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some would argue that unless you are a powerlifter, you don't even need to do a flat bench press, that dips are actually more effective an exercise.
I say don't sweat the bench, and just work on your overheads and dips like you did, you will be more than fine. How about dumbbells? Does a flat db bench bother your shoulder? Or, how about a close grip bench press? I have found in the past when my shoulders bothered me that I could still close grip bench, even if I couldn't regular grip bench. just some suggestions....don't think you need them since you seem to be doing well in here regardless, but, |
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Bench press is kinda of an overrated exercise. I remember Charles Poliquin talking about how a lack of ohp is a common cause of shoulder problems.
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I wouldn't say the lack of an overhead press is the cause of shoulder problems, it is probably a combination of too much horizontal pressing, not enough horizontal pulling and then a lack of overhead pressing and pulling, so if you can keep a happy ratio of movements around the joint, you should be ok.
the problem arises in people like me who admitedly "worked out the wrong ways" for a good portion of the first 5 years of my lifting career, and had to play catch up from then on. I am ok at the moment, but probably have a higher succeptability (is that a word?) to shoulder problems and need to be more careful. |
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I agree with this completly! I was one of those people whos pulling had to catch back up to my pushing! Now look at me!
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Some people also use a weighted vest.
I have been feeling pain in my back when deading to....thats wierd. Oh well strong workout none the less! |
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Tuesday - 07/17/2007
Rep Range Week Pull Day / 8-12 Range Sumo Deadlift: (2m RI) Set 1: 135 x 5 Set 2: 225 x 5 Set 3: 315 x 3 Set 4: 375 x 3 Hurt my back on this one. I don't get it. My form was flawless. Deadlifts have been hurting me a lot lately. Chin-Ups: (2m RI) Set 1: BW x 12 Set 2: BW x 12 Set 3: BW x 10 Supine Rows: (2m RI) Set 1: BW x 12 Set 2: BW x 10 Set 3: BW x 10 Barbell Shrugs: (2m RI) Set 1: 315 x 20 Set 2: 405 x 20 Set 3: 455 x 20 Dumbbell Hammer Curls: (2m RI) Set 1: 40's x 12 Set 2: 40's x 12 Set 3: 40's x 10 I think I am going to stop doing deadlifts for a while. They keep hurting my lower back despite my efforts of doing them safely. I need to get away from heavy lifting all together. I am about to go on a strict diet that Jody is helping me with, so I expect to see significant strength reduction. If I get away from heavy lifting and focus more on increasing my rep range, maybe I won't notice the strength loss. |
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I know im prob getting annoying but can i see another pic? Before after kinda thing?
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You mentioned before that you were a fat ass as a kid. How much did you weigh then?
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Good story, and great work! We're all proud of you!
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How can that guy not want something from you? Be careful KelJu, he could be a decent guy but he could also be an axe murderer!
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How can that guy not want something from you? Be careful KelJu, he could be a decent guy but he could also be an axe murderer!
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You look good man i showed my mom and she asked if you were a bouncer lol.
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You know, I have come to sort of the same conclusion as you. I can't go lifting heavy all the time and take the risks. I always feel like a rusty machine all the time. Only existing to lift heavy.
Now I am looking for more balance, I think we are in a similar situation. |
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Is your mom hot?
Just kidding. Thanks for the complement from both you and your mom. |
shes a little over your age range lol
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Hey kelju your off cycle right now right? How much of your gains have you kept?
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All of them. Well, I probably lost a lot of strength in my chest, but that was from the injury, not coming off of the juice.
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I was curious how tall you are? Then looked at the beginning of the journal.. do you have updated stats since then?
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I was curious how tall you are? Then looked at the beginning of the journal.. do you have updated stats since then?
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, and I am still a smartass
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I'm betting he is still 6'2" Jake
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Kelju you ownz the BB! 20 rep dips man why not Add some weight?
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I will next week. This week is high rep week, but next week is low rep.
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You went camping? I heard about that, but I've never gone. The fundamental problem with camping, for me, is that it doesn't have any city.
