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KelJu's Master Plan


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Posted by: BigDyl

LAWL, you don't need test if you're putting up numbers like that without strict diet.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
LAWL, you don't need test if you're putting up numbers like that without strict diet.
But I'm a bloated fat pig. I want to keep these numbers while weighing 210.

BTW, how are you gains coming so far? Aren't you in your 4th week?



Posted by: KelJu

Thursday - 01/31/07


10:30am
4oz turkey tender loin
1 cup mixed nuts






Posted by: Bakerboy

turkeykikikakakokotaka



Posted by: Double D

Hey whats the cals and fat on a whole cup if mixed nuts? I normally only eat like 1/4 cup and thats like 17 grams of fat.



Posted by: BigDyl

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
But I'm a bloated fat pig. I want to keep these numbers while weighing 210.

BTW, how are you gains coming so far? Aren't you in your 4th week?
Lawl, I'm on week 0, starting very soon.


I'm a needle virgin though.


Test will add size, but won't nessasarily cut fat--that all depends on diet.



Posted by: KelJu

[quote=KelJu;1556477]Thursday - 01/31/07


1:30pm
8oz baked chicken
1/2 cup pecans

4:30pm
4oz baked chicken
Unknown pastry and some cake

4:30pm
8oz baked chicken



I messed up. I broke down and ate some stuff today that I shouldn't have. Oh well, I will just try and do better tomorrow.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Hey whats the cals and fat on a whole cup if mixed nuts? I normally only eat like 1/4 cup and thats like 17 grams of fat.
71g of fat according to http://www.nal.usda.gov



Posted by: BigDyl

Use calorieking.com



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
Use calorieking.com
Cool stuff, thanks.



Posted by: fufu

calorieking owns.



Posted by: KelJu

Friday - 02/02/07

Weight: 228
Sleep: 9
Skin: 8



7:30am
3 Large Eggs

10:30am
2 & 1/2 cups cottage cheese




Posted by: fufu

That's a ton of cottage cheese. Good job, lol.



Posted by: BigDyl

Cottage Cheese = sodium owned.


btw when your on cycle, don't eat sodium or you'll nuke yourself.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
Cottage Cheese = sodium owned.


btw when your on cycle, don't eat sodium or you'll nuke yourself.
Nuke? What will happen? I better go research sodium intake and AS.



Posted by: KelJu

BTW, I went overboard, and ordered a ton of shit. I don't plan on doing most of it anytime soon, but i wanted to sock up while I had a good connection.



Posted by: BigDyl

Damn dude, you need to research your ass off. This stuff is no joke.


I've been researching for a quite a while, and I have low T levels anyways.


The best a doc could do is put me on HRT which is ghey. I'd rather medicate myself.



Posted by: Double D

So when did you decide to do a cycle?

I will just tell you my own personal experience with it. And this is just mine, not that it happens to everyone. I have done 2 cycles in my life. Each time I got fat after I got off em. This is no joke. I went from 200-230 on my second cycle and I had a good set of abs. Within 2 months I was fat. I dont know why or how, but I was. I kept my cals at maintenence, and I continued to train. Who knows though just my story and why I wont do it again. But I carry bf easily. So my diet has to always be good. BTW after I got fat I busted my ass to lose the weight and in the process I was an idiot and lost my gains I got and was back at square one. Kick myself in the ass for that! But I wish you the best if you do decide to do it. Like BD said research your ass off. This is very serious shit and shouldnt be taken lightly. In case your wondering my first cycle was test enthanate 500mg/week for 12 weeks and dbol 30mg/day for 4 weeks.

Again best of luck.



Posted by: KelJu

BigDyl, Holy shit! Thank you for pointing that out. I know someone who has been fucked up badly by Cushing’s disease which from my reading is a by product of sodium retention which you should know is from steroid use. You got my attention. I am going to research more before I start my cycles, because I have holes in my knowledge apparently.
The guy I know was doing 7 different kinds of injections, and he ate complete garbage. Now he has Cushing’s disease, plus he now weighs about 150lbs down from 220lbs.

DoubleD, I also appreciate your concern. I did the opposite that you did when I took my first cycle. I come down with strept throat than I got depressed because I lost 10 lbs during a cycle then I just stopped working out for 2 months, and shrank to 200lbs. It took me a good 4 months to dig myself out of the whole, so I am very aware of the possible problems that could pop-up during a cycle.

I promise you guys that I will be reading about AS as much as possible for the next few weeks.



Posted by: BigDyl

Yeah well, apparently my first injection went well... but the afterwards part has got me.

I couldn't sleep because apparently Test downregulates dopamine, which causes you to be restless.



Posted by: KelJu

Sunday - 02/04/07

Weight: 227
Sleep: 10
Skin: 8



12:30pm
3 Large Eggs


I slept until 12:00 today, lawl. I rarely sleep late these days, but I took sleeping pills at about 1:00am this morning. I feel great, but I don’t know if I will be able to get to sleep at a decent hour tonight.

I stayed out last night for a while hanging out with friends. I didn't drink, but I smoked 2 cigarettes. I have got to keep myself out of these situations where I can't trust my own will power. I am usually pretty good at doing what I set my mind to, but I got so much going on in my life that I don't always have enough energy to resist temptations.

I threw the rest of the back away this morning.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
Yeah well, apparently my first injection went well... but the afterwards part has got me.

I couldn't sleep because apparently Test downregulates dopamine, which causes you to be restless.

Are you sure it is a dopamine problem and not blood pressure? It could be psychosomatic, because one injection shouldn't even have phased you yet. My sleeping went to shit on my first cycle, even my prescription stuff wasn’t helping. You need some high power stuff to knock you out, but that comes with its own set of risk.

I wish I had some information thta could help you.



Posted by: DOMS

There are some non-prescription things that you can do to improve your sleeping habits.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
There are some non-prescription things that you can do to improve your sleeping habits.
Been there, done that.

That stuff is for people who have normal to semi-normal brain chemistry. I was going 2 and 3 days without sleeping when I was still in high school, and that was without any stimulates what so ever. My mom, my brother and myself have the most fucked up sleep cycle due to bad regulation of neurotransmitters. I had to carry my brother to the emergency two weeks ago because he was having a manic attack and wouldn't take his medication. He was so sleep deprived that he was psychotic. I am the only person that he trust when he losses his shit. He attacked his ceiling fan and busted his clock open in his sleep after taking some medication that our neurologist gave him. Lawl, what can I say, my entire family is completely nuts.



