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Posted by: zip

Just wondering what everyones personal reasons for using are.

Posted by: TJ Cline

To get big and strong

Posted by: maniclion

Part of my gender reassignment.

Posted by: Pirate!

Generally, I enjoy the experience. It's exciting. At times, I feel great. Rapid gains are nice.

Posted by: bushroot

Maniclion, nice sig. Beasties...

Posted by: madmartigan

To look better, be stronger, get more pussy and be more able to defend myself if i got in a fight.

Posted by: zip

Anybody use them for compatition?

Posted by: largepkg

To get bigger, stronger, and faster. Period!

I've achieved all due to steroid use.

Posted by: Tha Don

because they are fun, i guess

Posted by: ZorroAzul

Madmartingan, you'll be sorely disappointed if you think bigger means "badder" in a fight...

I use them to achieve the look that I always wanted, and was never able to get naturally.

Being just how I want to be, I've noticed has increased expenentially my self-confidence, and this effect has spread into all areas of my life, both personal and professional.

Posted by: ultimo

the get "massive" ha ha na really to make me self look better

Posted by: The Monkey Man

I just want my body to be able to keep up with the kind
of training I put it through!

Posted by: BigPapaPump68

Its great when people are scared to death of you. Makes me feel good

Posted by: largepkg

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Originally Posted by BigPapaPump68

Its great when people are scared to death of you. Makes me feel good

Nobody is scared to death of you. You just think they are! This makes you look like a jackass.

Posted by: petrainer

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Originally Posted by zip

Just wondering what everyones personal reasons for using are.

Strickly for the side effects.

Posted by: kicka19

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Originally Posted by petrainer

Strickly for the side effects.

same, i do it for the gyno

Posted by: madmartigan

Zorro, I disagree with you there son... If I could have a fight with myself pre or post steroids, I would pick the pre steroid me. Surely a stronger, bigger, and heavier and more confident (as you claim you are) opponent would be "badder"? and a harder adversary.

If you think Im just some twat who likes fighting, you have got me wrong...
I don't like fighting.
what I actually said was it makes me more able to DEFEND myself, which is true if you think about it logically.
I have been in a number of drunken fights both pre and post weight training (never started any of them) , and I do much better now I have some bulk on me.

And If you argue with this I will kick your ass mofo! te he!

Posted by: largepkg

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Originally Posted by madmartigan

I have been in a number of drunken fights both pre and post weight training (never started any of them) , and I do much better now I have some bulk on me.

This says a lot! I've been around the block and I haven't been in a fight in 10 years. There are ways to avoid these situations and for what ever reason you're not.

Posted by: kicka19

steroids will not make you a better fighter, you are a moron to even think that

Posted by: madmartigan

perhaps there are less fights in the gay bars you frequent! te he only joking buddy.

I do try and avoid them, as i said i hate fighting.
I used to go out with a girl from Thailand and so many blokes used to take the piss and say "love you long time" etc. etc... and ask her how much for sucky sucky. I had a fight with two blokes simultaniously once over this and beat them both. Was I supposed to just let them disrespect (that whore)?

Other times its been people starting on my friends and I have had to jump in. Perhaps its different in the states? We could drink you boys under the table over here in the UK... unfortunately there is more agro as a result.

Im also better at beating up criples and children these days when im in a fit of roid rage. LOL (thats a joke)

Posted by: madmartigan

So kika, you are saying in hypothetical fight between two clones of me, one having put on 20 ibs of muscle and being able to bench 100k more than the non-steroid clone, It would be a draw?
With respect, you are speaking bollocks mate! The "roid" clone would be harder!
He could punch harder, wrestle the weaker clone easier and the weaker clone would be more scared of the bigger clone and perhaps run away, avoiding the clone fight completely. I would put money on the bigger clone being a better fighter.
I know the old "its not the size of the dog in the fight its the size of the fight in the dog" addage does have some truth, but both dogs would be harder if they did steroids.

Im not being a dick here, It just makes sense to me.
I dont do steroids for fighting!!!!!! But they help

Posted by: largepkg

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Originally Posted by madmartigan

perhaps there are less fights in the gay bars you frequent! te he only joking buddy.

I do try and avoid them, as i said i hate fighting.
I used to go out with a girl from Thailand and so many blokes used to take the piss and say "love you long time" etc. etc... and ask her how much for sucky sucky. I had a fight with two blokes simultaniously once over this and beat them both. Was I supposed to just let them disrespect (that whore)?