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Yeah, my trip was pretty fun. We went camping at a beautiful place with a huge natural lake surrounded by limestone, so the water was crystal clear. You could see 20 feet to the bottom almost. We did a lot of swimming to stay cool.
I haven't been swimming in about 3 years and I lost most of my ability to float. I sank to the bottom like a rock for the first time in my life. It was work to stay a float. I feel relaxed and ready to go back to school. |
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Well, the problem is muscle is denser than fat.. and since you have put on how much muscle in the last 3 years??? thats why your sinking. Its not that you lost your ability to float.. you've gained more mass.
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Thats what I figured. I use to be a fatass mass of lipid cells, now I am a dense mass of muscle. When I jumped in, I went to the bottom like a brick.
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My roomates girlfriend broke up with him, and he couldn't handle the pain alone, so he moved back in with his parents. It was last minute, so I just opted to move into the dorms.
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Dah!
What do you think about that, moving into the dorms? Do you have a roommate(s)? |
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I have 3 roomates. I am getting along with all of them pretty well, but two already started fighting with each other. There are two white guys and two black guys, which could seem like a recipe for diseaster. One dude is pretty cool, we have been bullshitting some. We are both into lifting, so we had stuff in common right off the bat. It seems kind of funny, but he is like a black version of me.
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Does he have a crazy beard and look like a dangerous submission fighter lol?
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on the standing military, do you try and keep the legs out of it or is it more of a push press?
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Friday - 08/24/2007
Pull Day / 10-12 Range Chin-Ups: (2m RI) Set 1: BW x 12 Set 2: BW x 12 Set 3: BW x 12 Supine Rows: (2m RI) Set 1: BW x 12 Set 2: BW x 12 Set 3: BW x 12 Barbell Shrugs: (2m RI) Set 1: 405 x 25 Set 2: 450 x 25 Ez-Bar Curls: (2m RI) Set 1: 75 x 12 Set 2: 75 x 12 Set 3: 75 x 10 Hurt my back on the second set of shrugs. This is really getting old. I plan to see a doctor soon to have an MRI done. |

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I have a T, 1, and 2. I keep them in my car and use them while driving to work. My hands just suck.
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I do on shrugs. I have to. I can't hold onto more than 400lbs without straps. I have girly hand strength.
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Man what you talking about i have to use straps to whip my ass lol 400 is a good amount of weight.
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Just have your best friend do it, don't tell anyone.
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Holy flying fuck Kelju! You Dip the equivalent weight of me. That's fucking crazy. Absolutely outstanding.
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Thanks dude! The extra strength came with some extra love handles. I started a prop/tren cycle this week, so I am going on a hardcore cut. I think the AS well help me hold onto most of my muscle while I try to plow through another cut.
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Dips crazy! Tren and prop damn Kelju your gonna be crazy dense and lean! Strength will be even more amazing. Will you update on sides from the tren?
Dips crazy! Tren and prop damn Kelju your gonna be crazy dense and lean! Strength will be even more amazing. Will you update on sides from the tren? |
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Yep. I plan to be very detailed on this cycle. My last cycle went great, because I was better educated and was ready for the side effects. My Blood pressure is good right now from all of the running I have been doing.
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Oh yeah tren has very violent side effects compared to other AAS.
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Great job, man.
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This is 90% true. I seem to be lucky in the fact that tren doesn't cause but one side effect with me and that is blood pressure.
I have had no other complications other than connective tissue problems, and that was more my fault than the AS. |

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shit man, that is a ridiculous workout! squats at 405x3 not a PR?!...
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I seen the pictures of it, that is one nasty wound! sounds like a fun as hell game though!!
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ok,, so your leg hurt today.... tomorrow's leg day and you think it's going to heal????? Are you on drugs or what??
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Man those calve raises are just unreal i did like 135X16 lol. Hey hows the tren and prop going?
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Man those calve raises are just unreal i did like 135X16 lol. Hey hows the tren and prop going?
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