Posted by: KelJu

Sunday - 02/04/07
Pull Day / 8-12 Range

Sumo Deadlift: (2m RI)
Set 1: 135 x 8
Set 2: 225 x 8
Set 3: 315 x 1

Chin-Ups: (1m RI)
Set 1: BW x 8
Set 2: BW x 8
Set 3: BW x 8
Set 4: BW x 7

Bentover Row: (1m RI)
Set 1: 115 x 10
Set 2: 135 x 10
Set 3: 145 x 10

Barbell Shrugs: (2m RI)
Set 1: 495 x 15 *PR
Set 2: 500 x 15 *PR
Set 3: 500 x 15 *PR

Barbell Curls: (2m RI)
Set 1: 95 x 6
Set 2: 95 x 8
Set 3: 95 x 10 *PR

10 mins of grip work /w Hand Grippers



Haha mofo! Shrugs keep getting better and better. It is quite nice to be able to count on a muscle group to always perform above and beyond expectations.



Posted by: KelJu

Sunday - 02/04/07


3:30pm
4 Large Eggs




Posted by: Bakerboy

You should shrug someones car (preferably some hotty)... that would be so funny... your upper traps must tickle your ears.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakerboy View Post
You should shrug someones car (preferably some hotty)... that would be so funny... your upper traps must tickle your ears.
Haha, it is funny that you should say that, because they look like some sort of alien thing coming out of my back. It looks sort of like wings are about to sprout. Lawl, I'm retarded.



Posted by: BigDyl

Tell me you're using wrist wraps on those shrugs.



Posted by: BigDyl

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Been there, done that.

That stuff is for people who have normal to semi-normal brain chemistry. I was going 2 and 3 days without sleeping when I was still in high school, and that was without any stimulates what so ever. My mom, my brother and myself have the most fucked up sleep cycle due to bad regulation of neurotransmitters. I had to carry my brother to the emergency two weeks ago because he was having a manic attack and wouldn't take his medication. He was so sleep deprived that he was psychotic. I am the only person that he trust when he losses his shit. He attacked his ceiling fan and busted his clock open in his sleep after taking some medication that our neurologist gave him. Lawl, what can I say, my entire family is completely nuts.
A guy from anabolicminds said nyquil will put me out pretty nicely.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
Tell me you're using wrist wraps on those shrugs.
Of course! I'm strong, but I ain't no superman.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
A guy from anabolicminds said nyquil will put me out pretty nicely.
Contains the same active ingredient as unisome and any other over the counter sleep aid.



Posted by: BigDyl

Mudge uses a pinky finger grip when he does shrugs.



Posted by: KelJu

I was feeling great at the gym, but now I feel like ass. I just had diarrhea, and now I don't have an appetite. God I hope I am not coming down with anything.



Posted by: fufu

Take your vitamins and drink water!

Have you tried Airborne supplement?



Posted by: BigDyl

I went ahead and converted the bacterial infection into machine language source code, connected remotely to your machine, and infected you with it.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Take your vitamins and drink water!

Have you tried Airborne supplement?
I'll do that. I think another good night's sleep might also be the ticket. I will be crashing in about 45 mins.



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
I'll do that. I think another good night's sleep might also be the ticket. I will be crashing in about 45 mins.
Truths, I am going to sleep in 15 minutes...ahhh sleep.



Posted by: DOMS

Have you guys started a thread in the Health forum dedicated to sleeping disorders?



Posted by: assassin

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Have you guys started a thread in the Health forum dedicated to sleeping disorders?
I did once..



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Have you guys started a thread in the Health forum dedicated to sleeping disorders?
I had a thread about it a while back I think. Maybe I can find it.



Posted by: KelJu

Monday - 02/05/07

Leg Day (8-12) Range
Wide Stance Squats: (2m RI)
Set 1: 135 x 10
Set 2: 225 x 10
Set 3: 225 x 10
Set 4: 275 x 8
Set 5: 285 x 8
Set 6: 315 x 6

SLDL: (2m RI)
Set 1: 45 x 10
Set 2: 225 x 8
Set 3: 235 x 8 *PR

Standing Calve Raises: (1.5m RI)
Set 1: 300 x 30
Set 2: 350 x 25
Set 3: 400 x 25
Set 4: 400 x 25

Standing Calve Raises: (1.5m RI)
Set 1: 225 x 60
Set 2: 225 x ---injured---



I had a great workout until my last set of calf raises. I pulled a muscle in the rear part of my right calf. I didn't get upset, and I just laughed it off. Oh well, shit happens. Usually I would get pissed and be a big baby about it, but I am adopting a "fuck it" attitude. I don't think it was severe, but it hurts to drive, and I have to turn my leg sideways to walk. It should be healed by the week's end. Lawl, at least it was on my last set rather than first.

I am changing my squat style. I read a good article on T-nation about squatting big. They said that by widening my stance I will be able to bring my hips and glutes into the movement, and that is where my power is. I thought about that, and later realized they are right. All of the major power lifters use a wide stance. It took me a lot of sets to stretch my hips out enough to go parallel, but once I got stretched out, the wide stance felt great. I think for the first time my hips were working. Due to ankle injuries, I lack ROM in my left leg, but I was able to get around that with the new stance. Today was the first time in years that I was able to go parallel without standing on plates. I am looking forward to perfecting this style.



Posted by: KelJu

Monday - 02/05/07

Weight: 224
Sleep: 9
Skin: 8



8:00am
3 Large Eggs

11:00am
6oz piece of broiled salmon




Posted by: fufu

I have taken a wider stance it is really helps out. However, I only use it when going lower reps(not that you should, but I prefer it). It seems like to help me in the very bottom part of the lift, makes it super tight in the hole. But it is something to progress to as I assume you already know. Don't just go super wide one day. You may also want to play with the bar setting. I have been trying to set it lower and lower. It feels very good with a wide stance squat.



Posted by: KelJu

Monday - 02/05/07


2:30pm
boiled Shrimp
4oz Broiled Salmon




Posted by: KelJu

Monday - 02/05/07


7:00pm
2 cups cottage cheese




Posted by: BigDyl

Join the injury club.


I can't even do cardio with the state my quad is in.