Very funny!

Other times its been people starting on my friends and I have had to jump in. Perhaps its different in the states? We could drink you boys under the table over here in the UK... unfortunately there is more agro as a result.

I'm also better at beating up criples and children these days when im in a fit of roid rage. LOL (thats a joke)

My point was the scene in which you travel will dictate the actions required. I chose not to travel in those scenes anymore. Been there done that, so to speak.

No disrespect, but as you get older you'll understand.

Posted by: madmartigan

I don't want to get old! I want to die young like a warrior having my juggular slashed by a broken pint glass! With my juice filled blood covering the streets.

I have never started a fight in my life! My point "which im sticking by" was that it makes me better able to defend myself.
If muscle doesn't make you harder then why do pro-wrestlers do steroids?

Posted by: adrenaline

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Originally Posted by madmartigan

To look better, be stronger, get more pussy and be more able to defend myself if i got in a fight.

That about sums it up. lol

Posted by: madmartigan

Is there a translation problem here between UK English and US English?

When I say DEFEND myself are you guys reading "makes me better able to ATTACK some poor bloke?"

Are you also going to have a go at me as I do judo for "Self Defence"?

Why is everyone getting on my back? Its not my primary reason for doing weights, its just a benefit from doing weights.

Posted by: madmartigan

Adrenaline: If you are also refering to "getting more pussy" as a bad reason to train... surely thats the prime motivator for any of "mans" actions.

Kicka: Calling someone a 'Moron' after making an incorrect inference to their statement, makes you the moron. No need to be so unpleasant pal.

Largepkg: I hear what you are saying my friend... but I enjoy the nightlife scene, being a young buck in the prime of life and wont be leaving it anytime soon. Unfortunately in the UK we are the biggest binge drinkers in the world... and drunken fights happen occasionally.

Ever see those old Charles Atlas adverts? with the puny guy having sand kicked in his face? Those adverts were very succesful showing that loads of people began weight training primarily for the reason of becoming more able to handle themselves in confrontations.

Posted by: largepkg

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Originally Posted by madmartigan

Largepkg: I hear what you are saying my friend... but I enjoy the nightlife scene, being a young buck in the prime of life and wont be leaving it anytime soon. Unfortunately in the UK we are the biggest binge drinkers in the world... and drunken fights happen occasionally.

MM, I completely understand what you're saying. Here's my issue and I'm not addressing you directly. I don't like the "I can kick your ass mentality". You have so many men these days who believe thats a sign of strength and end up getting into the AAS scene to increase their infinitely small perception of themselves.

Partner, when I was young I loved going out and getting hammered with friends. It's almost a right of passage. Have fun but be careful. You never know what awaits around the corner. What seems to be a simple fight can turn into much more. I hope you never have to deal with one of these situations but if you do your perception will change dramatically.

Enough of the preaching on my part!

Posted by: Tha Don

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Originally Posted by kicka19

steroids will not make you a better fighter, you are a moron to even think that

hmm, but they will make you stronger, faster, more aggressive, reduce fatigue etc etc, i guess you could call me a moron, plenty of fighters take steroids, i'm sure its nothing to do with making them a better fighter though is it? some coincidence huh!

Posted by: juggernaut

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Originally Posted by ZorroAzul

I use them to achieve the look that I always wanted, and was never able to get naturally.

this is the reason why I am contemplating using them. But I am very nervous because of the health ramifications and the way my family will percieve me.

I want to use, but dont want extravagant or insane looking gains that people will look at me and said he just did a cycle. I know this sound naive, but that sthe way I feel. Any others with this problem?

Posted by: madmartigan

If you use "mild" steroids i,e primobolan, deca, anavar etc. you are not going to get freaky huge on one cycle. These milder substances might also limit the probability of the side effects and health problems you worry about. Best advice would be to do a load of research on the topic and get clued up on dosages, types of steroids and if not already in order, diet and training.
Dont worry about family reactions... they see you so often that over the course of say 8 weeks they are not even going to notice you putting on a pound or so a week.
You might not even need steroids to achieve the look you want.
All the best mate.

P.S if your family pipe up after you do steroids you can use your new strength and power to beat the shit out of them!

LOL

Posted by: juggernaut

thanks for the boost.

