I didn't read the whole thing... did shiz ever actually himself bring up his money w/o any1 saying it first?

ofcourse not. shiz is not the problem.

Why???














I stole this thread idea from P-funk

True Story, his parents make 800k a year. He drives a new BMW his dad bought for him on his 16th birthday. You can catch on him MTV's reality show "My Super Sweet 16."

True story, he is a spoiled brat and at 19 he can only bench 205....pathetic

True story, he is a spoiled brat and at 19 he can only bench 205....pathetic

Actually i can bench 245 x 3 (never tested my 1RM .. dont need to and dont care)

and i can DB Bench 95 x 8

I'm stronger than i look. Honestly, you can say all you want. I mean you're the great one who can bench 800x1 right?

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what is wrong with his face?

He's amp-ing up for a session of half rep benching!

Who is rich?

lmao!!!

Money only gets you some power...just b/c your rich doesn't mean you are powerful....Steve Forbes tried it

George Seros tried it

For some people it worked

George Bush

Kennedy Family

Money only gets you some power...just b/c your rich doesn't mean you are powerful....Steve Forbes tried it

George Seros tried it

For some people it worked

George Bush

Kennedy Family

ofcourse not. shiz is not the problem.

I believe "True Story" fits well here.

I'm to poor to know how to enjoy that much money. I'd just whipe my ass with 20's and 50's all day and do drugs. Serioulsy, most rich people have so much time on their hands they turn to drugs. It's a pretty sad cycle.

The fact that they could try is power son

So would you say Al Sharpton is powerful

So would you say Al Sharpton is powerful

I haven't seen a positive post in this thread yet. What if a person actually went out and WORKED his ass off and EARNED a fortune? Shouldn't he be allowed to be proud of his accomplishments? Painters, scupters, actors, etc. get paid to show off their hard work, why shouldn't anyone else? True, there are ways some people do it that are rather disgusting but still, they earned the right to be proud of their accomplishments.

I haven't seen a positive post in this thread yet. What if a person actually went out and WORKED his ass off and EARNED a fortune? Shouldn't he be allowed to be proud of his accomplishments? Painters, scupters, actors, etc. get paid to show off their hard work, why shouldn't anyone else? True, there are ways some people do it that are rather disgusting but still, they earned the right to be proud of their accomplishments.

I haven't seen a positive post in this thread yet. What if a person actually went out and WORKED his ass off and EARNED a fortune? Shouldn't he be allowed to be proud of his accomplishments? Painters, scupters, actors, etc. get paid to show off their hard work, why shouldn't anyone else? True, there are ways some people do it that are rather disgusting but still, they earned the right to be proud of their accomplishments.

True Story, and this sucess story happens with about .0000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the population. That is hardly a majority that could complain about fair taxation and other economic matters.

True story, the sad fact is Americans buy into the bull shit dreram they cam become a big NBA star, or an Actor making 10 million per movie, or create some new invention in their garage and get one Billion dollars for it. Yes those things happen for .00000001% of the population....so what about the rest ???

True story, the sad fact is Americans buy into the bull shit dreram they cam become a big NBA star, or an Actor making 10 million per movie, or create some new invention in their garage and get one Billion dollars for it. Yes those things happen for .00000001% of the population....so what about the rest of us???

Think about it this way, how many times have you heard someone say that they wouldn't want to own a high-dollar car like a Ferrari? They say it because, deep down, they know the chances of them actually owning one are functionally zero, so it makes them feel better since they "dont' really want one."

Do something about it. Do you spend your nights doing some dumb ass thing like watching TV or are you working to better your position is life? So many people out there do shit to improve their lives and cry about life is unfair because someone else has it better.

I started life at the bottom of the lower class and I'm now solidly in the middle class and have plans to keep moving up. I've received no grants for schooling, no free money of any sort. I've simply worked hard.

When it comes to self-esteem, there are generally two types of people, those who better themselves and those who try to tear others down. Which do you think that you are?

This thread is not about you son and we are not talking about rising up a socal class, we are talking about the Rich . But I agree with your last paragraph, some people are born lucky, some work hard and some just bitch and go nowhere.

The thread is about rich people and their money. Quite a bit of hate for rich people is evident, so I'm pointing out why most people hate the rich.

What's with the "son" crap? I'm only 6 years younger than you.

Out of the many many rich people I have met I would say about 10% were good people....thus why I think most are scum.

What's with the "son" crap? I'm only 6 years younger than you.

I wouldn't want one. I put a higher value on the place that I live than on a conveyance. I know a ton of people who live in shitholes that drive Beamers, I would prefer to kick back in a nice house and drive a piece of shit, but I hate driving.