I feel like crap right now too.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
Join the injury club.


I can't even do cardio with the state my quad is in.


I feel like crap right now too.
Don't inject in your leg anymore. Listen to me and musclepump, hit your delts. You will thank us later. Oh yeah, for me the soreness from my first injection lasted for about 4 days.



Posted by: KelJu

Monday - 02/05/07


9:00pm
2 cups cottage cheese




Posted by: KelJu

Tuesday - 02/06/2006

Weight: 228
Sleep: 9
Skin: 9



8:00am
3 Large Eggs

11:00am
4oz turkey breast
1 cup cottage cheese




The muscle in my calf doesn't hurt too much this morning. I can walk without pain, but I just can't contract the muscle very hard. I believe I will be fully recovered by my next leg day.



Posted by: Brutus_G

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
I have taken a wider stance it is really helps out. However, I only use it when going lower reps(not that you should, but I prefer it). It seems like to help me in the very bottom part of the lift, makes it super tight in the hole. But it is something to progress to as I assume you already know. Don't just go super wide one day. You may also want to play with the bar setting. I have been trying to set it lower and lower. It feels very good with a wide stance squat.
Does seem to add some extra stretch to the bottom of your squat.



Posted by: KelJu

Tuesday - 02/06/2006


12:00pm
10oz glass of veggie juice (carrots, broccoli, tomato)

3:00pm
6oz turkey breast

7:30pm
2 cups cottage cheese




Posted by: KelJu

Wednesday - 02/07/2006

Weight: 225
Sleep: 9
Skin: 9



8:00am
4 Large Eggs

11:00am
1 & 1/2 cups cottage cheese



Push Day / 3-5 Range


Flat Bench Press: (2m RI)
Set 1: 135 x 6
Set 2: 225 x 6
Set 3: 275 x 5
Set 4: 300 x 3

Standing Barbell Military Press: (2m RI)
Set 1: 45 x 8
Set 2: 95 x 8
Set 3: 135 x 5
Set 4: 155 x 5
Set 5: 185 x 3 *PR

Dips: (1.5m RI)
Set 1: BW+25 x 10
Set 2: BW+35 x 10
Set 3: BW+45 x 10

Cybex Arm Extensions: (2m RI)
Set 1: 100 x 10
Set 2: 112 x 8



Excellent Workout! A friend at the gym asked me today if I was on steroids. That kicked ass. I gladly replied that I was not, but wait a month from now and you will see what I really do look like on steroids.



Posted by: KelJu

Wednesday - 02/07/2006


12:00pm
10oz glass of fruit juice (Carrots, Apple, Blueberries)


Mmmm, the fruit juice was so much better than the veggie juice. Maybe I will drink fruit juice and eat my veggies.


1:30pm
2 Large roasted chicken quarters





Posted by: BoneCrusher

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Wednesday - 02/07/2006


12:00pm
10oz glass of fruit juice (Carrots, Apple, Blueberries)


Mmmm, the fruit juice was so much better than the veggie juice. Maybe I will drink fruit juice and eat my veggies.


1:30pm
2 Large roasted chicken quarters

I eat my veggies as a snack ...



Posted by: fufu

congrats on the PR's! Nice dips + overhead press, you have strong triceps.



Posted by: Brutus_G

Wow 45 dips and a 300 bench, D's got some competition.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
Wow 45 dips and a 300 bench, D's got some competition.
Haha, I think DoubleD deadlifts like 400lbs. I'm pretty sure he has me beat.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Haha, I think DoubleD deadlifts like 400lbs. I'm pretty sure he has me beat.
Yeah at the moment ... but the way you keep working you'll catch up.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
Yeah at the moment ... but the way you keep working you'll catch up.
Haha, thanks. I hate to admit it, but in a few weeks I will take a stab at another cycle, so I should make some huge gains in the next few months.



Posted by: Brutus_G

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Haha, thanks. I hate to admit it, but in a few weeks I will take a stab at another cycle, so I should make some huge gains in the next few months.
Not that i'll understand it but what does a cycle look like? Yours?



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
Not that i'll understand it but what does a cycle look like? Yours?
Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Week 1: 500mg Enanthate
NAC 1 tab, Milk thistle 1000mg
Week 2: 500mg Enanthate
NAC 1 tab, Milk thistle 1000mg
Week 3: 500mg Enanthate
NAC 1 tab, Milk thistle 1000mg
Week 4: 500mg Enanthate
NAC 1 tab, Milk thistle 1000mg
Week 5: 500mg Enanthate
NAC 1 tab, Milk thistle 1000mg
Week 6: 200mg Propionate
NAC 1 tab, Milk thistle 1000mg
Week 7: 200mg Propionate
NAC 1 tab, Milk thistle 1000mg
Week 8: 200mg Propionate
NAC 1 tab , Milk thistle 1000mg
PCT- Nolva 50mg
Week 9: 200mg Propionate
NAC 1 tab, Milk thistle 1000mg
PCT- Nolva 50mg
Week10: 200mg Propionate
NAC 1 tab, Milk thistle 1000mg
PCT- Nolva 50mg
Week 11: NAC 1 tab, Milk thistle 1000mg
PCT- Nolva 50mg
Week 12: NAC 1 tab, Milk thistle 1000mg
PCT- Nolva 50mg
Week 13: NAC 1 tab, Milk thistle 1000mg
PCT- Nolva 50mg
Week 14: PCT- Nolva 50mg
Week 15: PCT- Nolva 50mg
.



Posted by: Brutus_G

I don't understand any of it ,but thanks for posting it.



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Wednesday - 02/07/2006

Weight: 225
Sleep: 9
Skin: 9



8:00am
4 Large Eggs

11:00am
1 & 1/2 cups cottage cheese



Push Day / 3-5 Range


Flat Bench Press: (2m RI)
Set 1: 135 x 6
Set 2: 225 x 6
Set 3: 275 x 5
Set 4: 300 x 3

Standing Barbell Military Press: (2m RI)
Set 1: 45 x 8
Set 2: 95 x 8
Set 3: 135 x 5
Set 4: 155 x 5
Set 5: 185 x 3 *PR

Dips: (1.5m RI)
Set 1: BW+25 x 10
Set 2: BW+35 x 10
Set 3: BW+45 x 10

Cybex Arm Extensions: (2m RI)
Set 1: 100 x 10
Set 2: 112 x 8



Excellent Workout! A friend at the gym asked me today if I was on steroids. That kicked ass. I gladly replied that I was not, but wait a month from now and you will see what I really do look like on steroids.
Nice lifting man. Good shit.