Posted by: Steele20

if someone picked a fight with me, id just take out my butterfly nife and stab them... Don't care how many steriods you're on

Posted by: juggernaut

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Originally Posted by Steele20

if someone picked a fight with me, id just take out my butterfly nife and stab them... Don't care how many steriods you're on

wow. you're cool.
If he comes at you with a gun, WTF do you do then genius?

Posted by: kicka19

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Originally Posted by madmartigan

So kika, you are saying in hypothetical fight between two clones of me, one having put on 20 ibs of muscle and being able to bench 100k more than the non-steroid clone, It would be a draw?
With respect, you are speaking bollocks mate! The "roid" clone would be harder!
He could punch harder, wrestle the weaker clone easier and the weaker clone would be more scared of the bigger clone and perhaps run away, avoiding the clone fight completely. I would put money on the bigger clone being a better fighter.
I know the old "its not the size of the dog in the fight its the size of the fight in the dog" addage does have some truth, but both dogs would be harder if they did steroids.

Im not being a dick here, It just makes sense to me.
I dont do steroids for fighting!!!!!! But they help

take steroids to get bigger, take fighting classes to be a better fighter

Posted by: madmartigan

That makes sense, but you misunderstood my point.

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by kicka19

take steroids to get bigger, take fighting classes to be a better fighter

Exactly

that is why a tiny 6'4'' 230lb Boxer will always destroy a 6'4'' 320lb Bodybuilder in one round. The best guys to fight are the Bodybuilder types, they have no skill and think punching power comes from big strong muscles.

Posted by: largepkg

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Exactly

I completely agree with you as long as they're inside the ring. In a street fight all bets are off. I doubt the BB will just stand there and let the boxer tear him apart. If he's smart he'll take it to the ground.

Who knows who would win, it's just an observation.

Posted by: ZorroAzul

I've practiced combat martial arts for over 15 years, travelled in Asia extensively and lived in Tokyo for a couple of months.

many times in our Dojo we get new guys. Sometimes scary big, but even they are surprised how easily they get thrown around like a rag doll by the more experienced practitioners.

Between two untrained fighters, the stronger one will usually win a duke-it-out fight. But I never want to be in that, I do not want to "out-punch" anyone because that means I get punched too, just not as much!
Balance, timing and strike positioning mean everything. I'll admit it took a while to lose the "fear" to bigger dudes, but with practice you build confidence.( I am regular size, 6'1 200 lbs)

By the same token, I've met many tiny, puny, older men (mostly in Japan) who I would be terrified to ever have to fight, in fact i'd run away!!

And do not compare real fighting to "cage", UFC" "Pride" etc. that is not real fighting. On the street all bets are off. first of all it is usually never 1-on-1, chances are someone is intoxicated, friends, weapons (a bottle, even a key, or coins thrown in face), eye gouging, etc.etc....

like kicka said, steroids to get big, fighing classes to fight. I've never been in a fight, and I 'd like to ALWAYS keep it that way, remember the best fighter is the one who wins without drawing the sword.

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by largepkg

A big MMA guy whould rule in a street fight most of the time but a bodybuilder would get KO'd by any trained fighter quick.

Posted by: juggernaut

ok....heres the situation, remembering one thing: we live in really wacky world. Chuck Norris, Van Damme and the rest do know there stuff. But if I guy pulls a Craig Titus and goes postal, none of this martial arts stuff is going to make a damn bit of difference. Plus, if you got a gun, all bets are off. I have to see anyone except Superman outrun a bullet.

Posted by: ZorroAzul

Juggernaut, maybe you live in compton but where I am from not all fights end up in a shootout. In fact, none of them.

And if you think that a massive bodybuilder will beat a trained fighter you are so wrong! just watch TV and you will see the little men, with not so great looking bodies beating repeatedly the monster-size and ripped fighters.

Posted by: PWGriffin

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Exactly

What about a 230lb boxer vs a 320lb boxer?? That's the whole point MM was trying to make...given that all things are equal except size. Punching power doesn't all come from big muscles BUT....force= mass x acceleration. Heavy hands and strong legs make for a powerful striker.

How many trained fighters get into drunken bar fights downtown at 2 am?? Not that many. Why?? Because trained fighters are more calm, especially in tense situations, BECAUSE of their training, and they usually don't go looking for fights either...fear of confrontation is the first thing to go when you start training, this alone makes for a better fighter. My MMA instructor hasn't been in a fight (outside the ring) in over a decade either...and he bartends at a pretty rough bar on saturday nights and is all over the place the rest of the week.