I do want to be rich, and don't fault someone who works for their money. One of my clients is very well off, and her family is normal and pretty much treats everyone on an equal playing field. I am not a big fan of people who inherit a fortune, but c'est la vie.

A lot of people here at IM don't care much for empirical studies, but I'm not one of them. The funny thing is that my dislike for most minorities is based on the same reason that you hate the rich.

My example assumed responsibly purchasing a car. Hell, if I really worked at it, and purchased a used one, I could afford a Ferrari. It would shoot the shit out of my budget though.

Very true. That's why I don't like how the US hands out free money to its own people and other countries, it teaches nothing but dependence.

Old proverb: Light a fire for a man and you'll keep him warm for a day. Light a man on fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

Not relevant, just funny.

I'm just not a big fan of excess in general, I think people waste money on too much shit. Even though I am not a big fan of the inherently wealthy, I would like to have a cushion for the future bastards that I breed to fall back on. Hopefully by that time the gov't won't be re-taxing me on the money I already made when I give it to them.

<Hilton sisters>

Rant over, time to hit the gym.

For every Elihu Smails there's an Al Czervik.

This hat must come with free soup...but it looks good on you.

Wow, you're responses show why none of you are truely wealthy. A good start would be to learn how to READ.

Wow, you're responses show why none of you are truely wealthy. A good start would be to learn how to READ.

#1 I made absolutey ZERO mention of how many people had done what I suggested. The only statement I made was that it HAD been done. The possibility IS there and some HAVE taken advantage of it.

#2 I did NOT say painters, sculpters or actors were the elite class. I merely stated that they get paid to show off their hard work and asked why you would begrudge that from anyone else?

Get off your damn high horses and start taking things at face value instead of filtering them through your preconceived prejudices.

P.S. I am by no means wealthy. I have not offered an opinion on the original question. I simply posed a question of my own.

,,,,,i learned how to read at 19 ,,,,and ill gaurentee i make at least 10 times more $$ than u make

So, how much do male prostitutes make these days?

,,,,,i learned how to read at 19 ,,,,and ill gaurentee i make at least 10 times more $$ than u make

,,,,,i learned how to read at 19 ,,,,and ill gaurentee i make at least 10 times more $$ than u make

Excuse me?

The reason that you've not seen any truly positive posts about rich people is simple: Only a small percentage of people are rich. Therefor, it's more likely that someone else is going to be rich, and for many people that's just not acceptable. Do you think that if you made any of the rich-hating schmucks in this thread wealthy that they would hate themselves? Hell no. They'd be happy for themselves.

Think about it this way, how many times have you heard someone say that they wouldn't want to own a high-dollar car like a Ferrari? They say it because, deep down, they know the chances of them actually owning one are functionally zero, so it makes them feel better since they "dont' really want one."

I don't hate rich people. I hate rich people who fucked over other people to get their money, and rich people who devote their lives to not much more than amassing a larger pile of money than they already have, which usually requires fucking other people over.

I also have no desire to be rich. I want to be comfortable, if I have children I want to be able to save up money to assist them in getting a higher education later in life, and I want to be able to help out my family and such if need be. I don't want more than that. I have no desire to be a millionaire. I think it might possibly change me negatively, and I don't want anything that it could afford me.

I find that many people just assume that all rich people are evil.

I want upper class, minimum, and I am not afraid to work for it, but I am also going to need the right opportunity to come along. I am no longer working in what my degree was and have decided that what I have been doing for the past 5 years is no longer acceptable.

Also, for about 40-60K you could have a car that goes 0-60 in 3.4 seconds, as opposed to the status symbol that is a 200-400K car. Just a thought...

A lot of people here at IM don't care much for empirical studies, but I'm not one of them. The funny thing is that my dislike for most minorities is based on the same reason that you hate the rich.

True

I need a translation on this, is it typical in Brazil for the person cleaning someone's shitter to be the boss?

And you don't find a problem in this?

Nope I agree with you on that one......but I have met some intelligent hardworking black people also so I try not to bash them all just because 60% of them are scum bags.

You've given me a lot of shit for my views, when you done quite the same with rich people.

You've given me a lot of shit for my views, when you done quite the same with rich people.

Rich people don't have shit to complain about. I would say that minorities at least have something to complain about, even though the race card is pulled entirely too much, racism does exist. Honestly, I see more racism between the minorities than being perpetuated by the honkies. Besides, what the fuck do rich people care if you like them or not?