Posted by: KelJu

Wednesday - 02/07/2006


3:00pm
8oz roasted chicken

6:00pm
6oz roasted chicken

9:00pm
6oz roasted chicken
1 cup cottage cheese




Posted by: KelJu

Thursday - 02/08/2006

Weight: 226
Sleep: 9
Skin: 9



8:00am
1 cup cottage cheese

10:00am
6oz broiled salmon
1 cup brooccoli




Posted by: Brutus_G

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Wednesday - 02/07/2006


3:00pm
8oz roasted chicken

6:00pm
6oz roasted chicken

9:00pm
6oz roasted chicken
1 cup cottage cheese
LOL you must be shitting hard.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
LOL you must be shitting hard.
Yes actually, I find myself on the toilet a lot these days. I ate an entire chicken that day, and I plan to cook another one tomorrow.



Posted by: KelJu

Thursday - 02/04/07
Pull Day / 8-12 Range


5 min of Ham and Glute Stretches

Sumo Deadlift: (2m RI)
Set 1: 135 x 8
Set 2: 225 x 8
Set 3: 315 x 5
Set 4: 330 x 5

Chin-Ups: (1m RI)
Set 1: BW x 9
Set 2: BW x 8
Set 3: BW x 8

Bentover Row: (1m RI)
Set 1: 135 x 10
Set 2: 155 x 8
Set 3: 185 x 5 *PR

Barbell Shrugs: (2m RI)
Set 1: 405 x 25
Set 2: 405 x 25

Barbell Shrugs with 3 sec squeeze on each rep: (2m RI)
Set 1: 405 x 10
Set 2: 405 x 10

Barbell Curls: (2m RI)
Set 1: 95 x 8
Set 2: 95 x 8
Set 3: 95 x 8




Booya! sumo Deadlifts are kicking ass. I finally felt my hip being brought into the movement. The set of 330 was easier than the set of 315, because toward the end of my third set I starting driving my hip forward by pushing out towards my ankles. I am sure that I will be able to do 350 on the next pull day.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Booya! sumo Deadlifts are kicking ass. I finally felt my hip being brought into the movement. The set of 330 was easier than the set of 315, because toward the end of my third set I starting driving my hip forward by pushing out towards my ankles. I am sure that I will be able to do 350 on the next pull day.
Nice. There's nothing that'll put more weight on the bar faster than learning the correct form. My bench jumped 20 pounds when I stopped doing them like a schmuck.

Great job!



Posted by: Brutus_G

So i guess the sumos are here to stay?



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
So i guess the sumos are here to stay?
For sure!

My whole issue with deadlifting before was that I was always paranoid that I was going to hurt my back, and a few times i did. But pulling sumo takes most of the load off of my back, so I can pull harder. The strain goes to my hip and glutes rather than my lower back.



Posted by: KelJu

Thursday - 02/08/2006


1:00pm
6oz Broiled Salmon
1 cup broccoli

4:30pm
6oz Broiled Salmon
1 cup cottage cheese

7:30pm
1 & 1/2 cup cottage cheese




Posted by: KelJu

Friday - 02/09/2006

Weight: 221
Sleep: 6
Skin: 8


Vitamins:
B-12 / 500mcg
B-6 / 100mg
Saw Palmetto / 950mg
Folic Acis / 400mcg
Niacin / 500mg
Milk thistle / 200mg


9:00am
3 Large Eggs


A slight case of restless leg syndrome has been popping up lately. I had it real bad as a child, but I can't figure out what would trigger it now. It is very annoying and keeps me from falling to sleep on time.


On a more retarded note, I went against everyone's advice and I injected AS this morning consisting of Test Enanthate and Tren Acetate. What can I say? I like to play big. I think I will be able to grab this thing by the horns. If not, I have enough experience this time to know when to cycle off and start pct early if problems arise.



Posted by: DOMS

How much did you weigh when you took the picture that is in your gallery?



Posted by: fufu

Just be careful and make sure your diet is perfect! It seems it has been for the past couple weeks, so you should be alright. Good luck.

I get restless legs sometimes, it's hard to stop because most of the time you don't even realize you are doing it.



Posted by: BigDyl

Sometimes I get restless legs syndrome with my 'third' leg



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
Sometimes I get restless legs syndrome with my 'third' leg
I get that in class all the time.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
How much did you weigh when you took the picture that is in your gallery?
I weighed 205, but I am so much stronger now than when I took that picture. I was probably only squatting 300 then, and I was doing no dead lifting at all. I am stronger all around, but I have a significant more amount of fat.



Posted by: KelJu

Friday - 02/09/2006


11:30pm
6oz Roasted Garlic Chicken
24oz Juice (carrot, apple, stawberry, lemon)
1 cup broccoli





Posted by: Bakerboy





Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakerboy View Post
Is that Jack LaLanne?



Posted by: Bakerboy

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Is that Jack LaLanne?


hai!



Posted by: KelJu

Friday - 02/09/2006


1:30pm
4oz Roasted Garlic Chicken
1/2 cup raw almonds





Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakerboy View Post


hai!
The blue hair is hot. I would do her nasty, oh yeah!



Posted by: Brutus_G

Something about Asian women's faces that i like.



Posted by: Double D

Hows the injections coming along?



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
I weighed 205, but I am so much stronger now than when I took that picture. I was probably only squatting 300 then, and I was doing no dead lifting at all. I am stronger all around, but I have a significant more amount of fat.
Okay, that's what I needed to know (and had guessed) in order to say this:






You're pretty fucking bad ass! Great fucking job, man!!!



Posted by: fufu

Kelju is bad ass.



Posted by: Brutus_G

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Hows the injections coming along?
I'm kinda psyched to see how his body will change with the juice. Will you take a before and after pics kelju?



Posted by: Brutus_G

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakerboy View Post


hai!
OMG i just realized shes got a Microsoft symbol on her!



