift more than I do.
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oh freek.... I was close.....
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My 6 day delaod turned into a month long assault on my health. I didn't touch a weight for a whole month. I ate like total shit, and I started smoking 2 packs of cigarettes everyday. Seems like I am due one of these crashes at least once a year.
But, somebody flipped the switch today. I threw my cigs away, went to wally world and bought good stuff to eat, went to the gym, and went jogging when I got home. I coughed up ton of flem. I imagine the next month will be spent bouncing back, but my goals are different this time. I care not for size or strength. I will work on endurance, cardiovascular health, and overall health. I'm not posting my weight because I am ashamed of what I did to my body over the last month. Tuesday - 10/9/2007 Push Day Flat Bench Press: Standing Barbell Shoulder Press: Dips: Cable Pushdown: Crunches: |
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SO then if you are out for conditioning then now is a perfect time for MMA training K. It's not that expensive. If you tried real MMA training ... not some kind of tai-chi or ken(m)po training but some honest MMA training where you hit the major fighting styles ... you'd be as addicted as I am. There's something primal about matching up with someone and being allowed to legally pound them down then shake hands afterwards.
Regardless of what you do I know you will strive to do your best ... and feel like shit if you don't. Good to see you back at it brother-K. |
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I graduate college in 3 weeks. If the city that I move to for a job has a good MMA school, I plan to get into it.
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KelJu, you shouldn't forgo posting your numbers. No one is going to think less of you. Beside, I'm betting that even after you take a one month bender, you still lift more than I do.
And katt, it's "Trix", not "Kix". |
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I have been offered a few jobs, but both were in cities I have no interest living in. Once I get an offer in a good city, I will PM you the location. You can give me the lowdown on MMA schools in the area.
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Did you get depressed man? Welcome back Big K i wish you the best.
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Good stuff, figured you would get snapped up pretty quickly. Hope you get one that fits the bill perfectly...
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