I NEVER see the guys I train with out on the town...and rarely do I see the boxers that fight at the club I frequent.

Posted by: PWGriffin

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

ok....heres the situation, remembering one thing: we live in really wacky world. Chuck Norris, Van Damme and the rest do know there stuff. But if I guy pulls a Craig Titus and goes postal, none of this martial arts stuff is going to make a damn bit of difference. Plus, if you got a gun, all bets are off. I have to see anyone except Superman outrun a bullet.

If I'm within arms reach of a person with a gun and I got a knife....I win, as long as I see him pull it...My instructor wouldn't even need the knife.

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by PWGriffin

Many power punchers are not strong, punching skill and the ability to hit clean are of more worth than a big bench, squat ar deadlift,

Posted by: PWGriffin

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Many power punchers are not strong, punching skill and the ability to hit clean are of more worth than a big bench, squat ar deadlift,

Based on my own limited experience, I somewhat disagree....many of the fighters I've met and trained with are strong...just not BIG. Most who want to fight professionally train for functional strength or muscular endurance...not muscular hypertrophy.

Also a bigger guy has a MUCH greater advantage on the ground...breaking guard is ESPECIALLY easier if you have a big size advantage...I had to train with a huge motherfucker when I first started because we were both new and since we were new we did all jujitsu the first day and I couldn't even lock my legs around him...that and the fact that he could staple and pass my guard even easier because of this...getting into a dominant position was too easy.

This is why we have weight classes...

Posted by: TJ Cline

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Originally Posted by PWGriffin

Not really, just pure size is an advantage in the ring. You can't have a 5'5' guy fighting a 6'6'' guy in boxing...plus if your 200 and I'm 150 you can lean on me and push me around the entire fight wearing me down.....much more to fighting then just punching .

Plus punching a 200+ guy takes more out of you then punching a 150lb guy...just the weight of them makes you have to work harder if your small.

Posted by: juggernaut

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Originally Posted by ZorroAzul

Juggernaut, maybe you live in compton but where I am from not all fights end up in a shootout. In fact, none of them.

And if you think that a massive bodybuilder will beat a trained fighter you are so wrong! just watch TV and you will see the little men, with not so great looking bodies beating repeatedly the monster-size and ripped fighters.

I never said that a huge bodybuilder can or could beat the snot out of someone smaller. In fact, I didnt say that at all. All I said is that you can know martial arts etc, and be beaten by a little gun.

Posted by: ZorroAzul

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Originally Posted by PWGriffin

This is why we have weight classes...

There are no weight classes on the street. a guard (as in jiu-jitsu) only works on a tatami, 1-on1.

would you get in a guard at a bar??? not unless you like getting your head stepped on by your opponnents friends.

Again, do not confuses SPORT martial arts with COMBAT.

and never get in fights unless to defend your life or a loved one.

Posted by: PWGriffin

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Originally Posted by ZorroAzul

The original comment was that by being bigger than he normally would, he would fair better in a fight. Someone else brought up boxing and MMA.

No, I wouldn't purposely go into guard at a bar....I don't fight in bars anyway...but most fights whether on purpose or by accident, end up on the ground...IF I was to fall or get tackled and have to take guard I at least know how to A) not get mounted or B) just get up...it's not hard to get out of guard if ur guard hasn't been passed or broken...

And I agree about protecting urself or a loved one 100000% I don't exactly avoid confrontation but I usually never have a problem with somebody. I also go out alot and have gotten to know the bouncers, bartenders, and managers at the clubs in my area, so if somebody was to start something they would be thrown out immediately.

Posted by: PWGriffin

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

You're exactly right...but wouldn't this be the same in a street fight....pure size being an advantage?? It IS an advantage...but if someone is trained or knows how to fight then that is a greater advantage...I'm not disputing that.

Posted by: juggernaut

this is getting way too lame for me to go on with. Lets talk about something that matter:
Who can beat who: Batman or Aquaman?

Posted by: brollickby06

batman!

Posted by: FullGo

i use steroids simply because i can

Posted by: PWGriffin

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

this is getting way too lame for me to go on with. Lets talk about something that matter:
Who can beat who: Batman or Aquaman?

PrepTime Batman owns all in the comic book universe....even pre crisis superman...

But macguiver owns batman for free. He has accelerated prep time.

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