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Hows the injections coming along?
So far so good. This morning I did:

250mg Enanthate & 75mg Tren Acetate

I'll do these bi-weekly for as long as I feel like I have control over things. The deal I made with myself was that I will have to step outside myself once a day to check things out. If everything looks ok, I'll step back inside and finish my day. I think they call that observing ego. I'm also going to report everything, because sometimes an outside perspective is good.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Okay, that's what I needed to know (and had guessed) in order to say this:






You're pretty fucking bad ass! Great fucking job, man!!!
Thanks a lot dude! That means a lot coming from you. You guys give me the warm and fuzzies.
Friday - 02/09/07

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Kelju is bad ass.
Not as bad ass as you my friend!


Leg Day (3-5) Range
Wide Stance Squats: (2m RI)
Set 1: 135 x 5
Set 2: 225 x 5
Set 4: 315 x 5
Set 5: 370 x 5 *PR

SLDL: (2m RI)
Set 1: 135 x 5
Set 2: 185 x 5
Set 3: 225 x 5
Set 4: 250 x 5 *PR

Smith Machine Standing Calve Raises with Block: (2m RI)
Set 1: 315 x 30
Set 2: 315 x 30
Set 3: 315 x 30
Set 4: 315 x 35

Sit-ups on 45 degree Incline: (2m RI) --- Holding Weight Behind my Head
Set 1: BW x 10
Set 2: BW+35 x 10
Set 3: BW+10 x 8
Set 4: BW+5 x 5
Set 5: BW+5 x 3

Hand Grip Work with CoCs:
Lawl
Set 1: 100 x 10
Set 2: 100 x 10
Set 3: 100 x 10




Alright, I made 2 PRs today, and I ripped my best pair of shorts doing it. On the first rep of the 370 set, my shorts exploded like a bomb. My spotters snickered a little, but it’s all good.



Posted by: KelJu

Friday - 02/09/2006


2:30pm
4oz Roasted Garlic Chicken

4:30pm
6oz Roasted Garlic Chicken

8:00pm
6oz Roasted Garlic Chicken
1/2 cup almonds




Posted by: Bakerboy

Kelju, do you feel any different on juice? What was your reason for doing it?



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakerboy View Post
Kelju, do you feel any different on juice? What was your reason for doing it?
Lawl, in all honesty, I just want to look bad ass for summer. I want to turn heads. I know it is a little vane, but I work hard, so I should be able to feel like my work has paid off. I want to go to the next level.

The funny thing about a cycle, and everyone who has ever done one will vouch for this: My rational brain tells me that there is no fucking way that I will see any effects for 2 weeks, but all of my lifts will go up and I will feel better. It is all placebo. It is nuts. I know that I am being tricked by placebo, yet I can’t' seem to figure out why my lifts are jumping up after my first shot today.



Posted by: fufu

Wow! Nice squats man.



Posted by: Jodi

Quote:
9:00am
3 Large Eggs

11:30pm
6oz Roasted Garlic Chicken
24oz Juice (carrot, apple, stawberry, lemon)
1 cup broccoli

1:30pm
4oz Roasted Garlic Chicken
1/2 cup raw almonds

2:30pm
4oz Roasted Garlic Chicken

4:30pm
6oz Roasted Garlic Chicken

8:00pm
6oz Roasted Garlic Chicken
1/2 cup almonds
Hmmm.......Kelju, your diet concerns me



Posted by: Spud

Hahahaha, that's alot of roasted garlic chicken!



Posted by: BigDyl

Dude the anabolics arent' going to take effect unless you get some carbs in. Now if you plan to cut... by all means your diet can suck, and as long as you refill your glycogen stores, you'll get ripped and maintain strength.



Posted by: Brutus_G

Veggies at each meal man.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jodi View Post
Hmmm.......Kelju, your diet concerns me
I know, I know. I am not eating like this because I want to. I have classes in the morning, then I leave straight from class to work, then from work back to night classes. I have no time in between to get food together, so for convenience I roast or bake a chicken and eat on the chicken all day. I'll try to do better. I will also start eating more carbs now that I am on a cycle.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jodi View Post
Hmmm.......Kelju, your diet concerns me
You been told ...
Quote:
Veggies at each meal man.
Quote:
I'll try to do better. I will also start eating more carbs now that I am on a cycle. Today 06:28 AM
Yet you quibble ...

It isn't hard to snack on veggies ... just grab the pre-cut stuff (freshness required) and chew. A bag of mixed fruit, some clean breakfast bars. Do you have anything close so you can buy in bulk? Granola, flax ... and so on. Eat all this stuff on the run if you have too ... but Kelju EAT YOUR FUCKING VEGGIES SON!!!!!!!!!! Don't make us come over there ...



Posted by: BoneCrusher

P.S.

Your squats are f'n killer brother ... keep up the quality effort.



Posted by: BigDyl

I think you should drop the tren son.

I don't even like dbol, but I would take it over tren.


tren = evil.



Posted by: Double D

I do like dbol, nice with strength gains and is a great kick starter.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
I think you should drop the tren son.

I don't even like dbol, but I would take it over tren.


tren = evil.
I know that if you get a little too into tren ... er a little too much tren into you ... the sides get outta hand, but if you use tren with caution it's perported to be good stuff. Why you sayin tren=evil? Not bein a smart ass ... I'm truly wanna know so I don't fuck up.



Posted by: Double D

How are things not to hung over today?



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
How are things not to hung over today?
Not in the least. I stayed up posting and drinking water for about an hour last night. I feel pretty hydrated. I can't workout because I forgot that I have to go to the campus and work on my computer projects.


Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
You been told ...
Yet you quibble ...

It isn't hard to snack on veggies ... just grab the pre-cut stuff (freshness required) and chew. A bag of mixed fruit, some clean breakfast bars. Do you have anything close so you can buy in bulk? Granola, flax ... and so on. Eat all this stuff on the run if you have too ... but Kelju EAT YOUR FUCKING VEGGIES SON!!!!!!!!!! Don't make us come over there ...
Ok, Lawl. I'll do veggies with the first 3 meals, until I can get a better system figured out. I'll also be juicing a lot of cabbage this week, also.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
P.S.

Your squats are f'n killer brother ... keep up the quality effort.
Thank! I was blown away myself. It is the new squat position. I can feel my hip driving the weight rather than all of the weight being on my back and quads.


Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
I think you should drop the tren son.

I don't even like dbol, but I would take it over tren.


tren = evil.
Sorry man, I have already set everything in motion. I'll cycle off if I see problems popping up.



Posted by: Double D

Wish I was still in college, god it was so much fun.