My point was that he denounced a whole group of people due to his experiences and it's OK, while I've done the same and it's somehow not OK.

My point was that he denounced a whole group of people due to his experiences and it's OK, while I've done the same and it's somehow not OK.

Yes and they have had it so hard...with all the oppression and lynching....poor rich people, lets start an organization to help them.

Or the short version: My brain just exploded.

Oh, I thought you were just talking about using statistics.

My point isn't who, it's the what. It's the conclusions that we've both drawn.




That's not saying much.

Statistically, I'm less likely to be murdered by a rich person than a poor person.

I would say the stat is probably insignicant, though. Prolly like .36% to .38%. You are statistically more likely to be murdered by someone you know rather than someone you don't know, do you hold contempt for people you know?

On a side note, your feint using the murder statistic is the single best piece of debating I've seen on IM yet.

I told somebody here to shut the fuck up once.

A .36% to .38% range? Not even close. Being "rich" is too subjective to truly quantify, but it's factual that 3% of the people hold over 90% of the nations wealth. So it's quite unlikely that I'll be murdered by a rich person. Minorities (e.g. blacks and latinos) commit violent crimes way over their percentage of the population (per capita). The difference must be far more than a mere third of a percent.

The statistic of a family member or friend being the cause of my death may be high, but the odds of one committing such a crime are infinitesimally low. The odds of minority bringing down the living standard in my country are high.

On a side note, your feint using the murder statistic is the single best piece of debating I've seen on IM yet.

I try.

On a side note, of course you are more likely to be murdered by a minority when comapared to the rich folk if there are more minorities out there than rich folk. But, semantics aside, you are correct.

Last Friday I walked out of the University thru the Hospital. I walked out the door and past the valet parking area. I was walking and some big black dude ran into me, hard, and it seemed on purpose. I turned to say something, 5 or so people saw it and just kind of looked. As I turned, I saw a 6'2" 260lbs black guy wearing shit ass clothes, bling, and climbing into a brand new Suburban. First thought that ran thru my mind was that why would I want to get shot over something stupid like that. I felt bad I stereotyped him, but not bad enough to take the risk, given that it was high.

If it was a rich white guy of the same size, I definitely would have said something.

Say something next time...it doesn't have to be aggressive....like "excuse you".

When I ride the EL in Chicago, thuggish looking guys always try that shit...staring, trying to take the same seat intentionally just to test you....

I don't give a fuck...I'm appropriately assertive in any situation. Everytime they back off and seem surprised...surprised that you even looked him in the face and said something.

It's the guy that sits in the corner and doesn't speak... He's the one you have to watch out for.

Nothing scares a Black guy more than a big crazy white guy...........and yes I know that comment is racist.

how....seems more prejudice.

there's a difference.

What car would that be? Does it look as good a Ferrari? I not after the status symbol, I'm after a car that has a quick pickup and looks great.

prejudice is making an assumption or judgement before knowing all the detail--pre judging.

ex.1

You see sruffy looking dark complected man standing in the rain down the ally...you choose not to go down the ally.

You are judging that man has bad intent or isn't a pleasant person to be arround....maybe he's just a poor hippie with dreadlocks...jamaican style.

ex.2

Guy at the gym is jacked up beyond all belief...240lbs+ 6'1" @ 4% BF. He's a yeller during his reps too. You assume he's not a friendly guy and decide not to talk to him when he says "what's up".

I haven't seen a positive post in this thread yet. What if a person actually went out and WORKED his ass off and EARNED a fortune? Shouldn't he be allowed to be proud of his accomplishments? Painters, scupters, actors, etc. get paid to show off their hard work, why shouldn't anyone else? True, there are ways some people do it that are rather disgusting but still, they earned the right to be proud of their accomplishments.

So would you say Al Sharpton is powerful

He needs to be sent away to China for about a Billion years.

Let him go sell the Lord over in Pakistan for 6 or 8 months...

He'll come back Reverand-Cleric Muhammed Ali Sharpton

Nothing scares a Black guy more than a big crazy white guy...........and yes I know that comment is racist.

Say something next time...it doesn't have to be aggressive....like "excuse you".

When I ride the EL in Chicago, thuggish looking guys always try that shit...staring, trying to take the same seat intentionally just to test you....

I don't give a fuck...I'm appropriately assertive in any situation. Everytime they back off and seem surprised...surprised that you even looked him in the face and said something.

It's the guy that sits in the corner and doesn't speak... He's the one you have to watch out for.

The OP was not about how someone gets their money.

Nor is it about accomplishments.


It's about people and money.