I am fuckin hung over bad this morning. Already puked this morning and feel like my heads going to explode.



Posted by: Brutus_G

Yo kelju pics?



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
Yo kelju pics?

You want before and after?



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Wish I was still in college, god it was so much fun.

I am fuckin hung over bad this morning. Already puked this morning and feel like my heads going to explode.
Lawl, I don't like college life much. I can't wait to start my career. I got big goals and big dreams. I am ready to make stuff start happening.



Posted by: Pylon

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Lawl, I don't like college life much. I can't wait to start my career. I got big goals and big dreams. I am ready to make stuff start happening.
Trust me, these are words that are only ever spoken by someone while in college. Once you get out into the world, you'll be begging to go back!

Where do you go to school?



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pylon View Post
Trust me, these are words that are only ever spoken by someone while in college. Once you get out into the world, you'll be begging to go back!

Where do you go to school?
University of South Alabama. I like college as far as I like my field of study, but I don't like being poor with $40,000 of debt for student loan. I work 20 to 30 hours a week and take a full class load, so I rarely party.

I like my job that I have now, but it doesn't pay enough. I know I am probably one of the highest paid college kids my age, but I got car insurance to pay, rent, bills, food, ect.

I like the working would better than college life. Now if I was doing the frat thing, and daddy was paying my bills, I might feel a little differently. Bah, I think doing it the hard way has built character. I wouldn’t have done it any other way.



Posted by: Pylon

Hey, I did it the same way, and I'm telling you it was the best time of my life. Broke? I remember looking forward to the end of the week so you could pick up $10 donating plateletts. (Like donating blood, only they take part out, give the rest back, and you can go 2x each week. $5 the first time, $10 the second.)

I also understand the load. I worked full time and took a full load of classes. Eventually, the school (Mizzou) felt bad about taking my cash when I didn't even go to class, and advised me to pursue other opportunities. (Skip to the end, it was a lot easier to carry that load back then. I ended up working with a family while I finished my undergrad and got my MBA.)

Don't worry about the loans. A friend of mine once pointed out that we send our whole lives in debt over something, so why sweat it?



Posted by: Double D

Fuck I got about 100,000 bucks in debt. Yeah thats nice. I went to the University of Maryville in St.Louis. Just had to go to the private school! Fuck me!



Posted by: Pylon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Fuck I got about 100,000 bucks in debt. Yeah thats nice. I went to the University of Maryville in St.Louis. Just had to go to the private school! Fuck me!
Wow. I had no idea Maryville was that expensive. How was the education?



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Fuck I got about 100,000 bucks in debt. Yeah thats nice. I went to the University of Maryville in St.Louis. Just had to go to the private school! Fuck me!
Yeah, I went to where I could afford. 3 years cost me $40,000. I went my first two years for free on an academic scholarship to a junior college. It was a waste of time as far as I was concerned, because I went for pre-engineering, then switched to computer science at south. I damn near had to start all over again.

I will have gone to college for 6 years by the time I get my BS.



Posted by: Brutus_G

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
You want before and after?
Hell yeah man that would be sweet!



Posted by: Pylon

A lot of people go to school for seven years.



Posted by: Brutus_G

I'm thinking about becoming a physical therapist so I'll be there for a while....YES!



Posted by: Double D

Maryville is like 24,000 a year I believe. SLU is like 28,000 and Washington is like 40,000!!! So I picked the least out of em. I didnt even look at Wash U.

Education there was a joke. Teachers with chips on their shoulders, and I passed each class and only went half the time. Hell I didnt just pass, but got pretty much all B's and A's. Really easy. Hell I didnt even go to my Philosophy class the whole second half of a semester, but once to take the final and I got a B in that class! I did more working out and partying than anything. However I never did get a degree, I am 6 credits away, but I got with my wife and I needed to take care of her and my daughter so I got a job and havent made it back to school yet.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
I'm thinking about becoming a physical therapist so I'll be there for a while....YES!
I have a few friends that went into that. I hope you are ready to work, because being accepted into physical therapy school is tough.



Posted by: Brutus_G

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Maryville is like 24,000 a year I believe. SLU is like 28,000 and Washington is like 40,000!!! So I picked the least out of em. I didnt even look at Wash U.

Education there was a joke. Teachers with chips on their shoulders, and I passed each class and only went half the time. Hell I didnt just pass, but got pretty much all B's and A's. Really easy. Hell I didnt even go to my Philosophy class the whole second half of a semester, but once to take the final and I got a B in that class! I did more working out and partying than anything. However I never did get a degree, I am 6 credits away, but I got with my wife and I needed to take care of her and my daughter so I got a job and havent made it back to school yet.
Go back your only 25 its gonna be alot weirder when your 35 or 45. Get that good job for your family D.



Posted by: Pylon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
Go back your only 25 its gonna be alot weirder when your 35 or 45. Get that good job for your family D.
I second that. As a guy who finished up later (and as an HR person), I can tell you that it makes a huge difference in your career. The downside is that with that many credits, you may need to go back to Maryville to finish. A lot of schools can transfer, or at least say you have to do 30 or 40 credits at their place to graduate. But do it sooner than later. You'll be glad you did.



Posted by: Double D

Ya I dont see myself going back to Maryville simply because its a long drive and I wont be staying on campus. Hell I know the problem with shit not tranfering. I couldnt get hardly anything to transfer from some night classes I took at a community college.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Maryville is like 24,000 a year I believe. SLU is like 28,000 and Washington is like 40,000!!! So I picked the least out of em. I didnt even look at Wash U.

Education there was a joke. Teachers with chips on their shoulders, and I passed each class and only went half the time. Hell I didnt just pass, but got pretty much all B's and A's. Really easy. Hell I didnt even go to my Philosophy class the whole second half of a semester, but once to take the final and I got a B in that class! I did more working out and partying than anything. However I never did get a degree, I am 6 credits away, but I got with my wife and I needed to take care of her and my daughter so I got a job and havent made it back to school yet.
It works out that way sometimes. My buddy Jake was working on his final dissertation to get his PHD when his wife got pregnant. That was 4 years ago, and he still hasn't finished the dissertation. He is the only true intellectual I have ever met that works for $15.00 and hour when he could be making $100,000 a year teaching at a university. He had perfect grades. He was working on his PHD at Berkley for Christ’s sake. I have been kicking him in the ass for the last 6 months.

"Jake when the fuck are you going to finish your dissertation? Dude you are wasting away here you are destined for more."

I might have finally got through to him, because he told me yesterday that he is moving back to Seattle to finish his dissertation. God, I hope he finishes it.


As far as my education, I am very satisfied with the computer science department at South. The CIS department is small because the dropout rate is 93%. So many kids think computer science means they will be playing computer games all day or something. Lawl, wtf did they think?

“Ok class, today we are going to have a Counter Strike LAN party.”

The first programming class usually weeds out half of the freshmen, and if that doesn’t do the trick, data structures will. I know 90% of the people in my track, because so few of us have made it that far. I have 3 or 4 professors that know their shit. I have one professor for 3 of my classes this semester, and the guy is the best professor I have ever had. I feel fortunate to have been one of his students.



Posted by: Double D

I had some buddies skipping class because they saw me do it. Well in the long run it didnt pay off for em because they failed and was on probation. Wow now that would suck!

But I can relate to certain things. Like alot of people get into physical therapy and they dont realize the work they have to do for it. I had a g/f going to M-ville for that and she had TONS of work to do each night. I never had the interest to do that, and after seeing that it confirmed it.



Posted by: Pylon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Ya I dont see myself going back to Maryville simply because its a long drive and I wont be staying on campus. Hell I know the problem with shit not tranfering. I couldnt get hardly anything to transfer from some night classes I took at a community college.
Then find a school there and get your shit transfered. Take classes at night or whatever, but get going. Seriously, in 10 years, you'll be glad you did.

What were you studying? Are you still interested in it? If not, you might be able to transfer more and keep some of that as a minor, then do a new major at the new school. Just a thought.



Posted by: Pylon

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
So many kids think computer science means they will be playing computer games all day or something. Lawl, wtf did they think?

“Ok class, today we are going to have a Counter Strike LAN party.”

The first programming class usually weeds out half of the freshmen, and if that doesn’t do the trick, data structures will. I know 90% of the people in my track, because so few of us have made it that far. I have 3 or 4 professors that know their shit. I have one professor for 3 of my classes this semester, and the guy is the best professor I have ever had. I feel fortunate to have been one of his students.
True story, I had the network admin come visit me a couple of months ago. (BTW, my undergrad was in Psych and Comp Sci, so I speak your language. Kinda.) Anyway, my department was into so much tech stuff, we were basically and adjunct IT department. They came over because they needed to do some network speed testing on the day before a holiday. Their solution was to challenge my team in a Diablo II tourney. (We passed, but the lesson is sometimes you do get to play games. Of course, all those guys got laid off when their jobs were outsourced....)



Posted by: Double D

I was going to become a teacher. However it doesnt appeal to me anymore. Something like exercise science or something like that does appeal to me and always has. But there is alot of fuckin math in that as well and I SUCK at math.



Posted by: Pylon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
I was going to become a teacher. However it doesnt appeal to me anymore. Something like exercise science or something like that does appeal to me and always has. But there is alot of fuckin math in that as well and I SUCK at math.
Yeah, that's a tough area. Maybe just see what school is close and check out what they have to offer.



Posted by: Brutus_G

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
I was going to become a teacher. However it doesnt appeal to me anymore. Something like exercise science or something like that does appeal to me and always has. But there is alot of fuckin math in that as well and I SUCK at math.
Damn math.



Posted by: KelJu

Ok brutus, pictures are up.



Posted by: Double D

You can sure see alot of hard work on that frame. Nice work.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
You can sure see alot of hard work on that frame. Nice work.
Lawl, I am a fat bastard. I have no definition what so ever. I need to drop 15lbs, badly. But, thanks for the encouragement.



Posted by: Double D

Hell we are about at the same bf. I have been cutting for a few weeks now. Truthfully I dont care alot. Hell I am stronger than most people I know, so its ok in my mind. Besides, I am married.



Posted by: Brutus_G

God you look like a beast! Excellent back traps look massive. Your on a cut cycle right?



Posted by: Double D

Yeah I was goin to comment on that as well. Rear delts and traps look thick.



Posted by: Brutus_G

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Yeah I was goin to comment on that as well. Rear delts and traps look thick.
A cross between a powerlifter and a submission fighter.



Posted by: Double D

Ya I got that problem as well. I look more like a powerlifter. URGH! Oh well. As long as my arms are bigger than 17 and my chest is hovering around 50 I am happy with that!



Posted by: Pylon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
A cross between a powerlifter and a submission fighter.
You forgot lumberjack.

Nice pics. Good development!



Posted by: KelJu

Sunday - 02/11/2006

Weight: 223
Sleep: 2
Skin: 10
This is the best my skin has looked since I was 15! I haven't got a single bump.

Vitamins:
B-12 / 500mcg
B-6 / 100mg
Saw Palmetto / 950mg
Folic Acid / 400mcg
Niacin / 500mg
Milk thistle / 200mg
Glucosmine HCL / 1500 mg
Chondroitin Sulfate / 200 mg
MSM / 1500mg


9:00am
3 Large Eggs
16oz cabbage juice

12:30pm
3 Large Eggs
1 cup broccoli
20oz fruit juice (pear, strawberry, blueberry)




Posted by: Double D

Is there anyways to limit yourself to 3 yolks a day and add whites? Dude to much cholestrol!



Posted by: fufu

I think your skin took all your sleep points.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double D View Post
Is there anyways to limit yourself to 3 yolks a day and add whites? Dude to much cholestrol!
I suppose I could buy egg whites next time I am at walmart.



Posted by: Double D

Yeah definitly do something. That isnt good for ya. Just to much of it.



Posted by: Bakerboy

http://www.uniquepeek.com/viewpage.php?page_id=455



Posted by: Pylon

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
I suppose I could buy egg whites next time I am at walmart.
Check out the price on egg beaters at sam's or costco. I think it works out to be about the same.



Posted by: Pylon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakerboy View Post
I don't get it. I mean, I like it, but I don't get it.



Posted by: Brutus_G

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
I think your skin took all your sleep points.
LOL

Hey Kelju what brand are your B vitamins and do you feel they have made a difference?



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
LOL

Hey Kelju what brand are your B vitamins and do you feel they have made a difference?
They are Rite-Aid brand, and no I don't know if they are doing any good. I am just taking trouble's advice.



Posted by: KelJu

Monday - 02/12/2006

Weight: 221
Sleep: 9
Skin: 10


Vitamins:
B-12 / 500mcg
B-6 / 100mg
Saw Palmetto / 950mg
Folic Acid / 400mcg
Niacin / 500mg
Milk thistle / 200mg
Glucosmine HCL / 1500 mg
Chondroitin Sulfate / 200 mg
MSM / 1500mg


7:30am
2 Large Eggs & 2 egg whites




Posted by: BigDyl

2 large eggs + 2 whites = 160 calories...


That's horrible.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
2 large eggs + 2 whites = 160 calories...


That's horrible.
I'm not a big breakfast eater.



Posted by: KelJu

Monday - 02/12/2007


10:30am
1 bowl homemade beek and veggie stew
1/2 cup dry oatmeal



Push Day / 3-5 Range


Flat Bench Press: (2m RI)
Set 1: 135 x 5
Set 2: 225 x 5
Set 3: 275 x 5
Set 4: 300 x 3

Standing Barbell Military Press: (2m RI)
Set 1: 45 x 5
Set 2: 135 x 5
Set 3: 155 x 5
Set 4: 185 x 5 *PR

Decline Bench Press: (2m RI)
Set 1: 225 x 5
Set 2: 275 x 5
Set 3: 315 x 4

Dips: (2m RI)
Set 1: BW+25 x 10
Set 2: BW+45 x 10
Set 3: BW+60 x 8

Dumbell Side Laterials: (2m RI)
Set 1: 15 x 10
Set 2: 20 x 10
Set 3: 25 x 10




Posted by: fufu

You've been getting a nice streak of PR's recently, noice!



Posted by: BigDyl

lawl, so how long does it take to feel good on test? 3 weeks?



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
lawl, so how long does it take to feel good on test? 3 weeks?
Yeah, somewhere in that time span. I really started feeling it between week 2 and week 3 when I was using Enanthate.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
You've been getting a nice streak of PR's recently, noice!
Thanks, and lawl @ your avatar.



Posted by: BigDyl

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Thanks, and lawl @ your avatar.
What about mine?



Posted by: BigDyl

Well so far I'm 9 days in, and all I've noticed is my resting beats per minute is up 10 beats a minute average, and my bp may be up 4-5 points on sys and dy.

I'm also restless sleeping sometimes. Hopefully it gets better from here or I'm getting off, lol.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
What about mine?
I thought I had commented on it in another thread. If I didn't I Lawled to myself when I first say it.



Posted by: BigDyl

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
Well so far I'm 9 days in, and all I've noticed is my resting beats per minute is up 10 beats a minute average, and my bp may be up 4-5 points on sys and dy.

I'm also restless sleeping sometimes. Hopefully it gets better from here or I'm getting off, lol.
.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
Well so far I'm 9 days in, and all I've noticed is my resting beats per minute is up 10 beats a minute average, and my bp may be up 4-5 points on sys and dy.

I'm also restless sleeping sometimes. Hopefully it gets better from here or I'm getting off, lol.
It will get better, then maybe worse. I have no idea why your BP is up. I think it is in your head. I think you’re nervous about the gear and that is causing your slight BP increase.



Posted by: KelJu

Monday - 02/12/2007



1:30pm
8oz broiled salmon
1 bowl of salad (baby spinach & broccoli)
Fruit juice (apple, strawberry, carrot, blueberry)




Posted by: Brutus_G

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
They are Rite-Aid brand, and no I don't know if they are doing any good. I am just taking trouble's advice.
you need to increase your dose of b12 to like 1mg or 2mg.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
you need to increase your dose of b12 to like 1mg or 2mg.
I'll check into that. Yo uare probably right, because I think I need 3 times the normal dose since I am on the cycle.



Posted by: BigDyl

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
I'll check into that. Yo uare probably right, because I think I need 3 times the normal dose since I am on the cycle.
Why B 12?



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
Why B 12?
That is what I read on another site. Bodybuilders actually take B-12 shots. I need to go dig up that page, and it might explain why we would need the higher dose.



Posted by: KelJu

Monday - 02/12/2007



4:30pm
6oz broiled salmon
1 bowl of salad (baby spinach & broccoli)

7:30pm
6oz broiled salmon


I'm hungry, and out of food. I might have to go to get some food from fresh market, but I already took my sleeping meds. I would hate to hurt someone on the road.



Posted by: KelJu

Monday - 02/12/2007



9:00pm
Salmon and Tuna Sushi
1/2 cup mixed nuts and rasins






Posted by: KelJu

Tuesday - 02/13/2006

Weight: 224
Sleep: 6
Skin: 10


Vitamins:
B-12 / 500mcg
B-6 / 100mg
Saw Palmetto / 950mg
Folic Acid / 400mcg
Niacin / 500mg
Milk thistle / 200mg
Glucosmine HCL / 1500 mg
Chondroitin Sulfate / 200 mg
MSM / 1500mg


7:30am
2 Large Eggs & 2 egg whites
1/3 cup mixed nuts & raisins




Posted by: IainDaniel

Typical dose of B12 is 1000mcg.

B12 helps with appetite and energy.



Posted by: fufu

It also helps the production of red blood cells.



Posted by: IainDaniel

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
It also helps the production of red blood cells.
Yeah it is used for helping with anemia. I wonder how much it impacts production of red blood cells in someone that isn't anemic?



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
Yeah it is used for helping with anemia. I wonder how much it impacts production of red blood cells in someone that isn't anemic?




Posted by: IainDaniel

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Especially since excess B12 is excreted, since it is a water soluble vitamin.

But I don't really know the impact of Anabolics on blood though.

That said B12 is stored in the liver, so maybe that is the reason for dosing b12, while on cycle. Dunno.



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
Especially since excess B12 is excreted, since it is a water soluble vitamin.


But I don't really know the impact of Anabolics on blood though.
I could be wrong, but I think taking AAS can produce more RBCs.



Posted by: IainDaniel

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
I could be wrong, but I think taking AAS can produce more RBCs.
Yep that is what it looks like.



Posted by: KelJu

So I guess I should keep the B-12 around 1000mcg?



Posted by: KelJu

Tuesday - 02/13/2007



10:30pm
2 large eggs and 2 egg whites
1/2 cup mixed nuts and raisins